Author Topic: New invention of motion less generation of electric power (Read 350959 times)

Nihilanth · « **Reply #420 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:18:36 AM »

Quote from: gravityblock on November 23, 2009, 11:50:03 PM

In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-dbGUcnFaI&feature=channel , you can see the magnetic monopoles when the lines of flux are disconnected from each other.

Those aren't monopoles.

Quote from: winsonali on November 24, 2009, 02:43:16 AM

when a radio starts transmission at 5 watt its power doesn't change no matter how many receiver starts receiving the signal.

One could use a single tuning fork to resonate with multiple other tuning forks, getting the same output for however many tuning forks there are. A bunch of PZT tuning forks would be a rather noisy overunity device.

teslaalset · « **Reply #421 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:40:01 AM »

Quote from: winsonali on November 24, 2009, 02:43:16 AM

for this purpose EE must be released from its active zone to passive zone where it can move freely and then recaptured in active zones on multiple channels this will give us extra power generation then input

Hi Ali, can you explain what you mean with 'release from its active zone to passive zone'?
Maybe you can give an example?

Thanks!

forest · « **Reply #422 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:59:53 AM »

for me it means - let it oscillate freely and take an effect on surrounding ambient in unconnected (to source ) receiver

gravityblock · « **Reply #423 on:** November 24, 2009, 10:25:42 AM »

Quote from: Nihilanth on November 24, 2009, 09:18:36 AM

Those aren't monopoles.

They are magnetic fields. You can clearly see the monopoles carrying the magnetic fields when they are reconnecting to each other. Just watch the two ends of the disconnected field lines connecting to each other, which connects the poles to form a dipole.

A dipole field is made up of two poles. A monopole field is made up of 1 pole. Where the field lines connect there is a zero point. The monopoles being this zero point and connecting the two fields together. I can show you a video of energy coming out of this zero point if you like. The energy that is released are the magnetic charges and are not electrical charges.

Monopoles can be viewed as magnetic charges which carries the magnetic fields and connects the poles together forming a dipole field.

Please send me a PM if you want to discuss this. I don't want to distract from the topic of this thread.

GB

jan.kolar · « **Reply #424 on:** November 24, 2009, 10:55:47 AM »

Quote from: winsonali on November 24, 2009, 02:43:16 AM

when a radio starts transmission at 5 watt its power doesn't change no matter how many receiver starts receiving the signal.

Ali, Ali you have not heard about law of energy conservation? Yes you can have 100s of receivers but signals on input antennas are very small typically microvolts. Also there is feedback between receiver and transmitter similar to coupling between secondary and primary side of transformer (Lenz law).

Regarding the so called magnetic monopoles i dont believe these are true monopoles. According to wikipedia article div B = 0 so classical theory is valid. Its similar to monopole in appearance but thats all not saying that this discovery was not confirmed by independent researchers. Popular press trying to attract readers.

winsonali · « **Reply #425 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:30:32 PM »

100 % agreed with micro volts at antenna

process of PM manufacturing is based on cooling the material slowly/naturally in magnetic environment
once it is cooled to ambient temperature that magnetic force remain there for years
very simple you cannot define the relationship between energy required to make a permanent magnet and force available through that magnet over the years how you will explain law of conservation of energy here.

lets take a look at ohms law:

V directly proportional to current
V=I R (R = ratio adjuster for proportionality)

now if something has constant resistance it will dissipate constant power in other words
if resistance is constant then power will be constant provided you are not changing voltage.

now
P=V*I
or v = P/I (remove the constant power)
V is inversely proportional to I

the above statement is true means how many calculations were wrong
mathematics is the poetry of science writing it correctly is an art

laws are man defined there could be flaws in them but they are mostly correct.

now this is my theory..
once any energy released from its active zone to its passive zone it moves freely and travel in all directions can be experienced equally in a certain area without losing its powers.

winsonali · « **Reply #426 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:32:58 PM »

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One could use a single tuning fork to resonate with multiple other tuning forks, getting the same output for however many tuning forks there are. A bunch of PZT tuning forks would be a rather noisy overunity device.

Nilihanth:

this is the most perfect example of forces behavior in passive medium.

winsonali · « **Reply #427 on:** November 24, 2009, 02:50:03 PM »

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Hi Ali, can you explain what you mean with 'release from its active zone to passive zone'?
Maybe you can give an example?

teslaaset:

active zone is the medium where you can apply effects by interfering and mixing of signals
for instant with gain control you can increase or decrease the power of a transmitter but once the energy released in passive zone you cannot do anything with it
in air infinite radio electromagnetic fields are present you can feel them but cannot alter them until and unless you capture them in active zone.

gravityblock · « **Reply #428 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:46:43 PM »

Quote from: jan.kolar on November 24, 2009, 10:55:47 AM

According to wikipedia article div B = 0 so classical theory is valid.

div B = 0 is derivable from the Biot-Savart's law.

If a true monopole exists, then div B is no longer zero and a Coulomb-like term would have to be added to Biot-Savart's law, but Biot-Savart's would still give the B field of a current.

The end results would be the same weather we account for the monopole or not in B-S law.

div b = 0 does not mean monopoles do not exist!

Nihilanth · « **Reply #429 on:** November 25, 2009, 03:13:46 AM »

Quote from: winsonali on November 24, 2009, 12:32:58 PM

this is the most perfect example of forces behavior in passive medium.

Thank you. Joke-devices aside, what exactly are you hinting at? Am I correct in assuming it has something to do with capacitor or inductor resonance?

gravityblock · « **Reply #430 on:** November 25, 2009, 04:56:29 AM »

I believe Ali is talking about extracting energy from the zero point field which will propagate through space and can be picked up by many receivers.

Electric charges follow the path of a wire which will always remain in the active zone.

Magnetic charges can enter the passive zone since they don't have to follow the conductor, they will follow the electromagnetic waves which propagate through space and can be picked up by many collectors in the passive zone to complete the energy transfer. As the receivers collect the magnetic charges, the magnetic charges will be replenished from the magnetic fields propagating through space without affecting the source since the source isn't using any net current. The source only requires a voltage to extract energy from the zero point field.

Please correct me where I am wrong Ali. I look forward to the video of your latest device.

exnihiloest · « **Reply #431 on:** November 25, 2009, 08:57:21 AM »

Quote from: winsonali on November 24, 2009, 12:30:32 PM

...
process of PM manufacturing is based on cooling the material slowly/naturally in magnetic environment
...

Bullshits.
PM are made at room temperature from magnetic materials placed in pulsed magnetic fields generated from coils powered with capacitors banks.

exnihiloest · « **Reply #432 on:** November 25, 2009, 09:40:35 AM »

Quote from: gravityblock on November 23, 2009, 11:50:03 PM

Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet for the first time, http://www.physorg.com/news171209923.html Also, according to the article they interact in the same way as electric charges.
...

There are serious doubts about this article. The extremity of a long solenoÃ¯d (L >> r) carrying a current is similar to a magnetic monopole. We can guess that pyrochlore-lattices provides such long chains. Without confirmations from independant teams we can discard this pseudo-discovery.

jan.kolar · « **Reply #433 on:** November 25, 2009, 10:00:10 AM »

Quote from: exnihiloest on November 25, 2009, 08:57:21 AM

Bullshits.
PM are made at room temperature from magnetic materials placed in pulsed magnetic fields generated from coils powered with capacitors banks.

Ali do you know what hysteresis curve is?

CompuTutor · « **Reply #434 on:** November 25, 2009, 02:45:14 PM »

Quote from: jan.kolar on November 24, 2009, 10:55:47 AM

Ali, Ali you have not heard about law of energy conservation? Yes you can have 100s of receivers but signals on input antennas are very small typically microvolts. Also there is feedback between receiver and transmitter similar to coupling between secondary and primary side of transformer (Lenz law).

If it was that easy,
then TV and radio would have viewer/listener meters
instead of nielson programming rating boxes...

I for one would gladly show them I block each and every commercial
so they would see that ancient business model doesn't work anymore
(No matter how much louder than the programming they make them!).

however sympathetic vibration is a huge deal with this whole thing.

Surely no one disagrees with that?

I mean, are we sure that Tesla wasn't simply setting up a sympathetic vibration with his amplifying tramsmitter so our enviroment (Earth/ionosphere) could easily tap what has always been there in the first place?

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Sits and awaits the flames from the usual Tesla nay-sayer's >

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