Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Joule Thief 101  (Read 944522 times)

MileHigh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7600
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2010 on: April 17, 2016, 01:36:02 AM »
Like it or not, if Brad is having a meltdown because he is being given the straight goods, then he needs to have an un-meltdown soon.  Brad is going overboard and almost insane when trying to discuss things with me, and if you can't show some reasonable semblance of balance then it's all a joke and a farce.

Take the example of Brad insisting that you had to account for whether or not a car was on a hill to determine it's top speed.  Who here commented that that made no sense?  Not a single one of you.

Brad said this in posting #1987:  "It is also funny how you have used the term!compressed spring!,where a spring has very little stiffness,but a high value of elasticity--something to think about"

I asked if anybody wanted to correct him with respect to that statement and not a single one of you said anything.  Not a single one of you!

If any of you showed some balance and were willing to tell Brad when he was making incorrect, crazy or ridiculous statements beyond just myself and Minnie and occasionally Poynt, then perhaps he would not be in meltdown mode.  He is obsessively and compulsively telling me I am wrong and impugning my character and none of you have anything to say about it.  You are giving him free reign to run wild and go nearly nuts and saying nothing.

And so Brad got some push-back from me, and he had to get a lot more from me because almost none of you would step in and tell him when he was dead wrong and/or out of control.  I must have gone through a dozen or more completely out-of-kilter debates with Brad where he stuck to some ridiculous notion.  Like when he insisted that a Joule Thief was an RLC circuit when there isn't even a capacitor in the schematic.

I told Brad that I would state the truth as I see it on this thread only and I would not touch any of the development threads that he and Magluvin are on, but I would stand my ground for what is right on this thread.  And Brad keeps coming back to this thread and arguing stuff that is sometimes foolish and crazy.  I told him I would not fight over the definition of impedance with him, he could take that battle somewhere else.

There are two sides to this ridiculous drama and I am only hearing one side.  I don't even want the drama, why is Brad arguing with me about his new little transformer experiment?  There is a dedicated thread for that.  He can say whatever he wants to say on the build thread and I probably won't even read it.

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2011 on: April 17, 2016, 02:02:49 AM »
Miles
TinMen don't "Meltdown" so easily. [another attempt at a degrading innuendo on your part ].

As far as Johan Using that very offensive Man to show just how offensive he finds your Constant Holier than thou Karma stuff..
??
he wasn't comparing you to that Man ,just How offensive true believers in such might find a man who fills a whole Page with Bile and nasty in just two days worth of quotes above... yet try's to intimate no culpability in any of it.

Pure as the Purest Karma driven  Snow.

NOT.

Honestly

your "WhinyGlass" throw down , did Rub most the wrong way and intimated some higher level of understanding ..and along with your Constant Karma comments
A higher level of behavior...
Brad however claims to be a fire breathing heathen and never professed to hold himself to your alleged higher standards.


those alleged Mile High standards are why I get to point out your deficit's.[a brief 48 hours worth posted by Mags above.



you set the table

so you want to keep up The Karma Nasty for a few more weeks?

no Chillin ?








Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5884
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2012 on: April 17, 2016, 02:04:33 AM »
Chet:

No more straw man and if you can't show any balance what the hell is that?

Magluvin:

A good chunk of those statements are valid, but tough.  There is a bit of over-the-top stuff too.  But what I don't see you doing is doing exactly the same thing for Brad, and there are a of lot ripe pickings there too.  And so there is no balance there also, so what the hell is that?

HEY, that guy posted a picture of a serial s** offender of under-age children and compared that to me.  And you take issue with that quote?  Bow your head in shame.

And of course, you yourself are one of the worst ever people on this forum for bad bahaviour.

MileHigh


" But what I don't see you doing is doing exactly the same thing for Brad"

What? Beating him into submission, with an audience? How many days did you insult and badger him about resonance of an ICE, before you admitted you were wrong?? HOW MANY PAGES?? HOW MANY DAYS??? Go back and look at it! Or I can go back and post it ALL for you and your audience. ;) So now when you argue something you do not know about, until you do, the audience will now be wary of your knowledge, until it is proven you really knew or not. So maybe YOU better get off your ass and do some work bud!!! Screw your demands.


"HEY, that guy posted a picture of a serial s** offender of under-age children and compared that to me.  And you take issue with that quote?  Bow your head in shame."

Oh. So now YOU KNOW for sure the guy in the picture is a, what? A Serial  offender???? And you can show evidence of this???? Is what you are stating here ACTUAL FACT????   Or is it the fiction machine you have in that balloon on your shoulders??? ;) ;) ;) ;) DO IT! I DEMAND THAT YOU PROVE YOUR STATEMENT AS FACT!!!   lol  Ya cant. You presumed. A word you frequent with. You have imagination! And it shows quite often. ;) ;) ;)

"And of course, you yourself are one of the worst ever people on this forum for bad bahaviour."

Again? Oh really?   Go ahead and find the posts that show what you just stated??  Go ahead!!The trouble in doing that is most likely the argument would be with you. And the 'audience' that you direct to those posts you claim of me, will be able to read your posts along side of mine, and judge for themselves. lol  So go ahead. Find my potty mouth posts that dont exist. And then we will reminisce some of your gratuitous works. ;) ;) ;) ;)
 

Magluvin

MileHigh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7600
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2013 on: April 17, 2016, 02:11:18 AM »
Chet:

I will tell it to you again:  Brad and I argued about a "resonant Joule Thief."  Then we argued about resonance.  He willingly took up the challenge on the wine glass, and he failed to answer either question correctly.  The delay was pay-back for him being continuously rude and refusing to tell me where something he had posted was that was buried in the middle of a posting and not properly identified.  Brad took pleasure in refusing to tell me where the information was.

He insisted that my answers about the wine glass were wrong but he has since clammed up.  So if he stated perhaps 25-35 times that my answers were wrong, well he was wrong stating my answers were wrong and his answers themselves were wrong.  He willingly took up the challenge and it is not your place to say anything about that.

And so the drama goes on.

MileHigh

MileHigh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7600
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2014 on: April 17, 2016, 02:21:57 AM »

" But what I don't see you doing is doing exactly the same thing for Brad"

What? Beating him into submission, with an audience? How many days did you insult and badger him about resonance of an ICE, before you admitted you were wrong?? HOW MANY PAGES?? HOW MANY DAYS??? Go back and look at it! Or I can go back and post it ALL for you and your audience. ;) So now when you argue something you do not know about, until you do, the audience will now be wary of your knowledge, until it is proven you really knew or not. So maybe YOU better get off your ass and do some work bud!!! Screw your demands.


"HEY, that guy posted a picture of a serial s** offender of under-age children and compared that to me.  And you take issue with that quote?  Bow your head in shame."

Oh. So now YOU KNOW for sure the guy in the picture is a, what? A Serial  offender? ??? And you can show evidence of this? ??? Is what you are stating here ACTUAL FACT? ???   Or is it the fiction machine you have in that balloon on your shoulders??? ;) ;) ;) ;) DO IT! I DEMAND THAT YOU PROVE YOUR STATEMENT AS FACT!!!   lol  Ya cant. You presumed. A word you frequent with. You have imagination! And it shows quite often. ;) ;) ;)

"And of course, you yourself are one of the worst ever people on this forum for bad bahaviour."

Again? Oh really?   Go ahead and find the posts that show what you just stated??  Go ahead!!The trouble in doing that is most likely the argument would be with you. And the 'audience' that you direct to those posts you claim of me, will be able to read your posts along side of mine, and judge for themselves. lol  So go ahead. Find my potty mouth posts that dont exist. And then we will reminisce some of your gratuitous works. ;) ;) ;) ;)
 
Magluvin

I admitted that I was wrong about the ICE.  I did not "beat Brad into submission" about the ICE, that's ridiculous.  Point finale.  You haven't seen Brad badgering me?

I guess that you don't listen to the news.  The guy was a serial s** offender with underage children.

Quote
Oh. So now YOU KNOW for sure the guy in the picture is a, what? A Serial  offender?(http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/huh.gif) And you can show evidence of this?(http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Is what you are stating here ACTUAL FACT?(http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/huh.gif)   Or is it the fiction machine you have in that balloon on your shoulders??? (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif) DO IT! I DEMAND THAT YOU PROVE YOUR STATEMENT AS FACT!!!   lol  Ya cant. You presumed. A word you frequent with. You have imagination! And it shows quite often. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

So now you have become unglued?  What kind of ridiculous point are you trying to make here?

Quote
Again? Oh really?   Go ahead and find the posts that show what you just stated??

You damn well know it, you harassed and demeaned and degraded me for a FULL YEAR and you enjoyed it.  Your partner in crime was Synchro1 and both of you were disgusting in your behaviour.

Take a look at the attached image.  That was your tag-team buddy in action.

MileHigh

Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5884
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2015 on: April 17, 2016, 02:23:26 AM »
Like it or not, if Brad is having a meltdown because he is being given the straight goods, then he needs to have an un-meltdown soon.  Brad is going overboard and almost insane when trying to discuss things with me, and if you can't show some reasonable semblance of balance then it's all a joke and a farce.

Take the example of Brad insisting that you had to account for whether or not a car was on a hill to determine it's top speed.  Who here commented that that made no sense?  Not a single one of you.

Brad said this in posting #1987:  "It is also funny how you have used the term!compressed spring!,where a spring has very little stiffness,but a high value of elasticity--something to think about"

I asked if anybody wanted to correct him with respect to that statement and not a single one of you said anything.  Not a single one of you!

If any of you showed some balance and were willing to tell Brad when he was making incorrect, crazy or ridiculous statements beyond just myself and Minnie and occasionally Poynt, then perhaps he would not be in meltdown mode.  He is obsessively and compulsively telling me I am wrong and impugning my character and none of you have anything to say about it.  You are giving him free reign to run wild and go nearly nuts and saying nothing.

And so Brad got some push-back from me, and he had to get a lot more from me because almost none of you would step in and tell him when he was dead wrong and/or out of control.  I must have gone through a dozen or more completely out-of-kilter debates with Brad where he stuck to some ridiculous notion.  Like when he insisted that a Joule Thief was an RLC circuit when there isn't even a capacitor in the schematic.

I told Brad that I would state the truth as I see it on this thread only and I would not touch any of the development threads that he and Magluvin are on, but I would stand my ground for what is right on this thread.  And Brad keeps coming back to this thread and arguing stuff that is sometimes foolish and crazy.  I told him I would not fight over the definition of impedance with him, he could take that battle somewhere else.

There are two sides to this ridiculous drama and I am only hearing one side.  I don't even want the drama, why is Brad arguing with me about his new little transformer experiment?  There is a dedicated thread for that.  He can say whatever he wants to say on the build thread and I probably won't even read it.

" but I would stand my ground for what is right on this thread."

But the problem with that is you 'presume' things as fact until you know otherwise. Like the wine glass. You didnt know much while arguing about it till you said you took some time and came up with a theory and confirmed it in some link. Or all the crap you gave brad about the ice until many many days later you concede. Well isnt that what you beat on people here for, is that you believe their are presuming things in their 'claims' and really not knowing it at all??????? And calling them names and insulting them because of it? Hypocrisy at its best. ;)


Mags

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2016 on: April 17, 2016, 02:26:28 AM »
EDIT
YIKES !!


I hope you Guys can take a break on Sunday from the Hard stuff....[maybe make it linger.....?

have a good night


MileHigh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7600
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2017 on: April 17, 2016, 02:29:05 AM »
" but I would stand my ground for what is right on this thread."

But the problem with that is you 'presume' things as fact until you know otherwise. Like the wine glass. You didnt know much while arguing about it till you said you took some time and came up with a theory and confirmed it in some link. Or all the crap you gave brad about the ice until many many days later you concede. Well isnt that what you beat on people here for, is that you believe their are presuming things in their 'claims' and really not knowing it at all? ??? ??? And calling them names and insulting them because of it? Hypocrisy at its best. ;)

Mags

No, I understood how a wine glass resonates the whole time, it's just a bloody mechanical LC resonator, nothing could be simpler.  I have an engineering background, remember?  What was tough was finding confirmation online in case anybody wanted it.

You must have called me an "idiot" between 300 and 500 timesAnd you clearly enjoyed it.

MileHigh

Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5884
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2018 on: April 17, 2016, 02:40:04 AM »
I admitted that I was wrong about the ICE.  I did not "beat Brad into submission" about the ICE, that's ridiculous.  Point finale.  You haven't seen Brad badgering me?

I guess that you don't listen to the news.  The guy was a serial s** offender with underage children.

So now you have become unglued?  What kind of ridiculous point are you trying to make here?

You damn well know it, you harassed and demeaned and degraded me for a FULL YEAR and you enjoyed it.  Your partner in crime was Synchro1 and both of you were disgusting in your behaviour.

Take a look at the attached image.  That was your tag-team buddy in action.

MileHigh

"I admitted that I was wrong about the ICE.  I did not "beat Brad into submission" about the ICE, that's ridiculous.  Point finale.  You haven't seen Brad badgering me?"

Ok. And How long did you argue out of ignorance before that? Shall I go pand grab the tasty nuggets from that time period of you insulting Brad over something you were wrong about???  Oh. I admitted I was wrong. Thats it. ;)    Yeah. Move on everyone, thats it. ::)


"I guess that you don't listen to the news.  The guy was a serial s** offender with underage children."

Nope. Not a particular thing I choose to read frankly. I have much better things to do with my time. ;) Even writing this is better than reading that... But to each his own. Be my guest. ::)


"So now you have become unglued?  What kind of ridiculous point are you trying to make here?"

Naturally in your quote of me there something is screwed up. Here, let me repost it undistorted for you.....

"Oh. So now YOU KNOW for sure the guy in the picture is a, what? A Serial  offender? And you can show evidence of this?Is what you are stating here ACTUAL FACT?   Or is it the fiction machine you have in that balloon on your shoulders???    DO IT! I DEMAND THAT YOU PROVE YOUR STATEMENT AS FACT!!!   lol  Ya cant. You presumed. A word you frequent with. You have imagination! And it shows quite often. "



"You damn well know it, you harassed and demeaned and degraded me for a FULL YEAR and you enjoyed it.  Your partner in crime was Synchro1 and both of you were disgusting in your behaviour."

And I beat you good too. ;) You deserved it. I was in lockup for some time for beating you to a pulp. lol


"Take a look at the attached image.  That was your tag-team buddy in action."

Lol. Yeah. Take a look at that folks.  Yeah. Thats not even my post and you put it up as if I had anything to do with writing those words. Your the one thats loosing it bud. Clearly. ::)

Really? ;)


Magluvin

MileHigh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7600
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2019 on: April 17, 2016, 02:50:11 AM »
Magluvin:

Motorcycle dude crossed a line.

Brad has been going almost nuts and his behaviour is as bad or worse than mine.  98% of the time when he claims that I am wrong, he is wrong.  98% of the time when I claim that he is wrong, I am right.

Quote
Oh. So now YOU KNOW for sure the guy in the picture is a, what? A Serial  offender? And you can show evidence of this?Is what you are stating here ACTUAL FACT?   Or is it the fiction machine you have in that balloon on your shoulders???    DO IT! I DEMAND THAT YOU PROVE YOUR STATEMENT AS FACT!!!   lol  Ya cant. You presumed. A word you frequent with. You have imagination! And it shows quite often.

Punch the guy's name into Google and you will feel like an ignorant fool for that silly rant.

Quote
And I beat you good too. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You deserved it. I was in lockup for some time for beating you to a pulp. lol

You were absolutely disgusting and you never had the character to apologize for it.  It's a black stain on your character.

Quote
Lol. Yeah. Take a look at that folks.  Yeah. Thats not even my post and you put it up as if I had anything to do with writing those words. Your the one thats loosing it bud. Clearly.

You tag-teamed with him for a full year and both of you were over the top.  It was truly awful.  If you want to gloat over your awful behaviour, go ahead.

Really.

MileHigh

Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5884
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2020 on: April 17, 2016, 02:51:37 AM »
No, I understood how a wine glass resonates the whole time, it's just a bloody mechanical LC resonator, nothing could be simpler.  I have an engineering background, remember?  What was tough was finding confirmation online in case anybody wanted it.

You must have called me an "idiot" between 300 and 500 timesAnd you clearly enjoyed it.

MileHigh

Ok. Ill be back in a few when I find the post where you say you had taken a little time and came up with a theory THEN, not beforehand.  Be right back. Many pages. Ill just go through the list of your posts to make a quicker job of it. Lets see, I click your name Milehigh and enter. Ok. Click Show Posts. Ok  Lol  eat your words.

Lol. you dont remember saying that before you said you would give the answer in 4 to 8 weeks?  Yeah. I remember.  ;) But you dont.   Ok lets see who is telling fibs, or just has a bad memory. Either way, the readers will know us much better. ;D ;) And the ones that do remember what you said, already know the conclusion. ;)


Magluvingit

MileHigh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7600
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2021 on: April 17, 2016, 03:05:13 AM »
Ok. Ill be back in a few when I find the post where you say you had taken a little time and came up with a theory THEN, not beforehand.  Be right back. Many pages. Ill just go through the list of your posts to make a quicker job of it. Lets see, I click your name Milehigh and enter. Ok. Click Show Posts. Ok  Lol  eat your words.

Lol. you dont remember saying that before you said you would give the answer in 4 to 8 weeks?  Yeah. I remember.  ;) But you dont.   Ok lets see who is telling fibs, or just has a bad memory. Either way, the readers will know us much better. ;D ;) And the ones that do remember what you said, already know the conclusion. ;)

Magluvingit

I'll qualify that right now.  I was 99% sure of myself, after all, it's a just a bloody LC resonator.  A level of simplicity that escaped everybody that tried to answer the questions.  So the "theory" part was just me thinking about it some more to be 100% certain that I had all my ducks lined up in a row and I would be able to articulate the answers clearly and with no ambiguity.  That's why I used the word "stiffness."  That's it.  I have known the physical/electrical model for a resonating wine glass for the past 35 years.

The real work was like I said, finding references online to back up my answers in case there were any moaners and groaners.  And of course it degenerated into a circus with a chorus of people claiming that I got it all wrong and in reality the "wrong" answers that I posted were really right.  And the "right" answers that were posted by various people were really wrong.  Dr. Strangelove meets Monty Python yet again.

And again, your behavior along with Syncho1 on that stupid "delayed Lenz effect" thread was absolutely disgusting and you should be ashamed and you have a serious dark stain on your character from that awful horrible experience.  You couldn't even apologize.  The fact that you enjoyed it just makes the stain darker and the level of disgust that much deeper.

MileHigh

Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5884
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2022 on: April 17, 2016, 03:05:47 AM »
Magluvin:

Motorcycle dude crossed a line.

Brad has been going almost nuts and his behaviour is as bad or worse than mine.  98% of the time when he claims that I am wrong, he is wrong.  98% of the time when I claim that he is wrong, I am right.

Punch the guy's name into Google and you will feel like an ignorant fool for that silly rant.

You were absolutely disgusting and you never had the character to apologize for it.  It's a black stain on your character.

You tag-teamed with him for a full year and both of you were over the top.  It was truly awful.  If you want to gloat over your awful behaviour, go ahead.

Really.

MileHigh

"Punch the guy's name into Google and you will feel like an ignorant fool for that silly rant."

Its not my claim. It is yours to prove.  Maybe it is in your browser history. ::)


"You were absolutely disgusting and you never had the character to apologize for it.  It's a black stain on your character."

Lets see. Did you apologize to Brad about the ICE resonance????  Hypocrisy anyone? Here. Have some black stain.   ;)



"You tag-teamed with him for a full year and both of you were over the top.  It was truly awful.  If you want to gloat over your awful behaviour, go ahead"

Playing the victim.   Well here is a tune for ya. Performed by Alison Porter on The Voice.  This woman can sing.  Supposedly was Curly Sue(the movie) back in the days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfWexe28r04&ebc=ANyPxKoEYaXneXUTgLVITQdNauZKv5QOS-zOPxztCdRDz21sY82TIxwrLQFR4fs3p2-qSUvRQScrx7SvBt-czAKPYH6TfiNtzw



Mags
 

Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5884
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2023 on: April 17, 2016, 03:12:07 AM »
I'll qualify that right now.  I was 99% sure of myself, after all, it's a just a bloody LC resonator.  A level of simplicity that escaped everybody that tried to answer the questions.  So the "theory" part was just me thinking about it some more to be 100% certain that I had all my ducks lined up in a row and I would be able to articulate the answers clearly and with no ambiguity.  That's it.  I have known the physical/electrical model for a resonating wine glass for the past 35 years.

The real work was like I said, finding references online to back up my answers in case there were any moaners and groaners.  And of course it degenerated into a circus with a chorus of people claiming that I got it all wrong and in reality the "wrong" answers that I posted were really right.  Dr. Strangelove meets Monty Python yet again.

And again, your behavior along with Syncho1 on that stupid "delayed Lenz effect" thread was absolutely disgusting and you should be ashamed and you have a serious dark stain on your character from that awful horrible experience.  You couldn't even apologize.  The fact that you enjoyed it just makes the stain darker and the level of disgust that much deeper.

MileHigh

99%. Unless you had written that 99% back then, but saying it now after the fact, is not very reassuring. Ill see what you said. Still looking. Back quite a few weeks.

Mags

MileHigh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7600
Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2024 on: April 17, 2016, 03:16:56 AM »
Quote
Its not my claim. It is yours to prove.  Maybe it is in your browser history.

Even if you don't follow the news, this one was really really hard to miss.  That's a deficiency.  The other deficiency is not denouncing what motorcycle dude did.

You were the aggressor and I shut you up and shut you down.  Then you had a moment of soul searching about your character and about over unity itself.  You realized that it was consuming you and you had nothing to show for it for years of work.  For all practical intents and purposes you disappeared.

And here you are defending Brad when I am arguing things with Brad like, "No, you do not measure the top speed of a car on a hill."  And you are a car guy for Christ's sake!

Turn off the bad boy Magluvin and just go back to being civil again.  But I will never forget that one full year of insane vicious harassment from you and the fact that you never apologized for it.