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EMJunkie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1605 on: April 09, 2016, 07:31:42 AM »



Bill Are you seeing this:



Chris:

This is as close as I can get to a smoking gun to prove that you lied:

http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg451230/#msg451230

Me to you:  "Well, you bragged a lot about your electronics prowess and knowledge about coils.  (10 years+ worth, wasn't it?)  I gave you a circuit that consisted of a voltage source and a single coil and you fell flat on your face and had a mini freakout when you could not answer a question about it."

That posting is from May 26th, 2015.  So sometime before that I posed the question to you about a single ideal coil and an ideal voltage source.  You could not answer it, and eventually MarkE stepped in and answered the very simple question.

MileHigh



Some kind of strange accusations that I know everything: a 1770 x 313 Image that claims of claims are claims and claims of claims... Or somthing strange like that - WOW Smoking Gun!!!


I guess one of those "Had to be there to get it" situations? Delusions of a Crazy person maybe!!!



Bill, are you seeing this? Boxes being Ticked on a large scale now!!! claims of claims are claims and claims of claims ...


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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1606 on: April 09, 2016, 07:50:13 AM »
Brad:

I really don't give a rat's ass.

But there is a funny little story about your forum.  None of the "boys" could understand where the infamous high-voltage spike came from in a coil in a Bedini motor, and they had been building motors for months.  They all were clueless and very puzzled about the whole affair.  They were all budding Bedini enthusiasts.  That includes Mr. CaribbeanRoots/TimberJack.  As we know, he is not technical at all, his fun is just to build stuff out of MDF panels and he barely pays attention to measurements.  It also included Mr. Twally and others that wanted to understand the "mystery" of the high voltage spike.

Since nobody was at a decent technical level, I spent about 10 hours of hard work over about two weeks to craft about half a dozen postings to explain where the high voltage spike came from in a step-by-step process, one posting leading into the next posting to construct a comprehensible narrative for people with no technical background.  It was a lot of hard work and I did it to hopefully educate your little gang and take them to the next level of understanding.

So when I finally made my last posting, it turned out to be a complete farce.  All of a sudden everybody said, "Oh, I knew that."  They were all lying, it was a disgusting display of human nature at it's worst.  They were all a bunch of strutting peacocks having a mutual wanking session and "pretending" that they already knew and understood.  And that includes good old Mr. TimberJack, who was the site operator at the time, who barely knows what he is doing when it comes to electronics.  He just wants to be in his shop cutting up MDF.

Well, I was pretty disgusted at this miserable display of human nature at its worst.  I did all that work, and I don't think anybody even thanked me.  All that they did was bullshit and feign that they "already knew" what I was talking about.  Bald-faces liars.

So my attitude changed and Timber boy looked for an opportunity to get rid of me and then he took it.

You, on the other hand, got my respect because you did not strut around like a fake-ass bullshitting peacock in a grotesque display of fake colours.  You did not lie like the others and claim that you "already knew."

However, a few weeks after that incredibly disappointing fiasco and grotesque display of how awful human nature can be, I went to your YouTube channel and looked at one of your clips.  I made some kind of technical comment to help you and when you saw it you banned me from your channel.  So in the end you ended up in the same morally bankrupt boat as the fake-ass strutting peacocks.

I just glanced at your forum now, and I have perhaps looked at it one or two times in the past two years.  Your forum is treading water, it's just one step above being a ghost town.  It's just consolidation, there is only so much room on the Internet for free energy forums.

But all in all, I don't give a rat's ass.  Go build another funky contraption with coils and do your thing.  You won't be working on the Galaxy S8, that's for sure.

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1607 on: April 09, 2016, 07:59:49 AM »



@MileHigh - What I can prove, is that it is you that is Lying right now:


1: You don't know what I know and don't know! How could you?
2: I never claimed to be an Expert in Electronics, I know enough to get by most of the time.
3: I know exactly what a Cap can do and cant in a circuit!
4: Bill and I have had communications before. I trust Bill, I know he would never mislead others. Besides I know the storey behind How Bill got onto this technology and where it actually came from! If I told you, you would not believe me!
5: I have researched this stuff for a long time! I believe I have something to share that is of value!



If anyone would like, all the posts are there, please feel free to go back and verify the fact that I never claimed to be an electronics guru. If MileHigh insists I did then we all know what that means anyway.

The very fact that we all know MileHigh to be what he is, is surely enough to save your own time anyway...

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1608 on: April 09, 2016, 08:03:02 AM »


Bill, are you seeing this:


Brad:

I really don't give a rat's ass.

But there is a funny little story about your forum.  None of the "boys" could understand where the infamous high-voltage spike came from in a coil in a Bedini motor, and they had been building motors for months.  They all were clueless and very puzzled about the whole affair.  They were all budding Bedini enthusiasts.  That includes Mr. CaribbeanRoots/TimberJack.  As we know, he is not technical at all, his fun is just to build stuff out of MDF panels and he barely pays attention to measurements.  It also included Mr. Twally and others that wanted to understand the "mystery" of the high voltage spike.

Since nobody was at a decent technical level, I spent about 10 hours of hard work over about two weeks to craft about half a dozen postings to explain where the high voltage spike came from in a step-by-step process, one posting leading into the next posting to construct a comprehensible narrative for people with no technical background.  It was a lot of hard work and I did it to hopefully educate your little gang and take them to the next level of understanding.

So when I finally made my last posting, it turned out to be a complete farce.  All of a sudden everybody said, "Oh, I knew that."  They were all lying, it was a disgusting display of human nature at it's worst.  They were all a bunch of strutting peacocks having a mutual wanking session and "pretending" that they already knew and understood.  And that includes good old Mr. TimberJack, who was the site operator at the time, who barely knows what he is doing when it comes to electronics.  He just wants to be in his shop cutting up MDF.

Well, I was pretty disgusted at this miserable display of human nature at its worst.  I did all that work, and I don't think anybody even thanked me.  All that they did was bullshit and feign that they "already knew" what I was talking about.  Bald-faces liars.

So my attitude changed and Timber boy looked for an opportunity to get rid of me and then he took it.

You, on the other hand, got my respect because you did not strut around like a fake-ass bullshitting peacock in a grotesque display of fake colours.  You did not lie like the others and claim that you "already knew."

However, a few weeks after that incredibly disappointing fiasco and grotesque display of how awful human nature can be, I went to your YouTube channel and looked at one of your clips.  I made some kind of technical comment to help you and when you saw it you banned me from your channel.  So in the end you ended up in the same morally bankrupt boat as the fake-ass strutting peacocks.

I just glanced at your forum now, and I have perhaps looked at it one or two times in the past two years.  Your forum is treading water, it's just one step above being a ghost town.  It's just consolidation, there is only so much room on the Internet for free energy forums.

But all in all, I don't give a rat's ass.  Go build another funky contraption with coils and do your thing.  You won't be working on the Galaxy S8, that's for sure.

MileHigh


Alot more profanitys, personal attacks, and terrible language skills...

Obama, send this Terrorist to Guantanamo Bay Torture Center for Rehabilitation and Retraining!!!

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1609 on: April 09, 2016, 08:13:30 AM »



Brad, I am thinking about building a new Space Center, it will be called "Galaxy S8" - Wanna work on it with me?

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1610 on: April 09, 2016, 08:18:34 AM »
Chris, your signal to noise ratio is -140 dB.

EMJunkie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1611 on: April 09, 2016, 08:36:17 AM »


Bill, are you seeing this:



Chris, your signal to noise ratio is -140 dB.


Name Calling, he said I was a Number!


Terribly Painfull that was. I am shattered... Hahahahahaha

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1612 on: April 09, 2016, 08:43:42 AM »



MileHigh - Do you like this:

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1613 on: April 09, 2016, 09:51:47 AM »
Hey good to see the same old NeoCIA spokespersons plugging away.

say Brad what is this other forum can someone link me?

good recently video re resonance by the way.

just keep experimenting (as you do )  when you are bored come chat with the NeoCIA guys.

(that's generally what i do, after all they are just doing their job )

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1614 on: April 09, 2016, 10:17:02 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzK1pph4sYM

the microwave double charger - great video ha ha.

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1615 on: April 09, 2016, 10:48:10 AM »
Hey good to see the same old NeoCIA spokespersons plugging away.

say Brad what is this other forum can someone link me?

good recently video re resonance by the way.

just keep experimenting (as you do )  when you are bored come chat with the NeoCIA guys.

(that's generally what i do, after all they are just doing their job )

Sure,although,as MH said,it has become quite quiet over there since myself and timberjack left the reins with 49er. Many others have also moved on-just life i guess :)

http://iaec.forumco.com/


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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1616 on: April 09, 2016, 10:51:14 AM »

Bill, are you seeing this:




Name Calling, he said I was a Number!


Terribly Painfull that was. I am shattered... Hahahahahaha

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Lol
Some times you crack me up Chris lol.

Bill,Bill--are you seeing this Bill.

Bill-where are you--lookit over here--MH bloody :P--Bill--you there Bill. :(

Bill-MH said  :-* my ass--Bill--you there Bill--are you seeing this Bill.


Lol

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1617 on: April 09, 2016, 11:03:39 AM »
Lol
Some times you crack me up Chris lol.

Bill,Bill--are you seeing this Bill.

Bill-where are you--lookit over here--MH bloody :P--Bill--you there Bill. :(

Bill-MH said  :-* my ass--Bill--you there Bill--are you seeing this Bill.


Lol



Hahahaha - I am glad my Humor tickles someone around here.

Try to lighten things up a bit when the heat is on!

Happy Days Brad, we have such a wonderfull future ahead of us!!!

Let me ask you, is the EMF 180 or 90, pm me the answer as I know its a touchy subject on this thread atm!

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1618 on: April 09, 2016, 02:50:35 PM »


Hahahaha - I am glad my Humor tickles someone around here.

Try to lighten things up a bit when the heat is on!

Happy Days Brad, we have such a wonderfull future ahead of us!!!

Let me ask you, is the EMF 180 or 90, pm me the answer as I know its a touchy subject on this thread atm!

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At 50Hz,with a 5 watt incandescent bulb as a load on the secondary.

As EMF is measured in voltage,then the EMF phase relationship between primary and secondary is either 180* or in phase with each other--depending where you place MHs dot's on the transformers primary and secondary windings. As it is AC,then either is correct. But if we are to stick to the dot convention,then the EMF phase relationship between L1 and L2 is 180*-as in first scope shot.

If the load on the secondary is purely resistive,then the currents phase angle relationship between L1 and L2 is also 180*-if we are to assume ideal (or near to) conditions-as in second scope shot.

At 50Hz-the frequency we are using for these examples,the voltage and current will be in phase with each other(or very close to) in both L1 and L2-as in 3rd scope shot.

But this is only with a resistive load placed on L2. If L2 is open,then there is a phase shift of about 90* between L1s current trace,and L2 EMF trace.

To quote TK---:
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Brad, your scope shot shows the expected 90 degree phase difference as predicted by Faraday's Law: The induced (negative) EMF in the second coil is proportional to the _time rate of change_ of the inducing magnetic field from the first coil.

So in regards to my question on the schematic,where the secondary was open, and associated scope shot,TKs reply is correct. If a decent resistive load is placed on the secondary,and where we are operating at the transformers designed operational frequency,then L1s current  will be very close to 180* from L2s voltage/EMF.


Brad

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1619 on: April 09, 2016, 04:17:01 PM »
At 50Hz,with a 5 watt incandescent bulb as a load on the secondary.

As EMF is measured in voltage,then the EMF phase relationship between primary and secondary is either 180* or in phase with each other--depending where you place MHs dot's on the transformers primary and secondary windings. As it is AC,then either is correct. But if we are to stick to the dot convention,then the EMF phase relationship between L1 and L2 is 180*-as in first scope shot.

If the load on the secondary is purely resistive,then the currents phase angle relationship between L1 and L2 is also 180*-if we are to assume ideal (or near to) conditions-as in second scope shot.

At 50Hz-the frequency we are using for these examples,the voltage and current will be in phase with each other(or very close to) in both L1 and L2-as in 3rd scope shot.

But this is only with a resistive load placed on L2. If L2 is open,then there is a phase shift of about 90* between L1s current trace,and L2 EMF trace.

To quote TK---:
So in regards to my question on the schematic,where the secondary was open, and associated scope shot,TKs reply is correct. If a decent resistive load is placed on the secondary,and where we are operating at the transformers designed operational frequency,then L1s current  will be very close to 180* from L2s voltage/EMF.


Brad


Now this is what I call truely professional.

Nice Job! Yes a Resistive/Capacitive or Inductive load, or combinations of each, will change the Voltage Current Phase angle and sometimes it will be very dramatic!

The Voltage to Current Phase Angle, which needs to be measured and accounted for separately, is not aligned to Faradays Law of Electromagnetic Induction at all, its Load dependant. As you know already and have pointed out.

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