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Title: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 10, 2009, 01:50:31 AM

Any thoughts on this...I never saw anything quite like this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mr_Video on December 10, 2009, 02:53:15 AM
people have been speculating that it's a Russian missile or rocket that went out of control .
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 10, 2009, 02:58:09 AM
Its a Stargate, Man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec8iquvSUNE
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 10, 2009, 03:02:40 AM
I have to admit that the bright spot on the hill looks suspiciously like a projection booth.  This could be a advanced scalar laser light show, 3D, you know.  Or that Bluebeam Project.  But what if it is something more?  what if it is some sort of portal, or stargate.  Who knows what the fork it is?

I dunno?

Blarg...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 10, 2009, 03:27:58 AM
i agree with z ..

a time tunnel

i think they poped through when the hole started getting big ..

neat looking huh?

if you notice when it started out it was a golden spiral ..

ist!
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: jadaro2600 on December 10, 2009, 04:09:29 AM
I want one!  so long as it wasn't made in Russia or China.

Anyway, I noticed that it was dusk, and the sun seems prevalent in the background..  I often watch the sun set, and take note of how upper level clouds change color, and even when the sun has gone down, the light strikes upper level clouds, usually turning them pink or orange.

I think we're seeing the sunlight hitting gasses from a failed rocket...

It could have been a spectacular success, ..if it were delivering gasses to kill everyone in Norway though.

It's quite impressive none the less...  there are similar videos out there, one is quite striking, it appears to be a white con trail which remains glowing for quite some time..

I wouldn't be surprised if the latter came from some ionic propulsion testing...

I just wonder why the trail remains lit for so long.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: MasterPlaster on December 10, 2009, 04:10:40 AM
Shucks. This was to be the start of the Blue beam display but the projector activation arm broke.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 10, 2009, 04:27:27 AM
Its a Stargate, Man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec8iquvSUNE
There was a video of it on American nightly news TV.  The spiral rotated and it was gaining altitude(rising) from left to right across the sky.

Now, what is it?  My Dad was an aerospace engineer.  Not a rocket.  I know what they look like when launched.

By definition:  a UFO.   :o   ??? 

RE-EDIT:
It was leaving a blue trail across the sky.  That implies it's a spacecraft/high altitude CIA craft/Nazi-inspired New World Odor type of UFO???   :P   ;D

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 10, 2009, 05:22:17 AM
Its a Stargate, Man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec8iquvSUNE

looks like tesla's pan cake coil  ;D
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 10, 2009, 12:57:37 PM

This smacks of human involvement.

Or else with the light show being active for as long as it was, the local military would have scrambled a fighter or 8 to the top of the mountain to investigate the visibly obvious source.

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 10, 2009, 01:10:50 PM
This smacks of human involvement.
Blossom says use your heart to discern the truth.  As much as I want this to be an interdimensional gateway which signals the beginning of the Golden Age, I don't think it is...

Project Bluebeam, and if not that then it is something analogous to industrial laser light show where they use scalar methodology to produce a 3 dimensional images.  There are some views of the object, or vortex, which seem symmetrical, but the view in the picture I posted above we see the white spiral in the x/y plane is pointed directly towards the viewer.  The blue spiral has a funny vector that is not aligned with the white spiral.  It seems to be drawn on a 2 dimension plane trying to simulate a 3 dimensional object.  Artistic perspective, if you draw you know what this is.  It is very hard to do realistic perspectives on a 2 dimensional plane.  Some views of this object seem correct in their perspective, but others don't, so that leads me to think this was shopped...

But, if it really is an interdimensional gateway, I'll take that...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: nomoegas on December 10, 2009, 02:26:10 PM
If this was a pre-weapons test, looks like they defiantly made  some high tech advancements. Also thought it was strange to see it rewind it self as this  event was drawing to a close..
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: jikwan on December 10, 2009, 05:59:13 PM
big bullshllt explination right here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8406633.stm
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 06:05:37 PM
big bullshllt explination right here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8406633.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8406633.stm)

That explanation is about as good as the good old swamp gas one.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 10, 2009, 06:16:02 PM
this is really something too

IS

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 06:28:45 PM
Looks like the classical Unarian vortex,

http://www.unarius.us/plasma/c_plasma_field.html (http://www.unarius.us/plasma/c_plasma_field.html)
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 10, 2009, 06:37:02 PM
Blossom says use your heart to discern the truth.  As much as I want this to be an interdimensional gateway which signals the beginning of the Golden Age, I don't think it is...


But, if it really is an interdimensional gateway, I'll take that...

i think your correct it is the GOLDEN AGE..

weather human done or godly done ... it has been done ... 

i did not do it !   

they want to call this magic ... in fact it is not .. 

w815
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mr_Video on December 10, 2009, 07:25:17 PM
people have been speculating that it's a Russian missile or rocket that went out of control .

Confirmed (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og_finnmark/1.6904061&sl=no&tl=en)
it was indeed a Russian missile that malfunctioned .
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 10, 2009, 07:29:37 PM
Confirmed (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og_finnmark/1.6904061&sl=no&tl=en)
it was indeed a Russian missile that malfunctioned .

lol

what ever be the cause ...  sure points to this ...

dont it ... lol

ist!
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 07:39:32 PM
Confirmed (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og_finnmark/1.6904061&sl=no&tl=en)
it was indeed a Russian missile that malfunctioned .

I would suggest taking a look at the videos because that was no missile.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 10, 2009, 07:57:15 PM
I would suggest taking a look at the videos because that was no missile.
I agree, not a missile...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 10, 2009, 08:57:04 PM

Relax everybody...according to government 'scientists', it turns out its just another feature of 'Climate Change'.

Move along now...nothing to see here.

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Golden Mean on December 10, 2009, 09:00:55 PM
Greetings all...

I put together a photo montage video yesterday of every photo I could find on the internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIg5eczY5Ms

Enjoy!

Peace,
 ~ Golden Mean
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Groundloop on December 10, 2009, 09:02:10 PM
Looks like a rocket exhaust trail to me.

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/111033-bulava_spiral-0
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 10, 2009, 09:04:30 PM
I think it looks like the Time Vortex that the USS Nimitz sailed through in the movie "The Final Coundown"...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 09:28:02 PM
Maybe it's the ET's celebrating the dawn of Global Free Energy, compliments of Steorn.

Paul
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
Looks like a rocket exhaust trail to me.

Yeah, I can really see that swirling white vortex that's not moving away at a high speed that floats there rotating for minutes as seen in the video.  ;)   Not!
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Groundloop on December 10, 2009, 09:39:57 PM
@PaulLowrance,

It was a third stage malfunction on a new Russian Bulava intercontinental missile.

Groundloop.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mr_Video on December 10, 2009, 09:44:45 PM
I would suggest taking a look at the videos because that was no missile.

I did, and it looked exactly like a rocket/missile with 1 bad engine tumbling & spinning end over end, in the upper atmosphere .
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 10, 2009, 09:44:57 PM
It was a third stage malfunction on a new Russian Bulava intercontinental missile.
Some of my friends and I were discussing the mainstream
media story of a missile gone awry, this is my rebuttal..

Yes, a missile can spiral when it is out of balance.
And I have seen the rocket garden bloopers where a
rockets fail in a spectacular way. This is different.
First of all, where is the rocket (missile)? I see
what could be a rocket plasma trail, but its not coming
out of a rocket, which I think would be clearly visible,
especially if it is out of control. They said the rocket
failed in its 3rd stage. It would be on the edge of space.
This portal seemed in close proximity to the ground,
and not on the edge of space. So when have you seen a
rocket fail in a symmetrical pattern, and leave perfectly
round concentric circles in the sky? I have seen solar
and lunar rainbows that are concentric circles.

Their pride will not let them say "I don't know". The
lack of an open and informed mind will not let them
acknowledge that this may be an event beyond their
comprehension. Much like a parent telling a child a
lie because they do not know themselves. They explain
it away with whatever seems plausible, in this case
trajectory failure. The rocket powered phallus failed...

I have a lot of reasons to hate the media. Like, they have
been lying to me my entire life. About Metatron, I don't
doubt him. People posing as him should know better. But
you cannot deny what your own heart told you. I felt
an intense emotional response when I saw the video. I don't
usually get emotional watching rockets fail.

At best it is still unknown...

Nuther Thing...
The Spiral unwound and opened leaving a dark opening in the
middle.  Watch the videos closely when you get home...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 09:55:22 PM
On top of the white rotating vortex there was the blue spiral.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Groundloop on December 10, 2009, 09:55:49 PM
@z.monkey,

I'm a firm supporter of free speech so It's fine with me whatever
people think or write.

Groundloop.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 10, 2009, 09:57:38 PM
OK, one more thing...
 
When we, here in the USA, spend millions, or billions
of dollars to develop a missile system it gets thoroughly
tested.  This includes filming the missile from many angles
for failure analysis in the event of failure.  I am sure
that the Russians are just as diligent.  They undoubtedly
filmed the missile simply for verifying the missile
was operating correctly and stayed on its trajectory.
I would be satisfied in calling it a missile failure
if I could see the manufacturers film of the missile
being launched up to the to point of failure where the
"atmospheric phenomena" was formed.
 
Without this, which I doubt we will get, its just unknown...
 
Looking forward to seeing what various spirit writers
have to say about it...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mr_Video on December 10, 2009, 10:08:21 PM

this is a simulated missile malfunction,
looks like the Norway event to me .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIrx2MT85s

be sure to look at the "updated" video too .


Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 10:14:13 PM
this is a simulated missile malfunction,
looks like the Norway event to me .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIrx2MT85s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIrx2MT85s)

be sure to look at the "updated" video too .

Couldn't help but notice how that video was just put up as if a response / cover-up for this video.

Can you explain why the rocket produce two different gas paths-- white & blue?

Paul
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 10:22:30 PM
Here's a real rocket missile,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y56qSfKmM3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y56qSfKmM3s)

Where's the bright glowing blue light trail, or is that Soviet new Alien technology secret?

Paul
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 10:29:20 PM
More real missiles,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVT6ZgpjPhI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyvhtxFqOis

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mr_Video on December 10, 2009, 10:47:02 PM
Couldn't help but notice how that video was just put up as if a response / cover-up for this video.

Can you explain why the rocket produce two different gas paths-- white & blue?

Paul


the blue was probably the normal rocket exhaust, and the white was most likely the un-burned fuel leaking out the side, and the spinning rocket caused the spiral effect .

More real missiles,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVT6ZgpjPhI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyvhtxFqOis

LOL !
the first one isn't a missile malfunctioning, just looks like a normal launch to me, and the second one I have seen before, it's a police dash cam in Edmonton Canada video of a meteor .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2aX-784sw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RGscgYb7tY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dan3wM3rns

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 11:03:20 PM

the blue was probably the normal rocket exhaust, and the white was most likely the un-burned fuel leaking out the side, and the spinning rocket caused the spiral effect .

"Probably" ?


LOL !
the first one isn't a missile malfunctioning

Ah, I see. So the magic blue only comes when the missile is "malfunctioning."  ;)



, just looks like a normal launch to me, and the second one I have seen before, it's a police dash cam in Edmonton Canada video of a meteor .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2aX-784sw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2aX-784sw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RGscgYb7tY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RGscgYb7tY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dan3wM3rns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dan3wM3rns)

No magic blue.


Let me know when you find a missile to gives off the stream of glowing blue and white. I'd like to see that once in my life. After seeing countless missiles, never once seen anything even remotely resembling what's seen in that video.
 
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mr_Video on December 10, 2009, 11:21:22 PM
"Probably" ?
you have a better explaination ?
based on physical laws and not wild speculation ?

Quote
Ah, I see. So the magic blue only comes when the missile is "malfunctioning."  ;)


No magic blue.
it's called light refraction with the oxygen rich (blue) lower atmosphere,
look it up .

Quote
Let me know when you find a missile to gives off the stream of glowing blue and white. I'd like to see that once in my life. After seeing countless missiles, never once seen anything even remotely resembling what's seen in that video.
not very likely to ever happen the exact same way again,
due to the time of day, the type of missile & the falure mode,
but then, since you have seen countless missiles, you should know that .

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 10, 2009, 11:35:18 PM
you have a better explaination ?
based on physical laws and not wild speculation ?

I have no interest in seeing how far we can stretch our imagination to explain away something with our present knowledge. ... Heaven forbid that it's something humanity in totality is unaware of.  ;)



it's called light refraction with the oxygen rich (blue) lower atmosphere,
look it up .

That's funny how other rockets don't show this. And yes, I'm fully aware of light refraction physics. Oxygen is a transparent gas given the thickness shown in the video. It could be 100% oxygen and you're not going to see it. It requires energetic photons or particles to cause that effect from oxygen.

Why don't you just get it out of the way and say it's swamp gas.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mr_Video on December 11, 2009, 12:06:36 AM
I have no interest in seeing how far we can stretch our imagination to explain away something with our present knowledge. ... Heaven forbid that it's something humanity in totality is unaware of.  ;)



That's funny how other rockets don't show this. And yes, I'm fully aware of light refraction physics. Oxygen is a transparent gas given the thickness shown in the video. It could be 100% oxygen and you're not going to see it. It requires energetic photons or particles to cause that effect from oxygen.

Why don't you just get it out of the way and say it's swamp gas.
I'm sorry that you don't have experience with the nearly infinite number of ways a rocket can fail under a nearly infinite number of weather/atmospheric conditions, how many identical car crashes have you seen in your life ?

If Oxygen were truly a transparent gas, then the sky would be pitch black at mid day, like it is on the moon, and not to mention that the sun was just below the horizon from the photographer's point of view, but the vapor trail was 4-10 miles up, in full sunlight .

if you wish to believe it was a UFO or E.T. then that's fine,
you all know my opinion, I'm done here .
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 12:18:00 AM
I'm sorry that you don't have experience with the nearly infinite number of ways a rocket can fail under a nearly infinite number of weather/atmospheric conditions

 It's not a matter of "ways."  You can look at oxygen any way you want and not see that magic blue glow shown in that video.
 
 

If Oxygen were truly a transparent gas, then the sky would be pitch black at mid day, like it is on the moon, and not to mention that the sun was just below the horizon from the photographer's point of view, but the vapor trail was 4-10 miles up, in full sunlight .

 Which is why my post said that it requires energetic photons or particles to cause oxygen to glow. Furthermore, if that's not enough for you, what you see in the day sky is caused by the atmosphere, which is a bit thicker than that swirl in the video.

 
 
if you wish to believe it was a UFO or E.T. then that's fine,
you all know my opinion, I'm done here .

 I was only asking for the evidence to explain this by conventional means since you claimed to have the answer. None was shown. I've done far too many numerical mathematical analysis using computer simulations to know that your explanation is invalid. If it's terrestrial, then it's some type of technology I'm unaware of.

Anyhow, no hard feelings.


Paul
 
 
 
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 11, 2009, 12:37:57 AM
OK, I'm gonna give it to you straight now...

This is a interdimensional gateway.  Actually dimension is the wrong word, density is the right one.  Its a interdensital gateway.  The gateway was opened from the 9th density, where Archangels live, in order to bring 9th density ships through to the 5th density to aid in our ascension process.  Most people and video equipment in the 3rd density are incapable of perceiving 5th density matter.  The 5th density ships can lower their nutational rate at will to allow the 5th density ships to be seen in the 3rd density.

Along with the ships was a burst of Love and Light from the 12th density.  The 12th density is the realm of Celestial Beings, or Celestials.  This is where humans originally came from.  We came down to the 3rd density to see what its like to live here and watch Dallas Cowboys football.  The burst of love and light energy from the 12th density is to accelerate our ascension into the 5th density.

OK, now ya know...

Copyright 2009 Z.Monkey
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 12:47:07 AM
Z.Monkey,

Your explanation is the best so far!

Paul
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: happyfunball on December 11, 2009, 12:53:36 AM
I find it quite odd that the camera operator makes no sound. Most people would freak out just a bit, if not a lot. It's certainly not related to any missile launch, assuming it's real.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 01:04:11 AM
I find it quite odd that the camera operator makes no sound. Most people would freak out just a bit, if not a lot. It's certainly not related to any missile launch, assuming it's real.

There are a lot of videos of this taken from different people. Some talk up a storm. Also this event lasted a long time relative to what's seen at youtube, so these videos are snapshots.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blue+light+Norway&search=Search

Paul
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 01:05:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPj2hGjE_fo

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 01:10:53 AM
You can a gauge of the diameter of the light. If it was a missile, then one would think these people would hear it. Also, I've never seen a missile that slow because it's difficult to see any change in it's size over time.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 11, 2009, 01:18:57 AM
OK, I'm gonna give it to you straight now...

This is a interdimensional gateway.  Actually dimension is the wrong word, density is the right one.  Its a interdensital gateway.  The gateway was opened from the 9th density, where Archangels live, in order to bring 9th density ships through to the 5th density to aid in our ascension process.  Most people and video equipment in the 3rd density are incapable of perceiving 5th density matter.  The 5th density ships can lower their nutational rate at will to allow the 5th density ships to be seen in the 3rd density.

Along with the ships was a burst of Love and Light from the 12th density.  The 12th density is the realm of Celestial Beings, or Celestials.  This is where humans originally came from.  We can down to the 3rd density to see what its like to live here and watch Dallas Cowboys football.  The burst of love and light energy from the 12th density is to accelerate our ascension into the 5th density.

OK, now ya know...

Copyright 2009 Z.Monkey

love ya bro!

peace love all life ... 

w815
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 11, 2009, 01:32:25 AM
peace love all life ... 
\m/ :D\m/  Rox...
Goodwill to All, for All is One...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 11, 2009, 01:36:06 AM
Why don't you just get it out of the way and say it's swamp gas.
It might be a weather balloon...
I've seen a few weather balloons in my time...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 11, 2009, 01:42:43 AM
There was a video of it on American nightly news TV.  The spiral rotated and it was gaining altitude(rising) from left to right across the sky.
Now, what is it?  My Dad was an aerospace engineer.  Not a rocket.  I know what they look like when launched.
By definition:  a UFO.   :o   ??? 
RE-EDIT:
RE_RE-EDIT:
It was leaving a blue trail across the sky.
Because it was blue, was is an ion plume?  They're usually blue in the atmosphere.  The edge is riffled, like turbulence left behind by an exhaust plume.  Is it some kind  of ship propelled by a powerful ion/plasma based engine?  No officially recognized earth government has technology that advanced.
And, as stated elsewhere on this thread, the Americans and Norwegians didn't---couldn't or wouldn't---intercept it with jets.

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 11, 2009, 01:55:21 AM
Greetings all...

I put together a photo montage video yesterday of every photo I could find on the internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIg5eczY5Ms

Enjoy!

Peace,
 ~ Golden Mean

OMG... OMG

great work ...  i just realized what this  is ... omg omg ...


smile world ... 

i think i know what happened here .... :0  if this is what i think it is and for some reason im thinking it ...  omg....  is all i can say ...

ill take the blame !

im sorry ...  btw  expect some more ..... 

im not doint any more of those for now...  i never in my life would have thought i could have done this altho i think i have ...  and not how you think ... omg ....
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 01:56:35 AM
It might be a weather balloon...
I've seen a few weather balloons in my time...

LMAO, nice. Or maybe it's a weather balloon filled with swamp gas.  :D
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 02:01:37 AM
Have you noticed how the blue spiral gets narrower and sharper as it's farther away from the spiraling white vortex? There's no possible way it could be a missile or rocket.

In a missile, the gases that are farther away from it are older, and will spread out more.

In this norway incident, the glowing blue spiral focuses in on a location. You can even see the blue spiral beam becomes brighter away from the while vortex.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 11, 2009, 02:04:11 AM
btw a little while ago i sent out a few super concentrated engery balls ... 

and if this is the result   yikes ... 


ist!

the kids said i was back on the first ship ...  they didnt say i brought my powers with me o my

yikes

ALI told me ... she said "daddy horsey ride cow ride  plane ride dragon ride ....  "    i saw a dragon in your video GOLDEN MEAN! 

wow!

she didnt say it would happin all in 6 months .... OMG ALI!

if i some how did do this with my abilitys ... thats kinda scary ... for me ...  omg ...  because i tell you if i did this it was with out anything phsyical aside me .. and my mind and my hands ... a little concentration invision a huge ball in your mind squish it togather and shove it out beond the speed of light .. i did all this i mention i also saw it as i did it in my mind with my eyes closed ...

hummmmm
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: ATT on December 11, 2009, 02:28:08 AM
I just don't know...maybe it's a cover-up...

http://features.csmonitor.com/globalnews/2009/12/10/norway-spiral-a-rocket-scientist-explains-the-mystery/
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 11, 2009, 02:40:58 AM
if this infact came from 12 d then there NO QUESTIONS...

ist!

if i did do this i can do it agin and agin...  if need be !

w815
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: happyfunball on December 11, 2009, 03:48:06 AM
I just don't know...maybe it's a cover-up...

http://features.csmonitor.com/globalnews/2009/12/10/norway-spiral-a-rocket-scientist-explains-the-mystery/

Seems about right. A missile.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 11, 2009, 12:40:28 PM

Whatever this was, it was a controlled event...too much hang time and vertical movement for an uncontrolled rocket or balloon.

Odd how whenever people start zeroing in on corrupt human enterprise (Climategate), weird things or catastrophic events seem to occur on cue.

Could be just another military psy-opps job to cause 'another' distraction, to stall for time...so that they can implement their global takeover with little or no opposition.

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 11, 2009, 09:25:11 PM
I just don't know...maybe it's a cover-up...
http://features.csmonitor.com/globalnews/2009/12/10/norway-spiral-a-rocket-scientist-explains-the-mystery/
It sure is a cover-up!
He, as a "scientist", says two 'motors' are firing at the same time and the thing still flies in a fairly straight line??  No, I don't think so!!  That spiral isn't a rocket contrail.

And aluminum oxide being sapphire-colored????  Al2O3 in rocket exhaust is white, and only white.  AND, it's a solid!!  It doesn't disappear like that plume did.

Bullsh1t!  He's stupid or lying!! Or both.

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 11, 2009, 09:42:01 PM
On top of that the blue spiral becomes more focused the farther away it is from the white spiraling object, which is the opposite of what it should be if it was gas / particles from a rocket / missile. It's impossible to be a rocket.

I've written countless simulations. That simulation is a joke. It may as well been created by Steven Spielberg, trying their best to make it look exactly like that photos. They must have spent some good time creating that simulation. IMO this proves there's a group that's trying to cover such incidents up. How sad!

Paul
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 11, 2009, 09:51:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBSxXwPnkpE&feature=PlayList&p=F24909B645868067&index=1


if this is 12D.....   

: )

im not wrong...

ist! 

what if HARP IS designed to recieve special broadcasts from a long distance ...  posible? 

hummm

i ask you all to look this with an open mind!

the reality of this in my life is more than a human will know ...   and ws&fm WILLIAM AND MICHAEL RING A BELL?

we call WEIRD SICENCE AND FRIGGIN MAGIC...  LMFAO ... 


i hope planet EARTH WAKES UP SOON!

what merlin and arther ...  ?  :0

btw ...  ALI IS AQUARIOUS

must be the season of the witch ... eh!....   

w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYQn8ewgWBI

; )
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 12, 2009, 01:23:50 AM
not to go off ... but here is SOME MORE NEVER SEEN B4 INFO ...

W

yes i do have quite a collection and lots of answers .. 

its TIME TO FIX THE RAINBOW CRYSTAL STAR SHIP!

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mk1 on December 12, 2009, 05:54:30 AM
A new one in Siberia from yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IFLH8GzQh4

Also funny http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/34975/2_UFOs_over_Kremlin_/

all at the same time.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: nitinnun on December 12, 2009, 09:26:01 AM

mr_video is deliberately lying.
his lies smell like diseased bull****,
to my painfully overactive brow chakra.




mark huber talked about this.
for now, i've chosen to adopt his opinion.



these spirals of LIGHT, of PHOTONS, were star gates.
star gates that can lead to and from more than one location.

these star gates activated,
because 5D or higher ships were coming through them,
to earth.

we could see the star gates, because their LIGHT came down to 3D.
the MAIN PART of the stargate,
which is up in 5d or higher,
did NOT come down to 3D.

so we could NOT see the main hardware of the star gate, that caused the energy.

the ships that came out of these star gates, did not come down to 3D.
so we could not see them, either.



the starships that came through,
belong to what amounts to the inter-galactic secret service.

they have decided that the illuminati,
have caused enough solar system threatening destruction,
and it is time for them to be removed from earth.

and placed onto a less technologically developed planet,
that is closer to the illuminati's current level of spiritual development.



on this new savage planet,
the illuminati will be able to
murder,
steal,
pillage,
lie,
r a p e,
destroy,
spread tyranny,
and be unjustifiably arrogant,
to their hearts content.

without a population,
possessed of ethics and common sense,
to prevent them from getting their way.

the down side,
is that the rest of the younger souls on the savage planet,
will be able to do the same to the illuminati.

because unlike the poor innocent sheep on this planet,
the creatures on the new savage planet,
DO NOT know how to behave like civilized human being.

they refuse to be controlled by anyone who cannot beat them into submission,
they stay within club-swinging range day and night,
to give them a physical consequence,
if they do not comply with the rules.



operation rich-bastard-removal started on december 9th,
and is supposed to be finished by december 12th.

before this removal, most of the illuminati had been removed.
and replaced with solid holograms,
that were remove controlled from a distance.
or with soul-less clones.

so that the remaining illuminati,
and the human population,
would not notice the disappearances,
freak out,
and do very lethal things.



all of the removed illuminati,
will likely be replaced by solid holograms.

until the remaining non-evil rich people,
can install the new, fair, sane socio-economic system.

so that when the truth is told to the reactionary masses,
any panic caused, will not scuttle the quality of life.
in the form of an economic implosion.



the illuminati purposely designed the system that we depend on for life,
to be extremely sensitive, to even the slightest loss of control.

because by doing so, the illuminati made sure that no one dared threaten their control.
because if their control was threatened, the fragile house of cards would come down.
and countless people would die.

nobody wanted to cause countless people to die.
so until now, nobody dared to threaten the system !



Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 12, 2009, 02:26:06 PM
A new one in Siberia from yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IFLH8GzQh4

Also funny http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/34975/2_UFOs_over_Kremlin_/

all at the same time.
Cool...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 12, 2009, 03:44:20 PM
A new one in Siberia from yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IFLH8GzQh4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IFLH8GzQh4)

Also funny http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/34975/2_UFOs_over_Kremlin_/ (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/34975/2_UFOs_over_Kremlin_/)

all at the same time.

That is awesome! If these videos are legit, and it appears to be so since various people are videoing these, then maybe they're telling us something, perhaps something big is about to happen?  What? Steorn = Global Free Energy???

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 12, 2009, 03:50:15 PM
What the heck is going on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua2Krhv_iNQ
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 12, 2009, 04:05:56 PM
Interdensital Gateway...
Ships...
 Rock On!
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 12, 2009, 04:09:52 PM
I JUST SENT MORE ...

I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO ... 

UNTIL I GET ACTION ... !

YOU ALL WILL SEE!

THANK YOU ...

w815H

the more i send the more that stand!  ....   

i never was alone ... silly humans....
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 12, 2009, 04:12:20 PM
I JUST SENT MORE ...

I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO ... 

UNTIL I GET ACTION ... !

YOU ALL WILL SEE!

THANK YOU ...

w815H

the more i send the more that stand!  ....   

i never was alone ... silly humans....

IST, you play an interesting role at this forum. ... psss, I know.  ;)


I'm glad there are serious ufologist out there who use science to analyze the data. I'm grateful to such serious people!
 
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 12, 2009, 04:14:26 PM
well yes far more than i orgionally bargined for !

how ever i will not back down!

w

i just knew the transpoertor was not fast enough .. so i did the star gate ...

speed always is power ..

BTW... lol  what is the other half of my HARMONIC TRANSFORMER ... anyways ....   LOL?
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 12, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
I THINK

what 1 must understand this is the I SCHOOL!  THANK YOU!

EACH and everyone that stay at this school for there term is under judgement! upon graduation..

there many levels under study at school ..  the silent ones are beond me in skills understand the curiculam and say few words ... this does not mean they stand over me ..

this is a SPECIAL PLACE!   and as such

SPECIAL MESURES WERE SET OUT!

THIS IS and WAS upon implementation ! LONG AGO 
AS SET FORTH!

W815H!
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 12, 2009, 05:26:51 PM
well yes far more than i orgionally bargined for !

how ever i will not back down!

w

i just knew the transpoertor was not fast enough .. so i did the star gate ...

speed always is power ..

BTW... lol  what is the other half of my HARMONIC TRANSFORMER ... anyways ....   LOL?

hey ist, i made a stargate too!!! ;)
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 12, 2009, 05:33:53 PM
lol

wonderful ... 

as long as all is RESPECTED ... ALL CAN BE USED!

THIS IM SURE OF!

and if that is not a joke will !   indeed it does look kool ..

the true reality is they are here ...  and they do infact go there ... some are turned off ! 

i dont know how all of it works ... im here to RELEARN IT WITH everyone.. as is MICHAEL  lol

william

THE hour is late ... and hu- mans sleep while the jungle is wide awake ... stand back and take your place .. make no mistake this is fate! and the events that unfold in this hour of late shall be nothing less than great! amazing displays of sight and sound .. shall rumble through EARTH GROUND!
H
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 13, 2009, 12:53:11 PM

And now China.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixLE3iuszbU&feature=player_embedded


Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: silverfish on December 13, 2009, 08:24:01 PM
And now China.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixLE3iuszbU&feature=player_embedded


Regards...

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=9035

The Norway spiral has such graphical perfection that one wonders about the Russian claim. One thing that occurred to me first is that this might have been a laser projection, but then seeing the China video with the spirals going clockwise, then anti-clockwise, it's really interesting. Could these be HAARP or longitudinal wave demonstrations, causing vortexes in the ether? And there is the proximity to Copenhagen. Was somebody trying to tell us something?
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 13, 2009, 09:28:11 PM
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=9035
...Could these be HAARP or longitudinal wave demonstrations, causing vortexes in the ether? And there is the proximity to Copenhagen. Was somebody trying to tell us something?
Can HAARP perform physical manifestations at all?  I hadn't heard it could.  If so, that by itself should be more than just merely *highly classified*, IMHO.

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 13, 2009, 10:10:47 PM

I'm still considering all the nefarious humanistic reasons for the "light show".

We know they are and have been working on hologram technology...so there is no way of knowing the source at this time.

We only know this is a technological phenomenon...the source and the message will come along presently I would expect...due to the other similar events elsewhere.

If destructive beams start emanating from these things, you can bet its a HAARP generated exercise of terror - to simulate an 'alien attack'.

If aliens were going to "attack", they would and could have done so long before now.

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mk1 on December 13, 2009, 10:24:07 PM
Have a watch http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35081/David_Wilcock_on_Norway_Spiral__DNA_Upgrade/

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35088/Pt_1_11__David_wilcock___Project_Camelot___Decembe/

All about the spiral
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cloxxki on December 13, 2009, 11:37:02 PM
So basically, it really was Gore's friends putting a part of Greenland in the Microwave? No scary rocket stuff ;-)
If ET's are holding things together while we try to mess it up, they might as well have come forward sooner. Or perhaps their laws say that if population still massively practices religion, it's not ready yet?
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 13, 2009, 11:46:00 PM
Viva La Science!

So much for the Interdensital Gateway...

Science, Its what's for dinner...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 14, 2009, 12:09:51 AM
Have a watch http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35081/David_Wilcock_on_Norway_Spiral__DNA_Upgrade/

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35088/Pt_1_11__David_wilcock___Project_Camelot___Decembe/

All about the spiral
All right, it may have been a HAARP projection.
However, they can't convince me they're trying to "save the world" with a "New World Order religion", as written on the first video above.

Nobody is going to get me the think that way.  I think the increasing numbers of earthquakes around the world is a serious sign something unusual is happening.  HAARP may or may not be involved.

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 14, 2009, 01:12:28 AM
The thing is, with so many unknown variables, we can only observe and speculate...and hope for the best

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 14, 2009, 01:23:30 AM
...and hope for the best
All is as it should be...
This is the kinder, gentler disclosure...
We gets lots of time to ponder...
Take a vacation...
Gel with The All, Man!
Celebrate the Holly Days...
Goodwill to All, for All is One...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 14, 2009, 01:26:56 AM

*awaits 'sky circle' artwork displays*

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: nitinnun on December 14, 2009, 03:29:06 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/12/10/norway.ufo.light/index.html


the russians said that they fired a missile, "on the same day".

the russians specifically REFUSED to admit a connection,
between their missile and the spiral of light.



if the russians refused to admit a connection between their beloved miss-eye-el,
and that spiral of light,
then why did the mainstream media JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS,
by saying that the spiral of light,
was caused by the missile ?



the media was ordered by their bosses,
to BBQ this scape goat,
for a public cookout.

to preserve the image of false, unchangable reality,
that has been brainwashed into the public mind,
through constant media reinforcement.


Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: ATT on December 14, 2009, 05:36:54 AM
the russians specifically REFUSED to admit a connection,
between their missile and the spiral of light.

That may have been, at the time, but now even PRAVDA says it was them...

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/10-12-2009/111033-bulava_spiral-0
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mysterious-ufo-spiral-in-norway-was-russian-rocket/story-e6frf7jo-1225809295640
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/12/another-russian-rocket-spiral-lights-up-the-sky/
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18262-strange-norway-spiral-was-an-outofcontrol-missile.html
.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 14, 2009, 04:30:32 PM
All right, it may have been a HAARP projection.
@all
Take a look at this:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=rhAtAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=orbit+propulsion+laser&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=orbit%20propulsion%20laser&f=false

HAARP, admittedly, isn't a laser-based system, but I expect the system to be programmable in frequency so as to be more useful in appplication(s).  What everyone saw may have been launched from, say, a submarine---Russian or American---and then had certain wavelengths of radiant energy frequencies applied to its surface from the outside?
The land-based nature of HAARP might lend itself admirably to this type of visual demonstration.  Besides, the UFO conspiracy theorists might have a *field day* trying to figure this whole thing out.
I'm just speculating, here.  I think we all are without accurate, unclassified information.

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: innovation_station on December 15, 2009, 04:12:38 AM
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.williamhenry.net/jh_comp3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.williamhenry.net/blog.html&usg=__XtEJz3TJZGDPBoB22AfedqrSDlo=&h=296&w=400&sz=38&hl=en&start=33&sig2=B-4GH8k4Zhyq1ZxnHrNAUw&itbs=1&tbnid=jioIrRQ4VvjFRM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbook%2Bof%2Blove%2Band%2Bthe%2Bgold%2Bring%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D18&ei=Rv0mS6m4LcK1lAem_Ni7DQ


what do ya think ?

lol

H :)
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: nitinnun on December 17, 2009, 11:05:45 AM


there is a 95% or greater chance,
that that spiral was INTENTIONALLY caused by SOMEONE.

it is too perfectly shaped, to be the result of accident.

so since we KNOW with all certainty that SOMEONE caused it,
than why did they cause it ?


if the spiral "was" caused by a HAARP facility,
than why would the use the facility this way ?

what benefit is a high spiral of light, too them ?
on something viewable by so many members of the slave-class ?



they intentionally did it at NIGHT, so that it would be VISIBLE for miles around.

if they wanted to make it less conspicuous,
than they easily could have fired it in the day time.
when the sunlight would have GREATLY reduced its visible range.



obama's nobel peace prize ceremony,
was in the same country,
about 24 hours after the spiral appeared.

it is no accident,
that the spiral was created,
in expectation of obama's ceremony.



is the supposide HAARP spiral a political statement,
regarding obama ?

how could the spiral NOT involve obama,
when the ceremony was literally in the same area,
the next day ?


Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 17, 2009, 11:18:54 AM

there is a 95% or greater chance,
that that spiral was INTENTIONALLY caused by SOMEONE.

it is too perfectly shaped, to be the result of accident.

so since we KNOW with all certainty that SOMEONE caused it,
than why did they cause it ?


if the spiral "was" caused by a HAARP facility,
than why would the use the facility this way ?

what benefit is a high spiral of light, too them ?
on something viewable by so many members of the slave-class ?



they intentionally did it at NIGHT, so that it would be VISIBLE for miles around.

if they wanted to make it less conspicuous,
than they easily could have fired it in the day time.
when the sunlight would have GREATLY reduced its visible range.



obama's nobel peace prize ceremony,
was in the same country,
about 24 hours after the spiral appeared.

it is no accident,
that the spiral was created,
in expectation of obama's ceremony.



is the supposide HAARP spiral a political statement,
regarding obama ?

how could the spiral NOT involve obama,
when the ceremony was literally in the same area,
the next day ?

I think it was confirmed by the Russians, it was a bad missile drill, the attitude adjuster on the test missile was defective, it caused the missile to spiral out of control into a Archimedes spiral.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: nitinnun on December 17, 2009, 11:31:33 AM

a "defective" missile could not have created something that perfect.

the only way a missile could have caused that level of perfection,
is if the missile were DESIGNED to create it on purpose.

which leads back to my main point.
that the spiral was INTENTIONALLY created.



not that a missiles emission trail would have had enough energy,
to create that much light,
which hung in the air that long,
without scattering through out the atmosphere,
thus losing its PERFECT shape.



and when the spiral disappeared in the video,
the spiral "wound down" like CLOCKWORK.

it disappeared from the center, outwards.
like a water droplet landing on a still surface of water.

creating a wave from center on outwards.



the mainstream explanation,
is a steaming pile of swamp gas canisters.

anyone who believes the mainstream news explanation,
is either vastly uninformed,
is willfully ignorant,
doesn't "want" to think,
doesn't "know how" to think,
or any combination of the above.


Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 17, 2009, 11:38:48 AM
a "defective" missile could not have created something that perfect.

the only way a missile could have caused that level of perfection,
is if the missile were DESIGNED to create it on purpose.

which leads back to my main point.
that the spiral was INTENTIONALLY created.



not that a missiles emission trail would have had enough energy,
to create that much light,
which hung in the air that long,
without scattering through out the atmosphere,
thus losing its PERFECT shape.



and when the spiral disappeared in the video,
the spiral "wound down" like CLOCKWORK.

it disappeared from the center, outwards.
like a water droplet landing on a still surface of water.

creating a wave from center on outwards.



the mainstream explanation,
is a steaming pile of swamp gas canisters.

anyone who believes the mainstream news explanation,
is either vastly uninformed,
is willfully ignorant,
doesn't "want" to think,
doesn't "know how" to think,
or any combination of the above.

no, the attitude adjuster was stuck into a specific angle, the Missile physics is pretty much correct, it would of done what you see. it could be replicated using a standard model rocket that had RC control.

the contrail of the missile is dependent on how the weather was in higher altitudes and the density of the rocket fuel vapor compared to the density of air as well.



nothing spooky here.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 17, 2009, 12:57:42 PM

The "Russian" explanation flew out the window...along with their credibility, when their first reaction was 'it wasn't us'.

Only later they "remembered" their malfunctioning missile.

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: z.monkey on December 17, 2009, 02:05:32 PM
I thought we had already determined that this was a HAARP event...

I does look like there is a projector on the hill...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: sparks on December 17, 2009, 03:04:52 PM
The blue light is an indication of electron speed surpassing
the speed of light through a refractive medium. 

Somebody somewhere has figured out how to ionize air in
a directed beam.  This is accomplished with high voltage
and high frequency.  The ionized gas can be manipulated
to form a plasma.  The plasma electrons are not held in
atomic neuclei dictated orbitals but are quite free and easily accelerated.  This creates a wire that can be a couple of
feet long or a number of light years long.  An accelerating
force on one end of the wire is transmitted by the electrons
in a collisionless electric current.  Amperage is equal to e
divided by r.  When resistance approaches zero amperage
increases to infinity.  Plasma weapons are a reality. 
Why not plasma light shows just to let the new president
know who has the tech.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: silverfish on December 17, 2009, 04:48:25 PM
Can HAARP perform physical manifestations at all?  I hadn't heard it could.  If so, that by itself should be more than just merely *highly classified*, IMHO.

--Lee

Good point - although we aren't privy to what HAARP is truly capable of, because we're not told. Thomas Bearden talks about longitudinal scalar weather manipulation, Project Blue Beam, a holographic projection, is another of several possibilities, it seems to me. I find it difficult to fathom that a missile could have caused this precise geometric manifestation. The first thing that occurred to me is that it was being laser-projected from the hill, but then the beam projection itself seems to have a 3d spiral within it? unless this is being projected downwards towards the hill, as commentators describe the blue spiral beam coming out from the center.
     Stewart Swerdlow has some interesting comments on Blue Beam in the redicecreations.com archives - and then there is the China spiral video. A recent article on this site talks about the Hessdalan light phenomena in a Norway valley still ongoing. So UFO phenomena can't be ruled out either, and that encompasses
a) natural phenomena, misunderstood or misidentified b) geophysical or piezoelectric 'earth lights' phenomena c) interdimensional or extraterrestrial activity.

This coincides with the Copenhagen summit? hmm.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: silverfish on December 17, 2009, 04:59:29 PM
Good point - although we aren't privy to what HAARP is truly capable of, because we're not told. Thomas Bearden talks about longitudinal scalar weather manipulation, Project Blue Beam, a holographic projection, is another of several possibilities, it seems to me. I find it difficult to fathom that a missile could have caused this precise geometric manifestation. The first thing that occurred to me is that it was being laser-projected from the hill, but then the beam projection itself seems to have a 3d spiral within it? unless this is being projected downwards towards the hill, as commentators describe the blue spiral beam coming out from the center.
     Stewart Swerdlow has some interesting comments on Blue Beam in the redicecreations.com archives - and then there is the China spiral video. A recent article on this site talks about the Hessdalan light phenomena in a Norway valley still ongoing. So UFO phenomena can't be ruled out either, and that encompasses
a) natural phenomena, misunderstood or misidentified b) geophysical or piezoelectric 'earth lights' phenomena c) interdimensional or extraterrestrial activity.

This coincides with the Copenhagen summit? hmm.

One more thing, there is an 'cone' or an envelope of light in the image that encompasses both spirals, and the apex of the cone points back to that location on the hill, so I wonder what was going on there...
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mk1 on December 19, 2009, 09:54:41 PM
@all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj13M44oXOc&feature=player_embedded#

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/7024/Diamond_UFO_By_Columbia_Disaster_On_FOX_NEWS/
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: silverfish on December 20, 2009, 01:15:39 AM
@all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj13M44oXOc&feature=player_embedded#

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/7024/Diamond_UFO_By_Columbia_Disaster_On_FOX_NEWS/

The first video is very interesting, in view of the proximity to Silbury Hill. There have been many reports of golden orbs, 'amber gamblers' or 'earth lights' in the vicinity of ancient sites, such as Stone Henge, and numerous locations in Wiltshire. I would suggest reading Andrew Collin's 'The Circlemakers' to see how widespread this phenomenon is, and how it is frequently connected with crop circles.
       The UFO phenomena covers a broad spectrum and if you investigate this with an open mind, there are numerous possibilities:

1) misunderstood natural phenomena

2) electromagnetic or piezoelectric light manifestations related to granite faults in the earth's crust - read Paul Devereux's work and the Dragon project where he investigates the relationship between crustal faults, ultrasonic emissions from Stonehenge and other ancient stone sites, noting that dawn seems to coincide with peak activity - Andrew Collins wrote a fascinating book called Alien Energy where he attempted, and partially succeeded to replicate the work of Trevor James Constable who claimed to have taken infra-red photographs of energetic entities in the ionisphere. By conducting group meditations at ancient ceremonial sites with psychics, Collins was able to produce a number of similar photographs with anomalous dark ellipses after group meditations had been conducted - attempting to 'draw down' the 'site guardian' or whatever energies were present at these ancient sites. He drew a connection with Wilhelm Reich's 'orgone energy' to anomalously created crop circles and described how the layered structure of Silbury Hill had an interesting resemblance to Reich's orgone generator. He was able to demonstrate with various devices that background radiation, ultrasonic emissions and infra-red photography could all be influenced at these sites by what he called, 'non-local psycho-interactive processes'. I have personally witnessed two inexplicable globes of light at St. Michael's Mount, Penzance, Cornwall, which is said to be the tail end of a 'ley line' which goes right up to Rosslyn Chapel, south of Edinburgh. I later discovered that there had been numerous UFO sightings in the St. Michael's Mount location.

3) interdimensional or 'ultraterrestrial' activity, similar to the above, relating to entities with the ability to transcend both time and space;

4) extraterrestrial visitation, the so-called 'nuts and bolts' physical spacecraft - if you dismiss this prospect, try reading 'Cosmic Crashes' by Nick Redfern, which details the astonishing events which have occurred in the UK (never mind the rest of the world), and the lengths authorities have gone to cover them up; 'A Covert Agenda' by the same author; 'Above Top Secret' by Timothy Good, 'You can't tell the people' by Georgina Bruni, referring to her conversation with Margaret Thatcher, and 'Left of East Gate' by Larry Warren' also detailing the Rendlesham Forest incident, one of the most significant UFO events ever to occur in the UK.

5) Advanced technology using laser holograms to simulate UFO activity, religious visitations, etc., in psychological operations for propaganda or mind control purposes.

I'm open to all of the above. I find it interesting that the recent spiral event in Norway and a video of what appears to be a massive rotating tetrahedron over the Kremlin, took place on the same day - and there is also a fascinating video of a contra-rotating spiral formation in China.

Since this is seems to be a multifaceted and multidimensional phenomenon, taking many different forms, I believe a flexible, open mind is required. If we try to analyse what is going on only on a scientific level, in a rigid, compartmentalised way, I don't think we'll ever understand the totality of it. On a quantum level, what we call 'reality' could in fact be a super-hologram, where sub-atomic particles are energetic vortices in the ether. The 'consensus reality' could potentially change. An increase in UFO sightings in the early part of 2009 in the UK might be related to a mass shift in consciousness, albeit on a subliminal level. 
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: nitinnun on December 20, 2009, 02:55:58 AM


cutting edge 2000,
has a hidden motive.

he is going out of his way,
to discredit things.

in another post,
he admitted that he has family,
who are a part of the "illuminati".



my advice is not to ignore him.
but to expect him to go to great lengths,
to lie to you.


Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 20, 2009, 04:34:13 AM
the contrail of the missile is dependent on how the weather was in higher altitudes and the density of the rocket fuel vapor compared to the density of air as well.
@Jerry
Aerospace chemical engineering is one of my specialties.  Do you know what kind of fuel the Russian rocket used?  N2O4 and kerosene? N2H4?

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: gravityblock on December 20, 2009, 06:47:55 AM
.........
I'm open to all of the above. I find it interesting that the recent spiral event in Norway and a video of what appears to be a massive rotating tetrahedron over the Kremlin, took place on the same day - and there is also a fascinating video of a contra-rotating spiral formation in China.
...........

Contra-rotating spiral formation relative to what?  When looking at the front face of a clock, the hands will be moving CW, when looking at the back face of a clock, the hands will be moving CCW.  It all depends on what side of the spiral you are on, when filming it.  The spiral in Norway would look like it was contra-rotating to itself if it was filmed from both sides.

It's all about your frame of reference, thus relativity.  It doesn't mean the spiral formation in China was contra-rotating to the spiral formation in Norway.

GB
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 20, 2009, 07:35:40 AM
@Jerry
Aerospace chemical engineering is one of my specialties.  Do you know what kind of fuel the Russian rocket used?  N2O4 and kerosene? N2H4?

--Lee

Hi Lee.

all I know is the article assumes that it was a malfunctioning Bulava missile.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html

if we go to wiki and read about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulava_missile

we can get some data for investigation.

what we really need is some spectral analysis of the gases in real time, I am not sure if we could do this in a video but it may be possible.

from some of the videos I've seen with more frame work seems to suggest that the the missile started its elevation at the apex of the blue cork screw and as it reached a certain elevation it went into fail safe mode as it started jetting into a more concentric circle.

I am pretty certain it was a piece of junk Bulava missile because the documentation on this type missle has a lot of negative results, russia was having to many failures during tests of this system.

Jerry ;)
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 20, 2009, 08:17:09 AM

cutting edge 2000,
has a hidden motive.

Yes, I do have a motive, I am another James Randy and I can be a pitbull when it comes to people making uneducated or improper investigation into a subject that I know more about. I am a hard critic but I have tried to keep my critic level to a minimal.

I am a 30 year electrical and mechanical engineer with 2 years of chemistry college experience, I am a logical and analytically minded person, I tend to research things to death until I have my fill on the subject. my first original trade as a journeyman electrician was good when I was a kid, I studied computers and computer software programming as I began my Electrician trade, I became knowledgeable enough to begin my own computer business as a side job for 12 years.

Quote
he is going out of his way,
to discredit things.

of course, I am a critic, what would you expect, for the respect of the moderators here I keep my level of criticism to minimal when I see something that doesn't make 'logical' sense, I am one of those people that can totally ruin your magic act.

Quote
in another post,
he admitted that he has family,
who are a part of the "Illuminati".

I would appreciate that you do not slander my family any more or I will ask one of the moderators to spank you and send you to bed with a cookie!

Quote
my advice is not to ignore him.

gee, I hope not, people who listen tend to learn more.

Quote
but to expect him to go to great lengths,
to lie to you.

nitinnun, you are classic, I can sure say that about you.

Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 20, 2009, 05:00:35 PM
if we go to wiki and read about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulava_missile
we can get some data for investigation.
Hi Jerry,
I did see the site above.
Bulava uses solid fuel in all stages.
The spiral "rocket" had its exhaust plume disappear completely by dissipation.  There was no Al2O3 in the exhaust, or it would have left a smoke trail across the sky.  The Space Shuttle does leave a smoke trail of aluminum oxide.

Do you know for sure that Bulava uses aluminum in its fuel?  Does anyone else?

--Lee

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 20, 2009, 05:35:45 PM
Hi Jerry,
I did see the site above.
Bulava uses solid fuel in all stages.
The spiral "rocket" had its exhaust plume disappear completely by dissipation.  There was no Al2O3 in the exhaust, or it would have left a smoke trail across the sky.  The Space Shuttle does leave a smoke trail of aluminum oxide.

Do you know for sure that Bulava uses aluminum in its fuel?  Does anyone else?

--Lee

all I know for sure is what the article stated;

taken from the article;

The Bulava missile was test-fired from the Dmitry Donskoi submarine in the White Sea early on Wednesday but failed at the third stage, say newspapers in Moscow today.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html#ixzz0aFOVIjRx

anything beyond that would just be empirical evidence unless Moscow decides to give out more information, maybe reading some Russian news papers within the those dates can give more info as well.

Jerry
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 20, 2009, 08:07:19 PM

To reiterate...the Russians first reaction was to deny any activity in the air.

This makes the Russians unreliable as a source of information.

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mk1 on December 21, 2009, 12:48:53 AM
@all

The black Pyramid is back , China this time

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35387/NEW_PYRAMID_UFO_OVER_CHINA/

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mk1 on December 21, 2009, 12:57:15 AM
@all

New movie from the spiral different angle !

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35388/The_LightPhenomen_In_Norway_NEW_ANGLE_Video_Clip/
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: MasterPlaster on December 21, 2009, 12:58:11 AM
Why would you want to test your missiles at night?
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 21, 2009, 03:12:40 AM
To reiterate...the Russians first reaction was to deny any activity in the air.
This is SOP(Standard Operating Procedure) for the Russians.  They probably lie to each other and hope they won't get caught.  The Kremlin, that is.
Quote
This makes the Russians unreliable as a source of information.
That goes without saying.  However, past American political administrations have been less than forthright with the truth as well.

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 21, 2009, 03:16:13 AM
@all
New movie from the spiral different angle !
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35388/The_LightPhenomen_In_Norway_NEW_ANGLE_Video_Clip/
It may be the "Net Nannie" on this computer, but the video shows me a blank white space where the screen should be.  I might try another computer later.  Has anyone else seen the blank screen?  Was the video deleted?

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 21, 2009, 05:25:47 PM
Bulava uses solid fuel in all stages.
The spiral "rocket" had its exhaust plume disappear completely by dissipation.

Do you know for sure that Bulava uses aluminum in its fuel?  Does anyone else?
Because of the small size of Bulava(30 metric tons; taken from readily available Internet sources), it would probably need to use aluminized solid rocket fuel to provide sufficient thrust to get the payload as far as was designed.  Aluminum oxide leaves a smoky trail in the air and it persists until random winds shear the plume apart and spread it over large areas in time.

The spiral exhaust had no aluminum in the exhaust, since it disappeared completely in a few seconds.  It wasn't a Russian or American rocket. 

Simple as that.

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: nitinnun on December 22, 2009, 12:01:14 AM

for the last time.
it is impossible for ANY missile, to create a spiral like that !

that spiral was ENERGY.
not missile exaust !

it took a vast amount of voltage and amperage to produce that spiral.
voltage and amperage that came from an on-ground source.

far too much voltage and amperage,
for any missile to produce,
from a power supply in its pay load.



the spiral was TOO PERFECT.
perfect, because it was an electron bath.
a photon shower.
a magnetism waterfall.

i don't know what advanced technology INTENTIONALLY created that spiral.
but i doubt the responsible technology could fit onto a missiles payload,
any more than the voltage and amperage needed to power it, could!



the elites lie like they do,
because they know that no matter how badly they lie,
there is enough idiots out there to believe them.

and enough closed-brained ego-cases,
willing to defend a laame inner-box theory,
than admit that they don't know what the cause is.


Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: silverfish on December 22, 2009, 05:55:43 PM
@all

The black Pyramid is back , China this time

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35387/NEW_PYRAMID_UFO_OVER_CHINA/

I get an advert and unrelated videos every time I click on this, but I take your word for it that there has been another 'event'. We have the Norway spiral, synchronous with the Copenhagen summit, we have the slowly rotating dark tetrahedron videoed over Red Square, and now this. It does not take an Einstein to figure out that this is a coordinated, deliberately planned event, and that the 'rocket theory' is nonsense, I agree with Nittinun that the spirals are way too perfect for the Norway event. The question that comes to mind, is it a) Blue Beam laser-holographic technology b) ETs c) HAARP d) isolated fakes, e) some kind of interdimensional activity taking place, reasons unknown. d) seems implausible due to the 'coincidental' synchronous nature of these events.

This is planned, coordinated activity. I'm open-minded as to what's causing it, unless someone can offer an explanation that truly makes sense.

The problem is with today's technology, UFO photographs and videos can be convincingly faked. I believe the technology is there to fake an alien invasion, should it be 'required'. Any type of illusion, really, can be provided to the 'useless eaters', (i.e. us) who are considered so dumb that we cannot distinguish between one illusion and another. Unfortunately, in many cases, this is true.

So what's really happening here?

Take a good look at the crop circle phenomenon in Wiltshire, and I mean a serious look. Become a member of cropcircleconnectors.com and read through all the research on the ground, not just the formations themselves, the associated light phenomena, the expanded and exploded nodes of the stalks, electromagnetic anomalies, and so on. Look at Nancy Talbott and Norman Levengood's research at BLT. Look at Nancy's research with the Dutch psychic who can not only predict where and when crop circles will appear, but can cause serious anomalies to appear on digital images taken in his presence. There is stuff going on here which is totally outside the scientific paradigm which we are supposed to be adhering to.

This is just another example of a window into another 'reality' which we have no idea about. It follows that if we are ignorant about one, we may also be ignorant about others.

When you stand back and look at this whole global warming scam - and that's what it is, a scam - the first thing that occurs to you is that the people behind it have absolute contempt for the intelligence and discernment of the public to see through their - increasingly obvious and blatant - lies.

What we need to do is first recognise that there are other realities apart from that which we have been lead to believe. Secondly, we need to start investigating these realities and thinking for ourselves. Thirdly, we need to identify the vested interests who wish to mould us into the type of reality that they wish to create - getting us to believe in their creations, using the various tools at their disposal - which are considerable, and well-funded. You need only to look at what we laughingly call the 'media' to understand this.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 22, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
@all
The black Pyramid is back , China this time
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35387/NEW_PYRAMID_UFO_OVER_CHINA/
I read in either a UFO/New Age/Alternative Press book or magazine:  The author of the information maintained that if you could see the UFO having a clearly distinct form and surface, it was made from human-engineered materials and processes.
If the surface was indistinct, it was made by off-world processes or otherwise interdimensional origins.

That was the gist I remember and it was so unusual, I never forgot it.  I admit the veracity of the information is still questionable in part or entirety.
It depends upon one's experience and perceptions.

--Lee
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 22, 2009, 10:00:51 PM

I heard a similar scene to the Norway event is described in the bible.

TechStuff would likely be one of the people here who may be familiar with that passage.

If thats the case, a 'chicken or the egg' question then arises.
 
Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mk1 on December 23, 2009, 11:24:59 PM
@all

First cloudy skies http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35687/r_Paranormal_Skies_open_above_Bulgaria/
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mk1 on December 23, 2009, 11:29:59 PM
I get an advert and unrelated videos every time I click on this, but I take your word for it that there has been another 'event'. We have the Norway spiral, synchronous with the Copenhagen summit, we have the slowly rotating dark tetrahedron videoed over Red Square, and now this. It does not take an Einstein to figure out that this is a coordinated, deliberately planned event, and that the 'rocket theory' is nonsense, I agree with Nittinun that the spirals are way too perfect for the Norway event. The question that comes to mind, is it a) Blue Beam laser-holographic technology b) ETs c) HAARP d) isolated fakes, e) some kind of interdimensional activity taking place, reasons unknown. d) seems implausible due to the 'coincidental' synchronous nature of these events.

This is planned, coordinated activity. I'm open-minded as to what's causing it, unless someone can offer an explanation that truly makes sense.

The problem is with today's technology, UFO photographs and videos can be convincingly faked. I believe the technology is there to fake an alien invasion, should it be 'required'. Any type of illusion, really, can be provided to the 'useless eaters', (i.e. us) who are considered so dumb that we cannot distinguish between one illusion and another. Unfortunately, in many cases, this is true.

So what's really happening here?

Take a good look at the crop circle phenomenon in Wiltshire, and I mean a serious look. Become a member of cropcircleconnectors.com and read through all the research on the ground, not just the formations themselves, the associated light phenomena, the expanded and exploded nodes of the stalks, electromagnetic anomalies, and so on. Look at Nancy Talbott and Norman Levengood's research at BLT. Look at Nancy's research with the Dutch psychic who can not only predict where and when crop circles will appear, but can cause serious anomalies to appear on digital images taken in his presence. There is stuff going on here which is totally outside the scientific paradigm which we are supposed to be adhering to.

This is just another example of a window into another 'reality' which we have no idea about. It follows that if we are ignorant about one, we may also be ignorant about others.

When you stand back and look at this whole global warming scam - and that's what it is, a scam - the first thing that occurs to you is that the people behind it have absolute contempt for the intelligence and discernment of the public to see through their - increasingly obvious and blatant - lies.

What we need to do is first recognise that there are other realities apart from that which we have been lead to believe. Secondly, we need to start investigating these realities and thinking for ourselves. Thirdly, we need to identify the vested interests who wish to mould us into the type of reality that they wish to create - getting us to believe in their creations, using the various tools at their disposal - which are considerable, and well-funded. You need only to look at what we laughingly call the 'media' to understand this.

here is one i have found on you tube , BTW i can still access the original link, you are not the first to have issue with that site (disclose.tv).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GPxHumkFdE
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Mk1 on December 23, 2009, 11:32:28 PM
It may be the "Net Nannie" on this computer, but the video shows me a blank white space where the screen should be.  I might try another computer later.  Has anyone else seen the blank screen?  Was the video deleted?

--Lee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwxibiKQJAk

Same here still works for me !
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: stprue on December 24, 2009, 12:01:11 AM
Sorry MK that is fake!!

 ;D ;D ;D ::)
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: stprue on December 24, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwxibiKQJAk

Same here still works for me !

Well its better then the other one but still ! come on now!
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: silverfish on December 24, 2009, 06:53:58 PM
Contra-rotating spiral formation relative to what?  When looking at the front face of a clock, the hands will be moving CW, when looking at the back face of a clock, the hands will be moving CCW.  It all depends on what side of the spiral you are on, when filming it.  The spiral in Norway would look like it was contra-rotating to itself if it was filmed from both sides.

It's all about your frame of reference, thus relativity.  It doesn't mean the spiral formation in China was contra-rotating to the spiral formation in Norway.

GB

That's not what I was implying. In the China video specifically, here is a clockwise spiral movement, immediately followed by a counter-clockwise movement in quick succession. I have no idea what this means.

Whether this relates to the spiral event in Norway, the rotating tetrahedron over Red Square, and now the recent triangular UFO reported over Cheshire, UK, don't know. But the synchronous nature of all these events occurring in the same time frame, and in two cases on the same date, that IS interesting,
especially when you have the Copenhagen summit going on at the same time. That's one reason why I don't buy the Russian rocket exhaust hypothesis, no matter how technically feasible it may appear on the surface, and convincing explanations have certainly been put forward.

Synchronicities should not be glossed over. They might be pointing to something we would be unwise to ignore.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 24, 2009, 08:04:07 PM

We cannot afford to rule anything out at this stage, and considering the technology involved.

They could be leading up to falling for someone like this guy...not saying this particular guy is a role player in 'The Game'...but using him as an example.

Watch the 2 videos on this site...

http://moneyteachers.org/Deadmanmusings4.htm


I'll know the truth when I hear it.

This is such a multi-layred convoluted lie they've spun...at this point only the truth is going to make real sense to me.

Regards...

Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Thaelin on December 25, 2009, 12:32:59 AM
   Should remember, this is the eve of 2010, they year we make contact.
Arthur said so in his movie. Or turn the skies into a giant screen via lasers.

On a good note, here in oregon, they recalled 800,000 doses of flu vaccine
for kids saying it was too weak. OK boss. NUK NUK NUK

thay
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Azorus on December 29, 2009, 12:01:13 PM
I've seen simulations of magnetic spirals look similar to this.  with the increase of earths magnetic polar movement, it is a long stretch, but it could be possible that this is a magnetic spiral emanating from earth magnetic movement.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 30, 2009, 10:12:21 AM
hi everyone good day  ;D

can we not do this using a special projectors?


well, its just a taught.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: sparks on December 30, 2009, 01:22:48 PM
    The ancient gravity control box when induced into oscillations by a sequence of verbal tones often called chants upon activation would create a fog about it as it extracted thermal energy from its surrounds.  Water vapor when it losses its heat condenses into fog.  This fog is a controllable cloud.  Any play of light then becomes visible as man is unable to actually see light.  Only it's reflections.  Somebody figured out that a selfconfined plasma had a negative specific heat.  The hotter or more energy confined withing the magnetically self pinching plasma the colder it appears.
If these critters create a monopole right here on Earth and convert all the heat energy that Earth has into a blackhole then its goodbye Earth.  Pole shifting willbe the least of our problems.
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: Magluvin on December 30, 2009, 01:43:20 PM
The video is very convincing compared to other notable phenomena. The blue trail has a curve to it, so a projector seems unlikely. I would like to see what is over that hill. A fouled rocket launch seems and is possible, but I see them here in Florida, and none of them look like this. Even the boosters separating has geometrical blow outs and trails that are startling and you wonder if it blew up or was a rocket at all. Is there any other news as to any investigations of the area?  Very strange sighting indeed.

Magluvin
Title: Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
Post by: sparks on December 30, 2009, 11:14:49 PM
  The conduit appears to be opening;  The question is who dialed the number.  And who is going to answer.