@jarado
    hi . My point on the jt was to show that a NORMAL jt can Charge an ultraboostcap to over unity . Now you dont Have to use my circuit to charge one . My output on the standard JT after one diode @THE cCE JUNCTION is 14 volts @ 5.6ma . this can be made 100% better using bigger toroids better transistors and better tuning . I have not even had the interest to unpack my 200mzh digital storage scope because I'm too busy experimenting . I could care less you know what the "theory is . My point in saying OU . is the fact that we can start with a small AA battery and  Store very large amounts of energy that can be released SSSllloooooly Unlike a regular capacitor that just throw all its energy out in a second . i have run JTs and light for weeks off a charge  boostcap you cant do that with an electrolytic cap. how can anyone disagree that anY amount of power above the initial power source is NOT OU ? . . .

I think we're banging the same drum.   I believe your intention is to run the circuit with a boostcap and charge a boostcap.  ( I share this sentiment, and it will most definitely prove your point )  If this is wrong, then perhaps it's just a fleeting thought and I should be corrected.

If at all possible, with my limited resources, I have attempted to replicate the circuit without the ultracaps, and I can see that this is being dissuaded, as it seems to be the modus operandi/crux of the circuit to use one - even though you want to discharge the cap slowly.

One of the peculiarities of these particular capacitors it they bleed over time - in the specifications it is noted to bleed 1.5ma - considering the low usage of milliamps from the circuit, this can be quite 'expensive'.

MY intentions on the test are a parallel but not necessarily a complement. on a Boostcap/ultracap to Boostcap/ultracap attempt, the idea is to use two like sources to charge and discharge - which is what I've done with rechargeable batteries instead.

Due to their peculiarities as batteries they seems to have greater tolerance for voltage spikes.  This is something I worry about in high end ultracaps as voltage spikes can damage the dielectric and make them more prone to bleeding.

Despite these differences, I've shown, with minimal data that your circuit does seem to perform as stated.  On the other hand, the math discussed here is also correct with regard to how much the ultracap is capable of holding vs how much is in a battery.  Due to the convoluted nature of batteries, I've chosen to stick with them, not because they're convoluted, but because that's all that I've got.

In the experiment that I performed, my source battery drained 0.012v and the charged battery gained 0.109v which was indeed disproportional!  This is how I confirm the 'Theory' of it's operation.  Over a period of 45 minutes, the battery charged, reached its peak operating voltage, and then came back to rest from 1.271v to 1.091v from its initial state of 0.988v.

Please don't let the tone of my postings confuse you.  I am not against this.

I'm going to make a few comments about the circuit posted in the official entry; If any of my claims are incorrect, please make some indication.

*edit ... This may be a shorter brain fart than warranted...( this is off topic from the post, so, I removed the tail end of this post and placed it int the common joule thief thread ).

well j

look me up ...  300 years from now when there able to handle and respect ..

things like a jt powering neo zap going nano peizeo .. 

ill gladly help ya ..

w814

once they candle this ill teach transmitting and recieving sclar ...

or one could say Q comm

btw all are welcome to add to the real truth ...   baby steps tho .... 

1000 lives has made me colder ...  but that is what teaches you what LOVE IS!

fact....... right now the world only knows what love isint!  thats a fact!  look around you ...... 

you ignored love indoulged in hate ... hence wars .. past events and such ... basically ignored mother nature.. ..its ok its a silly you.... common human mistake that happins over and over .. and over ...  EXACTALLY HOW MY MACHINE WORKS...    a cycle that repets ...

same thing with earth ... you graduate ... and a new culture is born...  get it .. 

you dont graduate ... it turns into an astroide belt ....  look at the remains of the past one ...

 

oooooo boy......

ATT.  put on your seat belt the ultra cap bus it about to aproch the speed of light ... 

ist!

great gadget! 

 

gadget since you have this i will un wind the 808 COIL...   and wind on the convertor...  i wont test and tune ... we can do that in pratical expairments ..

i will do this insted of  drawing as i got no paper ...   1 dc pulse coil ...  1 bifillar secondary = 2 output.. dc to ac..  bang at 60hz dc ... output ac  this must be back wound ...  ill do it and show ya..

 

this can go on right after the can ..  in a step up system ...  ic freq conversion device...  jt is running really fast stage 2 slower ...  we can even add a 3rd stage for it to remain a constant even feed.... 

stairway to heaven É  hummmmm

ra!   did you find your desert glass yet É 

i beleave i set gadget up with the supplyer

and he has got the exact same one as i have tested ..

so yes i think gadget will sell them    for the company...

ist!

the core is 10000u W material ..  should be well suited ... 

i bet we pull some WWWW  waves off it 

Gadget:

Thank you very much.  That is great.

Bill

With that perm you should get some serious vvvooollltttsss !!!

All,

Here is my big core. It will be used in another project but will be tested
in a JT when I'm done testing the other project. Now I have to wind some
wire onto that core. :-)

Groundloop.