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Author Topic: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!  (Read 373060 times)

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #720 on: July 29, 2010, 07:24:04 PM »
Uh oh....

I am working 2 mag amps with an iron core and stranded copper core. I am winding the 3 control coils all that way around(this gives a solid toroid field) and overlapping instead of 3 segments. This still flips domains, controls bloch wall, cancels flux.
The leads coming off the collector are 2 inches apart.
All silicon is in and on the bench. I use JK flipflop with !Q pointed back to reset for fast cmos switching.
Design documents are also on the bench.
I have to finish winding my 2 coil then prototype the driver.
All electronics will sit in center and are battery driven.

Tube based JK flip flop... Looks like a mag amp setup, no? Hmmm. 2 magamps throttling back and forth. Thumping? Hmmm. And then out to 2 larger rings thumping up and down. Oh, what wonderous field activity!

Anybody else?

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #722 on: August 06, 2010, 04:27:28 AM »
Here ya go pretty coils straight from the bedside: go to downloads and look for gk1-gk27
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=406
You still have to work.

The big chips are 'break before make' when the address lines change. Try a JK flipflop with the !Q tied to CLR then clock it. Very high speed. That is the big secret. Floating ground, floating fets(IRF840), low current, controls all the way around(snake biting its tail).

The fet driver chip is a p605. The clock chip could be a 4 bit binary out. Look at the truth table. 1 line then 2 lines are on at the same time then 1 line.
There is also a funny looking switch in the circuit. I have used a fet. It is in the feedback loop internal to the ckt itself.
All cmos for 9v bat operation in center.
Notice no caps on the coils? That is where we come in and what about the magamp? Iron centers. Color picture posted previous. I have this build 80% done. I prototype now.

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sorry not so great news in the call, not what you wanted to hear.

here are all the scans.

to recap
for 8" to 15" base freq ~ 1.4khz - 3.2khz
freq 2 = base x 2.1 +/-
freq 3 = base x 3.2 +/-

driver2.jpg was my preliminary interpretation

some comments.
important to have the collector outputs around 1-2" separated, not together.
wind a / b / c with same # of turns on top of each other
lowest wind (closest to collector) uses slowest freq
the control coils should be wound over top and into middle (winding direction) clockwise
the control coils should meet in the middle between the collector outputs, and be brought into the middle (not come outside)
all the electronics should be housed inside the torroid (not outside)
use tinned stranded insulated wire
fine tune 2nd, for max output, then 3rd for max output then repeat (for max output)
more collector turns for more voltage

sometimes a build would not work, so start again
found older wire (some corrosion) would work better

use a outer circumference wind to stablize electronics ground (notice the 2 grounds mentioned in diagrams) float gnd
2 grounds (9v battery) plus the outer wind ground

lots of buffers everywhere.

too many stories to tell (12 or so meetings over 12 months, sometimes 4 months of no contact)

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I figured out what the second set of windings in the drawing is for. If you remember what "S" said, part of the output from the collector was wrapped around all the control coils together as a magnetic bias that helped to intensify the effect - the "furnace that feeds itself". I also noticed that one of the collector rings didn't appear to be attached to anything but the VCC source. Perhaps it's functioning as some sort of potential bias?

Also, I studied the pictures containing the big ICs with the resistors and stuff on them. I looked up the 4009 and it is a Hex Inverter IC. If you look above it in the picture where he has all those resistors tied to inputs and outputs, it looks like the things on the left are actually electrolytic capacitors. He is using the RC values probably to male an oscillator to generate one frequency for each channel. It looks like he has three of those ICs there which create pulses for the three channels (you can see them labeled A, B, and C). So by controlling all of the RC constants, you can effectively make both a digital oscillator for the frequency and a delay line setup to control the pulse width. I haven't studied the circuit in as much detail as I will later but those are my initial impressions from the drawings he gave.

That's my thoughts for now. This is making more sense by the day :-). Also, I checked my rat shack coil spools (the pack you can get that has a red, green, and black set of wire). They are definitely tin plated!

Rat shack arent plated anymore.
I got mine from http://stores.sacelec.com/sacramentoelectronics/ search for wh22-

Look at the TPU this way:
All who know are under NDAs. How do they get it out? Recruit somebody who has a clue, who can be shown with out mentioning vital terms and then the recruit takes it from there. Might the recruit be you?
Could be my last build. I am not saying anybody has to follow. I just give

« Last Edit: August 06, 2010, 05:24:11 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #723 on: August 06, 2010, 07:50:55 AM »
cut and paste?

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #724 on: August 06, 2010, 03:07:35 PM »
Here ya go pretty coils straight from the bedside: go to downloads and look for gk1-gk27
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=406
You still have to work.

The big chips are 'break before make' when the address lines change. Try a JK flipflop with the !Q tied to CLR then clock it. Very high speed. That is the big secret. Floating ground, floating fets(IRF840), low current, controls all the way around(snake biting its tail).

The fet driver chip is a p605. The clock chip could be a 4 bit binary out. Look at the truth table. 1 line then 2 lines are on at the same time then 1 line.
There is also a funny looking switch in the circuit. I have used a fet. It is in the feedback loop internal to the ckt itself.
All cmos for 9v bat operation in center.
Notice no caps on the coils? That is where we come in and what about the magamp? Iron centers. Color picture posted previous. I have this build 80% done. I prototype now.

Rat shack arent plated anymore.
I got mine from http://stores.sacelec.com/sacramentoelectronics/ search for wh22-

Look at the TPU this way:
All who know are under NDAs. How do they get it out? Recruit somebody who has a clue, who can be shown with out mentioning vital terms and then the recruit takes it from there. Might the recruit be you?
Could be my last build. I am not saying anybody has to follow. I just give

You should not believe everything people say.  You should perform simple experiments before building full-blown devices.  Otherwise, you waste a lot of time and money, and get no where.

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #725 on: August 06, 2010, 06:25:59 PM »
Field within a field within a field.

Simplest of explainations.

Who's time, money and destination?


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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #726 on: August 06, 2010, 07:11:09 PM »
You should not believe everything people say.  You should perform simple experiments before building full-blown devices.  Otherwise, you waste a lot of time and money, and get no where.

You should not believe anything sigma16 says.  Disinfo agent.  Troll.  Joined July 29th, 2010.  sigma16 has only posted negative crap on TPU threads.   Are you being paid sickma or is your sole purpose in life to stomp on other people's hopes for a better world?

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #727 on: August 06, 2010, 07:33:22 PM »
You should not believe anything sigma16 says.  Disinfo agent.  Troll.  Joined July 29th, 2010.  sigma16 has only posted negative crap on TPU threads.   Are you being paid sickma or is your sole purpose in life to stomp on other people's hopes for a better world?

Yes.  You should all follow the idiot with the Golden Gate Bridge in his TPU and 3 posts, who registered July 20, 2010.

Go back to the trailer park, Looooser!



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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #729 on: August 07, 2010, 08:31:32 PM »
I pulled them into GIMP and cameoed them. The chips are CMOs. THe mux input lines are hild high by 10k and there is a 1uf cap for noise reduction. Follow the lines on the buffer chips and you see a mobius type wiring going on to the coils. The circuit has been reverse engineered 3 ways. The 8 to 1 muxes, then 2 to 1 x 3 muxes, then the jk flip flop !q to clr. This gives the high speed low current hit to the coil. The clocking is still under scrutiny but I feel it is a 4 bit output hidden the in box drawing. Granted this process can be done in other ways. I believe I was shown this in the way I would latch onto. And I have. This is still a Rubik's cube to a finite solution. But like I said all the pieces of the process are embedded in this design. Am I saying this while untested? Yes. The functioning is really apparent and I have seen and done these things in other places and ways.

Take the cameoed drawings and remark the lines with a sharpy. Other things should jump out at you if you know digital logic. The muxes are analog through put addressed by digital logic. Some of the 4009 buffers are really 4010s, inverting non-inverting.

GK, Very Interesting, but those prints are tough to read/figure.

(I am curious as to their source, but will not ask and request no answer be given, either way.   There is something strange there.....  Familar writing?)

I will be very interested in any results.  I never made multiple layers on multiple coils, but have tried Multiple layers on a single coil.  The results were posted here, and looked interesting, but I got no further.  I hope you can!

Good Luck, and I really appreciate the data.

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #730 on: August 07, 2010, 10:54:19 PM »
Cmos is voltage potential(fets), TTL  is current(transistors).
Just get the idea of high speed like Earl was pushing before.

Spark gap based devices don't have to ramp up. This circuit is a virtual spark gap that creates light potential switching to set the process going and it ramps up. The ramp up is the resonance building. We push the swing at the correct time. Pretty simple actually. When the swinger crosses the mid point is where the most potential is.

Yeah, muxes for short. The ones I found worked bi directional through the analog path.

And circuit shown was not using the Mux part at all, just the break before make part. All input lines are tied high. :P
Only the obvious lines are drawn. No clutter.

And let me reiterate. What the ckt shows is:
+9volt,
High speed switching,
Floating ground(this is part of the feedback loop)
Circuit in center,
battery operation shows float process,
Snake bites it tail(push the swing at this point),
field within a field,
low current,
resonance building(ramp up),
Feedback(circuit within circuit, Resonance, ring operation back to circuit(MOBIUS on a 4d scale))

Now get all these mechanics in place and tweek the operation to perfect the whole process.
The frequencies are close to the circumference which enables a field to push. Same process as Don Smith's ac pump charging the supply battery using the dc magnetic field of the supply line. 8)

There are just too many items in place at this juncture. It is what I have been watching for. The examples match up with the learning which match up to the realization. Now the operation based on the process will prove out.

If anybody disagrees then by all means let me know?!?!?!!? Newbies might be in a quandry. But the old heads can surely see the implications.

@Grumpy,
I will try one layer at a time. I was just posting the whole 'Kit -n- kabootle' 8)

Testing will be on the ring mounted vertical.  I suggest anybody else do the same for starters. Its not what you think. 8)

GK, Thanks!!!   I think I am getting it.  I think you mean De-Mux's...

Interesting that this goes way back to the "Original" circuits I used for my first try's, though mine were TTL and my "Driver" section stunk.  This IS a great way to line up and sync multiple outputs, very cleanly.  I really wonder what this would/could do, built in CMOS and allowed to float up via non-grounded battery power.   Hmmmmm......   

Rats, now you have got that little curious part of my mind working, that won't leave me alone till I try.  I'll probably go 3 to 8 line and see what happens, as digital logic and counter response WAS my original job description, before LSI became popular.  This will take a while.  (Note: old school shortcut...  If the entire "Bus" in connected, then aligning the chips on the drawing doesn't require drawing all the lines.  Just assume they are all in use.  If not all are in use, the some draw just the "Last" one, and the assumption is beginning to drawn.  Just a comment.)
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« Reply #731 on: August 08, 2010, 03:50:09 AM »
Wind up a big solenoid coil with 2000 feet or more. HT mag wire.  Insulation looks like bronze.  28 awg is good.  Doesn't really matter.  Use a hollow insulator material for the core or no core if you pot it somehow.

Hit this coil with a few KVDC (at least 2kv), through a spark gap pulse circuit.  This is just a test, so you don't need a full blown build.

Set this up and you are at step one.

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #732 on: August 08, 2010, 05:05:35 AM »
This sounds like a stun gun to the secondary of an ignition coil if the 2kv does have current. Maintain the outer spark gap of the gun. oops. The ignition coil is not air core though. Could use a ratshack spool? Stacked 4 high to get the turns.

Wind up a big solenoid coil with 2000 feet or more. HT mag wire.  Insulation looks like bronze.  28 awg is good.  Doesn't really matter.  Use a hollow insulator material for the core or no core if you pot it somehow.

Hit this coil with a few KVDC (at least 2kv), through a spark gap pulse circuit.  This is just a test, so you don't need a full blown build.

Set this up and you are at step one.
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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #733 on: August 08, 2010, 05:58:38 AM »
No  need to go back to banging coils its been done for yeas now nothing good came of it. A single fet low powered driving 3 phase WYE can produce several KVARs for a few watts drive.  You don't HAVE to use magamps but if you do no need to use a fet and it makes the device immune (till lightning strikes anyway)  from power surges.

Only copper wires required no special cocktails of silver and iron wire required.

In order to create the desired circuit we need to produce NEGATIVE inductors. We all heard about negative resistors but the key here is negative inductors and because we must CANCEL out  the magnetic fields as much as possible in the circuit, there by keeping the total inductance of the circuit negative. We do this by creating VARS as this disturbs the ambient but there is no current flowing as there No in phase amps. If there is no amps there is no current flowing and no Lenze. If you bang the coils you create current and a magnetic field. Everything must be done in complete opposite.

A bifilar coil cancels out magnetic flux but so does polyphase system as power factor is slashed.

 BUT everything else is happening the space is now highly energized as electrostatic field its pumping longitudinal waves. The i/p power may only be watts but there is several KVARs in circulation. Now there is Kinetic Energy.

As Don Smith stuff = Low power precursor (a few real watts) convert to VAR = Kinetic Energy = Device rating 50KVARS+ convert to magnetic as two converging electrostatic fields = real WATTS o/p.

Or RE = RF through RLC where OU derived from RE transformations of one energy type to another.

In the case of TPU 3 phase negative inductors create rotational electrostatic stress and not magnetic to begin the process and stores a negative energy charge in a space where the relative magnetic field appears, and as a counteraction, the inductors generates an electric power with a positive energy. The free electrons from the VARS field got  kinetic energy from a space as accelerating returns the kinetic energy to the space becomes deceleration.

The negative inductances  of the negative 3 phase inductors is proportional albeit non linear to the product of the rate of change of the relative magnetic fluxes impinging on the coils and the number of turns of the coil, like that of a NORMAL inductors but in reverse.  By raising the voltage applied either side of the exciter collector coils  the total number of the relative magnetic fluxes impinging on the WYE inductors can be increased. So the TPU is a sandwich where we have rotating electrostatics (Not magnetic to begin with otherwise you need current and 100 watts of coil banging only gives you a headaches and eats the power supply) where a HV positive and negative DC charge is applied. While the atomic level dynamics drops the heat out of the device the rotational electrostatic fields create eddy current when driving a real load as now we have REAL amps flowing. Note electrostatic does not mean DC static from my standpoint but much closer related to RF where the nodes are either Zero or Max and not NULL. Null means nothing so bad use for this.

 The device is vertically polarized from this charge as the ambient is polarized from earth to space.

In kapanadze the process is actually very similar but instead of 3 phase he using single phase 50Hz as the negative inductor is a VARS tank. In fact its a tube homo-polar transformer where the PF = ZERO or VSWR infinity so its an electrostatic device to begin with not magnetic. The HT DC charge is applied between the inner and outer non magnetic tube copper will work fine. OR it can be separate layer windings.  Whatever method is chosen its important the MASS is identical between the inner and outer layers. (close as practical)

 Now the conditions are SET they need moving side to side to induce a REAL current with amps and volts in phase. So the 50 Hz push pull sine wave driver modulates the HV so the action is a side to side motion of two interactive electrostatic layers. The coil becomes a NEGATIVE inductor and so the normal entropy bell ringing to loss becomes GAINS of increasing magnitude while taking up ambient atomic thermal heat energy drops the inductor through its negative. With this is mind the spark gap only requires just enough to create an arc 2kv perhaps and hardly any current.

As Tesla said "Don't underestimate the force of electrostatics" .
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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #734 on: August 08, 2010, 06:19:16 AM »
Hi bolt, those are interesting thoughts. I was a couple days ago just thinking about bifilar coil and why could we not somehow induce energy into another coil from the interplay of the so called canceling fields, though it sure sounds like your saying the fields under a certain condition can generate power for us. That rings true to me.
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