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EMJunkie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1455 on: April 07, 2016, 12:51:45 AM »


   Good Koala,
           super conductivity is a nice proof of what you're saying,
                   John.



Truly - Now I know what you dufuses are on!!!

Superconductors do what exactly to prove TK's Foolishness?

Oh thats right, nothing at all!!!


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minnie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1456 on: April 07, 2016, 12:55:28 AM »



 Ok.

EMJunkie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1457 on: April 07, 2016, 12:57:28 AM »


  Good Koala,
        super-conductivity,nice proof of your point.
                 John.





John, what is a Room Temprature Super Conductor?

Show us that you know what youre talking about, go on. Show us that TK is really and truely a Dummy!!

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minnie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1458 on: April 07, 2016, 01:03:10 AM »



  I don't think the 2G HTS is quite the real McCoy.

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1459 on: April 07, 2016, 01:43:57 AM »
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MileHigh


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I am willing to admit when I make a mistake.


No your not.
In fact,you dont even know the difference between your own truth and lies now MH.

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You have been treated normally by me and called out on your misconceptions, mistakes, and wonky beliefs

There is one of those lies now,as it is you that has been caught out !on many occasions! on your lack of knowledge on the subject matter-that being resonance.

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Your attack strategy against me is to just go on and on about my mistakes to the point of absurdity.  You can't do that, you can't actually admit when you have made a mistake, and that is completely absurd.

More lies--your getting good at this MH.

 
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You are being given the straight goods by me, because I have a spine.

You have no spine,nor do you know anything about !!the goods!!

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That's an example of you taking your attack to the point of complete absurdity.

And more lie's.
I left it alone MH,and you continued to drag my name down into the mud,and now you will be getting some of your own medicine ;)

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And EMJunkie decided that he would copy you.

EMJ just knows who you are,and what your about.

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The most recent example is you milking the JFet business.  I admitted that I was wrong.  A JFET is NOT a common component like you stated.  You will do anything and say anything in a vain attempt to try to make a point to the point of absurdity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFET
The junction gate field-effect transistor (JFET or JUGFET) is the simplest type of field-effect transistor. They are three-terminal semiconductor devices that can be used as electronically-controlled switches, amplifiers, or voltage-controlled resistors.

You fell in your own hole MH. I called a truce,and you continued on with your insult's,only to find that you screwed up!once again! through way of your lack of knowledge on the simplest of thing's.
You were out to bad mouth me one way or another,but fell flat on your face-->again.

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I answer my questions and the wine glass questions that you can't answer will be answered next week.  And there is no fucking apostrophe in "questions."  Demonstrate that you can learn something.

You dont even know what a J/FET is,but you feel good enough to correct me on an apostrophe lol.
It would seem that you were able to read it without to much trouble MH ;)

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The answer is simple.  You looked up a JFET recently and I haven't thought about one for 35 years since I last sat through that material in an electronics class.

Seems that there are a few more thing's other than a J/FET you have forgotten about in the last 35 years MH.

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Bullshit, I don't mind being corrected at all.  You are the one that has that problem because you can't admit that you are wrong.

Lol-you hate it MH--You hate being corrected by those that you think are beneath you.

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You have a mental block.

And you have mental problem's--your starting to believe your own lies. :o

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And there is no fucking apostrophe in "yours."  Demonstrate that you can learn something.

Ah'h--sorr'y M'H,i wil'l try a little harde'r to get the apostrophe's in the correct place's when makin'g post's,as it is most importan't in the outcom'e of the research we do here.

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You can kiss my ass with your bullshit statement about me not knowing about the frequency domain.

Good luck with that.
It is a good thing you have PW here to help you out on that one ;)

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it's totally grotesque to read your stupid-ass trash.  I have been discussing issues related to the frequency domain ever since I have been around here and just about everybody knows that - and you damn well know it's true.

Sure you have :D

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The main operation on an ICE is a synchronous machine and has nothing whatsoever to do with resonance.

Opp's--here we go again ;D

 
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The fact that the air intake and outlets make use of Helmholtz resonators is a distant secondary consideration and I admitted that I was ignorant of that fact.

The fact is-you are lost when it come's to ICE's.

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Bullshit you proved me wrong.  Screw you with your Brad's Bizarro World of anti-logic.  You linked to a book that said resonance in the combustion chamber is undesirable and bad for the engine.  Your link backfired on you.  You said you would find a link to back up your claim and you have not delivered on that.

No,i provided a link to show !once again!,that you have no idea what you are talking about. You said there was no resonance associated with the internal parts of an ICE--E.G the piston. It took me all of two minutes to prove you wrong-once again ;)
I did not say that it was a good thing,but feel free to go and try and find where i said otherwise. What i did,was show that you have no knowledge at all when it come's to ICE's,and the research being done on resonant systems that exist within them.

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Kiss my ass Brad with your stupid-ass gratuitous nonsense.  For the past five years you have been claiming that I am one of the "big guns" and you are clearly demonstrating how low you can go and how deeply you can compromise your integrity.

Firstly,i would not go anywhere near you ass--unless it was with a cattle prod.
And i think it is your integrity that has been severely damaged here--and you did it all by your self MH.

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The fact is that you have no problems turning bad and going completely morally bankrupt and making a spectacle of yourself.

The fact is MH,there come's a time when your bullshit must stop.
Nearly everyone here is done with it ;)

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You have buried yourself into your own deep dark chasm, you are one creepy dude that can't handle things and you lose your composure and throw away all of your personal integrity.

The facts are MH,we will simply not be told right from wrong by some one that dose not even own a JT,nor dose any experimenting of his own.
Why are you here?,as we have seen that you know far less than you have made out over the year's.
Where are all these great discoveries being made by those who !!go by the book!! ?.

Perhaps you should dust of them old book's,and give yourself a refresher course ,and then come back and join in. ;)

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The wine glass questions about resonance that you can't answer will be answered next week.

Not in the least bit interested in your almighty resonance theory. Spend your time on that book review,as it would be more helpful if you knew the workings of simple electronic components--like the J/FET.  I mean,it isnt that hard MH--even i have learned a bit more about the simple diode in the past week ;)

Brad
« Last Edit: April 07, 2016, 11:44:28 AM by tinman »

EMJunkie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1460 on: April 07, 2016, 02:35:29 AM »


  I don't think the 2G HTS is quite the real McCoy.




There is that word again, you blokes use it all the time: "think"

A very different definition to fact!!!

I "think" TK could not think his way out of a Paper Bag, or fact: TK could not think his way out of a Paper Bag!!!

Two very different meanings!!!

FYI: Lithium ‘doping’ turns graphene into a superconductor - Just one article of many hundreds of thousands now, Graphene (Doped) can become a Room Temprature Super conductor! Very well known through out Real Science with Real Facts.

Oh Dear, look another one: Graphene made superconductive by doping with lithium atoms

Now if memory serves, this completely contradicts the All Mighty BS Artist himself?

Oh yes, to save you time, its simply Pencil Lead, thats what Graphene is...

There is no hope for you blokes at all!!! 30 Years ago you might have been smart, today you are relics riding on the backs of relics!!!

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« Last Edit: April 07, 2016, 05:23:12 AM by EMJunkie »

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1461 on: April 07, 2016, 02:44:01 AM »
Brad:

That posting is nothing more than useless trash talk one more time.  How many times have you seen people do stuff with JFETs around here?  Your argument about resonance in the combustion chamber is completely ridiculous, just like arguing that you have to factor in whether or not a car is on a slope to determine its top speed is totally and absolutely ridiculous.  Just like arguing that you have to have specifics to answer something and you can't answer something on a conceptual level is ridiculous.  These are arguments of another dimension - the Brad dimension.  You are your own strange reality and it has been totally bizarre arguing about things like that with you when with a sensible person they would not even be on the table.

You did not find a link stating that resonance in the combustion chamber was a benefit like you said you would.  The only thing you could do was try to rewrite history.

Here is what you said in post #1360:

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I will dig up some more info for you ASAP.
Like I said, there is truth in what you say about unwanted resonance. But that truth also dismisses your claim about there being no resonancs what so ever within the internals of the ICE ir self.
They use information gathered around these resonant effect to increase the efficiency of the ICE.

You never came back with anything to show beneficial effects with respect to efficiency for acoustic resonance inside a combustion chamber.

Beyond that, your argument that you "proved there is resonance" in an ICE is so absolutely ridiculous that you have to wonder what planet you are on.  Okay, so there is disruptive acoustic resonance in the combustion chamber of a cylinder and that is a bad thing.  Well, hundreds or thousands of other parts in an engine or the car itself will also resonate, and most of them are sufficiently damped to not cause any problems.  It all depends on how sensitive you want to make your measurements.  At a very sensitive measurement level, just about every single damn piece of the car can resonate and does resonate when the engine is on.  As long as there is a ping somewhere then things will resonate.  Hell, you slam your car door shut and the whole bloody car will resonate.  It's just another stupid-ass morally bankrupt absolutely ridiculous argument from you.

After six years you are still struggling to understand basic stuff and that's why you are still convinced that "energy comes from magnets" when you add magnets to a spinny pulse motor made from a dishwasher motor and see it spin faster.

I told you, I am not going to discuss your next disassembled appliance pulse motor.  You can go off into your zone and completely zone out.  But I will close the loop on the resonating wine glass.  And no, when you say (to paraphrase), "the mechanism for resonance in a wine glass is that when you hit it at its resonant frequency and it starts to resonate" is a pathetic attempt at an answer.  It's so bad that it's "not even wrong."  It doesn't even address the bloody question it's so bad.

You can go back to your deluded fake-ass dream world of electronics after this thread is over.  You should hook up with EMJunkie and you two can stroke each other up and reinforce each other's delusions.

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1462 on: April 07, 2016, 02:52:09 AM »
Brad:

That posting is nothing more than useless trash talk one more time.  How many times have you seen people do stuff with JFETs around here?  Your argument about resonance in the combustion chamber is completely ridiculous, just like arguing that you have to factor in whether or not a car is on a slope to determine its top speed is totally and absolutely ridiculous.  Just like arguing that you have to have specifics to answer something and you can't answer something on a conceptual level is ridiculous.  These are arguments of another dimension - the Brad dimension.  You are your own strange reality and it has been totally bizarre arguing about things like that with you when with a sensible person they would not even be on the table.

You did not find a link stating that resonance in the combustion chamber was a benefit like you said you would.  The only thing you could do was try to rewrite history.

After six years you are still struggling to understand basic stuff and that's why you are still convinced that "energy comes from magnets" when you add magnets to a spinny pulse motor made from a dishwasher motor and see it spin faster.

I told you, I am not going to discuss your next disassembled appliance pulse motor.  You can go off into your zone and completely zone out.  But I will close the loop on the resonating wine glass.  And no, when you say (to paraphrase), "the mechanism for resonance in a wine glass is that when you hit it at it's resonant frequency and it starts to resonate" is a pathetic attempt at an answer.  It's so bad that it's "not even wrong."  It doesn't even address the bloody question it's so bad.

You can go back to your deluded fake-ass dream world of electronics after this thread is over.  You should hook up with EMJunkie and you two can stroke each other up and reinforce each other's delusions.

MileHigh



Oh dear, what a bunch of Cow Poking...

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tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1463 on: April 07, 2016, 07:19:04 AM »
Brad:

That posting is nothing more than useless trash talk one more time.  How many times have you seen people do stuff with JFETs around here?  Your argument about resonance in the combustion chamber is completely ridiculous, just like arguing that you have to factor in whether or not a car is on a slope to determine its top speed is totally and absolutely ridiculous.  Just like arguing that you have to have specifics to answer something and you can't answer something on a conceptual level is ridiculous.  These are arguments of another dimension - the Brad dimension.  You are your own strange reality and it has been totally bizarre arguing about things like that with you when with a sensible person they would not even be on the table.

You did not find a link stating that resonance in the combustion chamber was a benefit like you said you would.  The only thing you could do was try to rewrite history.

Here is what you said in post #1360:

You never came back with anything to show beneficial effects with respect to efficiency for acoustic resonance inside a combustion chamber.

Beyond that, your argument that you "proved there is resonance" in an ICE is so absolutely ridiculous that you have to wonder what planet you are on.  Okay, so there is disruptive acoustic resonance in the combustion chamber of a cylinder and that is a bad thing.  Well, hundreds or thousands of other parts in an engine or the car itself will also resonate, and most of them are sufficiently damped to not cause any problems.  It all depends on how sensitive you want to make your measurements.  At a very sensitive measurement level, just about every single damn piece of the car can resonate and does resonate when the engine is on.  As long as there is a ping somewhere then things will resonate.  Hell, you slam your car door shut and the whole bloody car will resonate.  It's just another stupid-ass morally bankrupt absolutely ridiculous argument from you.

After six years you are still struggling to understand basic stuff and that's why you are still convinced that "energy comes from magnets" when you add magnets to a spinny pulse motor made from a dishwasher motor and see it spin faster.

I told you, I am not going to discuss your next disassembled appliance pulse motor.  You can go off into your zone and completely zone out.  But I will close the loop on the resonating wine glass.  And no, when you say (to paraphrase), "the mechanism for resonance in a wine glass is that when you hit it at its resonant frequency and it starts to resonate" is a pathetic attempt at an answer.  It's so bad that it's "not even wrong."  It doesn't even address the bloody question it's so bad.

You can go back to your deluded fake-ass dream world of electronics after this thread is over.  You should hook up with EMJunkie and you two can stroke each other up and reinforce each other's delusions.

MileHigh

You really have lost the plot MH.
You dont even understand your own post. You prove me correct in your own writings, and yet you dont see it lol.

Then you waffle on about how much you know about magnets, and you dont even know what the magnetic force is. But still you think you are the be all and end all in the field of magnetics. You think the electromagnetic field and PM field are the same-but nothing could be further from the truth.

One minute you say there is no resonance in an ICE what so ever, then in the next breath, yousay everything resonates lol.
Your all over the show, and it is painfully clear you are a couple of cows short in the top ppaddock.

There are many videos and pages of information about J/FETs and there uses.
You tell us all to go do some research, and learn, while you are happy to take a stab at me, get it all wrong-and why?--because you did not follow your own suggestion, and go do a bit of research your self--you dont follow your own guidlines or recommendations.

So far in this thread, you have been wrong more times than right.
Resonance is clearly not your strong point.


Brad

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1464 on: April 07, 2016, 07:32:42 AM »
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One minute you say there is no resonance in an ICE what so ever, then in the next breath, yousay everything resonates lol.
Your all over the show, and it is painfully clear you are a couple of cows short in the top ppaddock.

I don't know if the quote above is due to your complete and total lack of critical thinking skills and total blindness to any kind of context, or, if it is just more completely useless trash talk.

Either way, it is a total fail.

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1465 on: April 07, 2016, 09:05:08 AM »
Now you are getting it. In the DC case, the magnetic field is set up while the current is changing during the "switch on" time of the current. Once the current is flowing at a steady rate, it "costs" nothing more to maintain the magnetic field, and the field itself doesn't dissipate power. This is how superconducting magnets work. The situation is perfectly symmetrical. You get no current produced from a stationary magnet sitting next to a coil, because there is nothing changing. Move the magnet (or the coil), so that the coil experiences a changing magnetic field, and you get current.  Remember Faraday's Law of Induction (and pay no attention to the confused ravings of EMJunkie): The induced EMF is proportional to the _time rate of change_ of the linked magnetic field. You can take this algebraic equation and re-arrange it according to ordinary algebra, and see that the two situations are indeed symmetrical. The "conundrum" comes from mis-stating the problem or situation in the first place.


TK - Because I used to have some respect for you, I will let you know here, another Member of this forum, and other members, that do not ever post because of people like you, (as a Team), have replicated my work successfully!

These people have done exactly all the right things, ticked all the boxes in a thorough research experiment that verifies exactly what I have been showing the world for some 5 years now.

That’s one more experiment that you couldn’t do properly, that someone else has!!! I have been in contact with these people over the last few days and they just spent most of the night up in their excitement, not able to sleep!

Very soon, you will be the last person on the planet after MH Dies of dementia, forgetting to feed himself to death, that has not achieved the simplest task ever set forth...

Three Coils, or four Coils, the right Connections, the right turns and one can very easily achieve what you fail to grasp - An Excess in Charge Separation, or to some: Over-Unity!!!

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P.S: I will have to say, using foresight, the hardest part for you will be having to admit you were wrong after everyone else has succeded!!! Ouch thats going to sting like nothing else isnt it! How to shatter a God Complex 101...

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1466 on: April 07, 2016, 10:47:47 AM »



 I was going to get myself an osillyscope, but virtually no one on here knows
 how to use one- perhaps this is a more suitable toy.
 Junkie,you sure live up to your name....Junk.

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1467 on: April 07, 2016, 11:15:37 AM »
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Oh dear tinman, you really do need to study basic induction,

We'll see how your basic induction skills go in the not to distant future.
As you are the one claiming that i need to study basic induction,then i expect you to be the first to answer what is happening in my up and coming experiment.
I will expect you to explain as to how voltage(that normally leads current) can be shifted to be in phase with current. You will explain as to how the two can become in phase with each other in a transformer,then we will see how your induction skills are.



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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1468 on: April 07, 2016, 11:26:53 AM »


Brad,

One last thing, what would be required to make Water flow Up hill?



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Water already flow's up hill-daily. ;)


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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1469 on: April 07, 2016, 11:29:47 AM »



tinman,
       would you agree with Koala's point about a super-conductor?
                   John.