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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1425 on: April 06, 2016, 05:15:27 AM »
Be a sad clown if you want.

EMJunkie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1426 on: April 06, 2016, 05:25:21 AM »
Be a sad clown if you want.


Certainly not!!!

Like PW bought up and I also said, Waves have a ton or Real Wave content. All starting from the Fundamental. But from the other angle, with "No Fundamental" there is also no Wave Content.

You’re poking sticks at an imaginary Snake!!! Really not contributing anything of any value and generally trying to be a pest, is this your intent?

Maybe you are out of your depth here? Again!

This may help some: Significance of Time domain and Frequency domain

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1427 on: April 06, 2016, 05:59:23 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TC_CBnqDIU

The best wave I have ever seen.

Seriously, this guy is nuts.

Bill

Really, at least watch the first 30 seconds or until the camera pulls back out.  Almost a perfect sine wave.

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1428 on: April 06, 2016, 06:00:20 AM »
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Maybe you are out of your depth here? Again!

Stop the stupid shtick that you are copying from Brad.  Remember when you had a meltdown when you were asked a ridiculously simple question about a coil that you could not answer and MarkE stepped in and answered it for you?  After months of blabbing all about coils? You are the one that is out of your depth and the best you have been able to do for the past few months is to keep on bumping up your long-dead thread.  You have a long way to go if you are truly interested in electronics.  You quote serious EM stuff and then try to apply it to your nonsensical "partnered output coils."  You revealed your "big demo experiment" of the "partnered coils secret sauce" and it was an under-unity joke showing that you had no clue how to make measurements.  Again, you clearly have a long way to go.

So stop playing games like a clown.  You make an incorrect statement and I corrected you because this stuff is important so I advised you to go back and read what PW said again.

Now be a man and review the material that PW posted and master it so that you can do better experiments.  You need to understand when and where to consider looking at the frequency domain when you want to understand and analyze what a circuit is doing and how it works.  I don't believe you have that skill set right now and John even mentioned way back when that you chose to ignore this important subject matter.

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1429 on: April 06, 2016, 07:05:35 AM »
Stop the stupid shtick that you are copying from Brad.  Remember when you had a meltdown when you were asked a ridiculously simple question about a coil that you could not answer and MarkE stepped in and answered it for you?  After months of blabbing all about coils? You are the one that is out of your depth and the best you have been able to do for the past few months is to keep on bumping up your long-dead thread.  You have a long way to go if you are truly interested in electronics.  You quote serious EM stuff and then try to apply it to your nonsensical "partnered output coils."  You revealed your "big demo experiment" of the "partnered coils secret sauce" and it was an under-unity joke showing that you had no clue how to make measurements.  Again, you clearly have a long way to go.

So stop playing games like a clown.  You make an incorrect statement and I corrected you because this stuff is important so I advised you to go back and read what PW said again.

Now be a man and review the material that PW posted and master it so that you can do better experiments.  You need to understand when and where to consider looking at the frequency domain when you want to understand and analyze what a circuit is doing and how it works.  I don't believe you have that skill set right now and John even mentioned way back when that you chose to ignore this important subject matter.

MileHigh




@MilleHehehehe:

Whos the Sad Clown NOW!!!

You keep making up lies Millehehehehe. He who did not even know why a Coax Cable Signal is 62% of Light... and MarkE stepped in and answered it for you!!! Didnt he MilleHehehehe - I posted the Stan Meyer Circuit, with not a single measurement, No-one investigated it properly! You are judging someone elses work, nothing to do with my work!!! Period!!!

Actually, looking at TinselKoala's Channel, the Circuit I posted, that TK built, still remains the best Input to Neon Light experiment he has ever done! Infact, it kept producing light, with more Neon's being added, untill the Enamel burnt off the Coils... This alone speaks volumes to a sane mind MilleHehehehe

So youre are full of it!!! Dont talk crap!!!!


@Bill - Nice video!!! Thats a Thumbs Up from me!


@MilleHehehehe - Again.

OU.com has seen more OU successes since I came back here than ever before! People are understanding "How" to invoke Electricity on the terminals of their coils now. Its still something you have light years of study to understand, even after I have done all the hard work for you!

I never proclaimed to know everything like you do MilleHehehehe!!! In-fact, I openly admit that I learn new things all the time, not to admit it is just arrogant isnt it?

Old mate, youre out of your depth as soon as you get up in the morning, thats the sad thing!

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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1430 on: April 06, 2016, 09:32:47 AM »
Hehehehe my ass.  You are as fake as a three-dollar bill.

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1431 on: April 06, 2016, 09:49:42 AM »
Hehehehe my ass.  You are as fake as a three-dollar bill.



Hahaha - MilleHehehe - Joke is on you old mate.

Always is and always will be!

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1432 on: April 06, 2016, 09:56:10 AM »




Actually, looking at TinselKoala's Channel, the Circuit I posted, that TK built, still remains the best Input to Neon Light experiment he has ever done! Infact, it kept producing light, with more Neon's being added, untill the Enamel burnt off the Coils... This alone speaks volumes to a sane mind MilleHehehehe



Lie about your own "work" all you like, but DO NOT misrepresent what I've done. Leave me out of your delusions.

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1433 on: April 06, 2016, 10:09:29 AM »
Lie about your own "work" all you like, but DO NOT misrepresent what I've done. Leave me out of your delusions.



It’s no lie TK, still to this day, for the input to the output, the Circuit I gave you, is by far the best Neon Light Show you have done - That’s no lie at all!

I even provide your channel link for others to see for themselves: https://www.youtube.com/user/TinselKoala/videos

Should we compare, around 3 times better that your magical: Extreme High Voltage: TinselKoil 8: Bipolar Slayer Success !

Let’s talk about Miss-Interpret shall we, seems this is what you do best. The QEG is one example, your videos show a very poor maturity, for a person of the stature you try to proclaim, especially when you clearly do not understand what it is that you’re talking about!

Then when given the opportunity to build with help, you turn it down? Scared of something TK?

In-fact, the very Electrical Energy you use in the expert work you self-proclaim, you have no idea at all how and where it comes from! This is the biggest joke, professionals that have no idea, at all, how and where the very thing they are professionals at, comes from...


I know that the word "Succeed" is not in your nature, its "give-up" and "explain away" at all costs!!! Nothing to see here, just "Swamp Gas", or another good one is "Weather Balloon", isn’t it TK.


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EMJunkie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1434 on: April 06, 2016, 10:54:42 AM »

TK you still to this day can not explain where and how the 3.3KV Spikes came from?


Misc. Circuits: EMJ-Meyer Circuit Demo

I quote: "Gee, when I did this before it was Chattering and Buzzing...there was quite a bit of change in the noise"

Misc. Circuits: TKs EMJ-Meyer Build Demo 2 -- HV Adverse Event!


Most all Inductive collapse will be around the region of 200 - 1000V.

Again, it was not properly investigated. Imagine the result if the wave was not Square like I did bring up at the time!

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1435 on: April 06, 2016, 11:23:52 AM »
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Stop the stupid shtick that you are copying from Brad.

Cut your shit out MH.
I called a truce,and you continue to belittle me--even though you are the one that is continually wrong,and i am the one continually correcting you on your mistakes-time after time. The only time you are right,is when you are riding on the back of those like PW--you have no spine of your own.

Quote me: Why not just use a J/FET,and have a high winding ration between the primary and secondary,where the(high turn) secondary would turn the J/FET off.

Your response : Yeah well I would have to say that that doesn't make any sense at all.  But don't let that stop you since this whole thread is filled with nonsensical statements by you and just about nobody says anything about it.

SeaMonkey's response : Miles, you may wish to examine the attached document.

Your response :Incidentally, I don't think I have ever seen any "experimenter participation" from you.  So I suppose that we are both in the "same boat" for that.

but there is a big difference between you and SeaMonkey-->he knows what he is talking about,and dose not engage his mouth before his mine-like you do,and have done on several occasions now in this thread.

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Remember when you had a meltdown when you were asked a ridiculously simple question about a coil that you could not answer and MarkE stepped in and answered it for you?  After months of blabbing all about coils?

This coming from you is comical,as you never answer your own question's.

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You are the one that is out of your depth and the best you have been able to do for the past few months is to keep on bumping up your long-dead thread.

Your full bottles on something you have not even tried your self. Oh we all know--the answers are all in the book's-right :D. Who needs to experiment ::).

 
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You have a long way to go if you are truly interested in electronics.  You quote serious EM stuff and then try to apply it to your nonsensical "partnered output coils."  You revealed your "big demo experiment" of the "partnered coils secret sauce" and it was an under-unity joke showing that you had no clue how to make measurements.  Again, you clearly have a long way to go.

Once again-comical coming from some one that has no idea as to where resonant systems exist.
You say that EMJ has a long way to go in electronic's?,well i think we all do,but you have to stop and ask your self MH--how far do you have to go?. One would think that some one that dose not know that a J/FET needs no gate voltage to conduct,indeed has a long way to go. How is it that i knew the working's of a J/FET,and he who wishes to judge(that be you MH) others guru status in electronics ,has no idea him self.

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So stop playing games like a clown.  You make an incorrect statement and I corrected you because this stuff is important so I advised you to go back and read what PW said again.

You love to correct people on there mistakes MH,but you hate being corrected on your's.
The truth is,that this thread has shown how little you really know,and how !in no way,shape or form! are you fit to judge or correct anyone here.

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Now be a man and review the material that PW posted and master it so that you can do better experiments.

And there is the pot calling the kettle black ::)

 
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You need to understand when and where to consider looking at the frequency domain when you want to understand and analyze what a circuit is doing and how it works.  I don't believe you have that skill set right now and John even mentioned way back when that you chose to ignore this important subject matter.

You are truly full of shit MH,as you have no idea on the subject matter your self. Never a mention until PW mentioned it,and then you just jump on the band wagon--trying to make your self look good.


You made claims that no resonant systems existed in or around the ICE-I, and many others proved you wrong.
Then your second attempt-there is no resonance with the piston it self-Once again,i proved you wrong.
Then your quick smart ass comment about my statement of using a J/FET--a clear indication and admittance by your self that you did not know the simple operation of a very commonly used electronic component. You were just itching to have another go at me,and once again you had to eat a big mouthful of humble pie.

The fact is MH,you do not have the right,status,or smarts to be judging anyone here on this thread.

Dont worry about posting your new found theory on resonance,as the question has been answered many time correctly here on this thread,and no one is going to take some one that dose not know what a J/FET is- seriously.

Best you go stick your face back into those books of yesty year--oh and look up J/FET while your at it.

You keep going at me MH,and i will keep burying you in your own rubbish,bullshit, and mistakes.


Brad
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EMJunkie

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1436 on: April 06, 2016, 11:34:30 AM »


Hey that’s the way I see it too!!!


MH time to hang up those Holey Trolly Shoes, and MilleHehehehehehehehehe all the way to town!!! Get a real job - Hahahahaha


I would suggest maybe Sewage Maintenance Technician might best fit your personality!!!

Eewh, how much maintenance can there be in Sewage??? Let us know MH!!! Wont you?

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P.S: more than an hour later I am still ROFLMAO!!!

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1437 on: April 06, 2016, 02:06:34 PM »
Indeed, but for what test is this 1MHz used for? The other test condition is a reverse voltage of 4V. Why would they do that? Why, to test CT of course.
Any assumption that the 1N4007 is suited for use at 1MHz is incorrect. It is a line frequency device. If you want a faster version, try the UF4007. It has only a slightly lower capacitance under the same test conditions, but its Trr is much faster.

As PW is saying, the frequency has little to do with how fast a device can switch. The real question is how fast can the device switch at the transition points? A 1N4007 with a 10Hz square wave (but with 10ns rise and fall times) is still not going to switch very fast from ON to OFF and back to ON, because it is limited by its own finite switching speed. Relative to the period of a 10Hz square wave, yes the 1N4007 will switch pretty fast, but relative to the rise and fall times at the transition points of this same 10Hz square wave, its switching time is comparatively slow.

The frequency will eventually catch up and become the limiting factor for all switching devices. If for eg, a diode requires 2us to recover (Trr), then the maximum frequency one should expect for it to fully switch would be about 250kHz (50% duty), but you are not going to see a nice square wave on its output; it will be somewhat sinusoidal.

  :-X

Thank you Poynt for clearing that up.

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The again, what do I know, and why am I posting?

Do not confuse a sincere question with something some one believes in,and standing firm on that belief. Just because we may not agree on some thing's,dose not mean that i do not appreciate your input or help.

I know we did not see eye to eye on the thread involving the effects the rotor with PM's in it,had on the efficiency of the fixed frequency coil--with and without the rotor,but maybe you might like to take a look over at the mechanical resonance thread. In the next couple of day's,i will show you what was happening within that rotor/coil setup,and maybe we can see what really was taking place in that other system. Maybe nothing new to you,and maybe you could shed some light on it. But i found it most interesting,and a clear difference between having an oscillating magnetic field,and not having one. Im not quite sure what to make of it,but you may know straight up.


Brad

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1438 on: April 06, 2016, 05:44:19 PM »
Brad:

You have been treated normally by me and called out on your misconceptions, mistakes, and wonky beliefs and for once you are not being given a "special pass."  Naturally you are upset, welcome to the real world.  Your attack strategy against me is to just go on and on about my mistakes to the point of absurdity.  I am willing to admit when I make a mistake.  You can't do that, you can't actually admit when you have made a mistake, and that is completely absurd.  You can sit in the frying pan as long as you want.

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The only time you are right,is when you are riding on the back of those like PW--you have no spine of your own.

That's an example of you taking your attack to the point of complete absurdity.  And EMJunkie decided that he would copy you.  You are being given the straight goods by me, because I have a spine.

The most recent example is you milking the JFet business.  I admitted that I was wrong.  A JFET is NOT a common component like you stated.  You will do anything and say anything in a vain attempt to try to make a point to the point of absurdity.

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This coming from you is comical,as you never answer your own question's.

I answer my questions and the wine glass questions that you can't answer will be answered next week.  And there is no fucking apostrophe in "questions."  Demonstrate that you can learn something.

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How is it that i knew the working's of a J/FET,and he who wishes to judge(that be you MH) others guru status in electronics ,has no idea him self.

The answer is simple.  You looked up a JFET recently and I haven't thought about one for 35 years since I last sat through that material in an electronics class.

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You love to correct people on there mistakes MH,but you hate being corrected on your's.

Bullshit, I don't mind being corrected at all.  You are the one that has that problem because you can't admit that you are wrong.  You have a mental block.  And there is no fucking apostrophe in "yours."  Demonstrate that you can learn something.

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You are truly full of shit MH,as you have no idea on the subject matter your self. Never a mention until PW mentioned it,and then you just jump on the band wagon--trying to make your self look good.

You can kiss my ass with your bullshit statement about me not knowing about the frequency domain.  You are such a pathetic liar sometimes, it's totally grotesque to read your stupid-ass trash.  I have been discussing issues related to the frequency domain ever since I have been around here and just about everybody knows that - and you damn well know it's true.  You make yourself look horrible, like some sleazy low-life spin doctor.

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You made claims that no resonant systems existed in or around the ICE-I, and many others proved you wrong.

The main operation on an ICE is a synchronous machine and has nothing whatsoever to do with resonance.  The fact that the air intake and outlets make use of Helmholtz resonators is a distant secondary consideration and I admitted that I was ignorant of that fact.  Spin doctor away.

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Then your second attempt-there is no resonance with the piston it self-Once again,i proved you wrong.

Bullshit you proved me wrong.  Screw you with your Brad's Bizarro World of anti-logic.  You linked to a book that said resonance in the combustion chamber is undesirable and bad for the engine.  Your link backfired on you.  You said you would find a link to back up your claim and you have not delivered on that.

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The fact is MH,you do not have the right,status,or smarts to be judging anyone here on this thread.

Kiss my ass Brad with your stupid-ass gratuitous nonsense.  For the past five years you have been claiming that I am one of the "big guns" and you are clearly demonstrating how low you can go and how deeply you can compromise your integrity.

The fact is that you have no problems turning bad and going completely morally bankrupt and making a spectacle of yourself.

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You keep going at me MH,and i will keep burying you in your own rubbish,bullshit, and mistakes.

You have buried yourself into your own deep dark chasm, you are one creepy dude that can't handle things and you lose your composure and throw away all of your personal integrity.

The wine glass questions about resonance that you can't answer will be answered next week.

MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #1439 on: April 06, 2016, 05:53:33 PM »
OK TINMAN AND MICROmLOW CAN WE MOVE AWAY FROM THE meckano and lego toys now please , move forward to discover FREE ENERGY PLEASE,,,,,, ;)