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shylo

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2280 on: May 06, 2016, 10:21:29 AM »
Hi MH, But what about the magnet rotor that is already inducing electron flow in the coil before we even discharge the cap?
artv

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2281 on: May 06, 2016, 12:52:21 PM »
Chet you are not even at the table, you are calling some new fake-ass nutcase that wants to suck money from gullible people.

I am blaming YOU. Johan, you should apologize to me and to everyone on this forum for your absolutely disgusting behaviour. You have some nerve posting that picture and trying to make a comparison to me. You are disgusting and you should apologize.

Some time again. Can you back up your remarks from here above, this about:

1- new:
2- fake-ass:
3- suck money from gullible people:

Regards, Johan

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2282 on: May 06, 2016, 02:01:01 PM »
Johan, that's a new fake-ass posting from you and I am still waiting for you to apologize to me and to everyone on this forum for your disgusting behaviour.

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2283 on: May 06, 2016, 02:02:19 PM »
Hi MH, But what about the magnet rotor that is already inducing electron flow in the coil before we even discharge the cap?
artv

Sorry, I am not really sure what you are talking about.

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2284 on: May 06, 2016, 02:11:08 PM »


   MH,
        thought it interesting to know MarkE's take on air tank.
 Can't do quotes, you'll have to look at Re Rosch that I posted
 earlier.
      Tinman struggles with fundamentals!
            John.

Yes I looked at MarkE's quote.  I think is very easy for people to overreact to the issue of drawing heat from the the atmosphere.  You have good old Aaron that says a heat pump is an over unity device.  On the other hand, the atmosphere and the ground represent a near-infinite source or sink of heat, a "heat ground" and if you can take advantage of it then why not go for it.

tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2285 on: May 06, 2016, 02:14:23 PM »
<<< With the capacitors,the missing energy is dissipated as heat--not lost to heat,and as radiation. >>>

That has got to be about the 500th inane and ridiculous reply from you.  Go see your doctor and get Thesaurus injections.

<<< How is your answer to your question coming along? >>>



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Fully answered in post #2372, unless you are really the scarecrow.

That is your answer to your coil question ?
This is it :o lol

Well it has now become very plain to see that you are the epic failure others claim you to be.
It is very clear that you had no right to judge EMJ and Wattsup--you are a total disaster MH.

I knew right from the start that you could not answer your own question--you are a fraud.


Brad

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2286 on: May 06, 2016, 02:34:08 PM »
That is your answer to your coil question ?
This is it :o lol

Well it has now become very plain to see that you are the epic failure others claim you to be.
It is very clear that you had no right to judge EMJ and Wattsup--you are a total disaster MH.

I knew right from the start that you could not answer your own question--you are a fraud.


Brad

No jackass, you're the fraud.  The people that are in the know, they know that I can easily answer it.  Many other readers of this forum know that I can answer it just from reading me.  You yourself even know that I can answer it.  It's only the fact that you have degenerated into a psycho Mr. Hyde that you persist in making a fool of yourself by pretending that I can't answer it while you inadvertently make a jackass spectacle of yourself.

You are a fraud, a bad actor on a stage.  It's ridiculous.  You are showing how screwed up you are in the head.

I asked people if they wanted to try to answer a question and they accepted the challenge.  You agreed to try the wineglass questions.  Nothing was forced on anybody.

And here you are like some pathetic clown jumping through hoops trying to force me to answer a question that I never wanted to ask, never agreed to answer, and I am not going to answer.

And behind all of this is the fact that you can't answer it, and that makes you mad.  Just like you couldn't answer the two wine glass questions.  And the ironic thing is that you are sitting in front of your computer and if you really wanted to answer it you could, just do the bloody work yourself.  You have gone six years on the bench playing with coils without understanding how a coil works, you may as well go for seven.

Stop this nonsense and if you want the answer figure it out for yourself or ask somebody else for a spoon-feeding session.

MileHigh

tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2287 on: May 06, 2016, 02:49:29 PM »


   MH,
        thought it interesting to know MarkE's take on air tank.
 Can't do quotes, you'll have to look at Re Rosch that I posted
 earlier.
      Tinman struggles with fundamentals!
            John.

Minnie struggles with finding the correct thread--but anyway.

Quote from MarkE : You need to take your experiment to the end.  Generate enough work to return to your starting state with even just a scintilla left over.  Then you will have something remarkable.  What your apparatus does is move energy.  Some of that energy moved is from the local atmosphere.  Such is the operation of a heat pump.  If you are intent on staying warm or trying to cool off, heat pumps can be very useful devices.  If you are intent on performing kinetic work, they don't help.  It seems that the only way that you will learn is to take your experiments to their logical conclusion where you compare useful work done.

I guessed you missed the rest of the experiment,where i did indeed show the system doing useful work without loss of energy.

If you find the correct thread,you may see where MarkE him self did the calculation's.
His reply to my results from the 5 venturi tests was this-->Brad . This makes no sense,as the calculated results equate to 110% efficiency.

The calculated results when the venturi was replaced with the air ram setup was 133% efficient.

The extra energy comes from the environment,and is drawn or pumped into the system via the stored energy in tank A at no loss.


Brad

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2288 on: May 06, 2016, 03:08:30 PM »
 author=MileHigh link=topic=8341.msg483150#msg483150 date=1462538048]
     


MileHigh


I stand by my claim MH--you cannot answer your own question.

You say the people you asked the question to,could not answer it,and you have been bellowing out this distorted victory in many threads,trying to drag there names through the mud.

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I asked people if they wanted to try to answer a question and they accepted the challenge.  You agreed to try the wineglass questions.  Nothing was forced on anybody.

Now all you have to do,is prove they were wrong by providing the correct answer--this is a scientific requirement when making a claim-->you claim they are wrong.

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No jackass, you're the fraud.

I see the bad language is returning MH ::)

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The people that are in the know, they know that I can easily answer it.  Many other readers of this forum know that I can answer it just from reading me.

Rubbish.
Anyone that has read this thread,will now know that your not all that.

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You yourself even know that I can answer it.

Another lie. How could you know what im thinking,or think.
The truth is,i know you cannot answer it correctly--feel free to prove me wrong--but you wont,because you cant.

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It's only the fact that you have degenerated into a psycho Mr. Hyde that you persist in making a fool of yourself by pretending that I can't answer it while you inadvertently make a jackass spectacle of yourself.

MH.
It is you that has had your knickers in a twist ever since i proved you wrong about resonant systems in and around the ICE,that improves both efficiency and performance of that engine.
I see the name calling is also increasing. ::)

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You are a fraud, a bad actor on a stage.  It's ridiculous.  You are showing how screwed up you are in the head.

You have that backwards MH. You are the fraud,and that is very clear now.

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And here you are like some pathetic clown jumping through hoops trying to force me to answer a question that I never wanted to ask, never agreed to answer, and I am not going to answer.

A question you never wanted to ask lol. What a load of rubbish MH. As soon as some one dose not agree with you,you start with your little MH quiz night question's,hoping you can catch them out,and make your self look great.
Well this time you have fallen into your own hole. It's not that you will not answer your own question,it's the fact that you cant.

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And behind all of this is the fact that you can't answer it, and that makes you mad.  Just like you couldn't answer the two wine glass questions.  And the ironic thing is that you are sitting in front of your computer and if you really wanted to answer it you could, just do the bloody work yourself.  You have gone six years on the bench playing with coils without understanding how a coil works, you may as well go for seven.

The fact is MH, i never stated that i could answer the question,but that dose not mean i cant.
The biggest fact here is that you cant answer the question your self--and that's a fact.

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Stop this nonsense and if you want the answer figure it out for yourself or ask somebody else for a spoon-feeding session.

Lol-Run Forrest-run.


Brad

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2289 on: May 06, 2016, 03:27:20 PM »
Brad,

Keep making a fool of yourself.  There are two differential equations and two integral equations that describe how capacitors and inductors work and I have discussed them literally hundreds of times.

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2290 on: May 06, 2016, 03:30:16 PM »
Mags,

Can the number of electrons transferred be directly equated to the end voltage?

The energy stored in a capacitor is proportional to the square of the voltage, so perhaps that is something throwing many people off.

minnie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2291 on: May 06, 2016, 05:28:33 PM »



  I think MarkE meant what he said "Brad,this makes no sense" he's inferring
  that it's nonsense.
  I may not be clever enough to insert a quote,I'm an old farmer but I can
  recognise a pile of s... when I see one.
  The commercial boys can get fifty odd percent and they're definitely not daft.
  With 133% you'll soon be raking in millions.
         John.

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2292 on: May 06, 2016, 11:16:43 PM »
Hmm.  Ok, maybe Im not conveying the issue well enough.  Will be back in a couple hours to see if I can make more sense of it for you guys.  I talked to a guy at work about this for about 5 min. He gets what Im saying. Lets see if we can do that here.

I see a new thread that is possibly almost on this subject. If so then maybe we can continue this there. Gunna look and gotta git for a bit.

Im not going to get into argument mode with this. Stress is not good for anybody. ;) Just a good, civil debate is all I want out of this. :)

Mags

tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2293 on: May 07, 2016, 12:54:47 AM »


  I think MarkE meant what he said "Brad,this makes no sense" he's inferring
  that it's nonsense.
  I may not be clever enough to insert a quote,I'm an old farmer but I can
  recognise a pile of s... when I see one.
  The commercial boys can get fifty odd percent and they're definitely not daft.
  With 133% you'll soon be raking in millions.
         John.

John

Why do you find it so hard to understand that energy can be drawn in from the environment. This is not some sort of !OU! event,this is every day science. How is it different than a solar panel producing a DC current from the energy of the sun.

As i said,i can easily show this,and it is replicable by most anyone here on this forum that has some degree of mechanical skill,and some simple tools.

It would seem that you have once again turned,only because of that you do not understand.
The venturi is a simple device that draws in environmental energy--nothing more,and when this energy is used to do work,it is returned right back where it came from.

Get MH to answer his own question correctly--the one he judged other forum members on,and i will re-assemble the device,and show you how it works.


Brad

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2294 on: May 07, 2016, 12:59:30 AM »
Brad,

Keep making a fool of yourself.  There are two differential equations and two integral equations that describe how capacitors and inductors work and I have discussed them literally hundreds of times.

MileHigh

Im not interested in your capacitors.
Im interested in you answering your own question about the ideal inductor meets an ideal voltage,

The only one making a fool of them self is you MH,as your attempt to avoid answering your own question shows exactly the type of person you are--a fraud.


Brad