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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16600408 times)

dllabarre

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9615 on: December 10, 2011, 01:18:34 PM »

For anyone interested in making HV capacitors with reasonably high values and not spending a fortune on "store bought" units there is an easy way...

I purchased a few of the "roll up" snow sleds from Amazon ( 4-5 bucks each ) and use a heavy foil for the plates.   The dielectric constant is 4 using these and will handle up to 20kv.   It's quite simple to calculate the 2 plate cap to get within a few pf of what you need.   As an example I rolled one up with a 4" wide x 54" long plate and it came in at 5500pf and is very robust.   It's external size once rolled is about 3" diameter and 6" tall.   

I don't know of anywhere you can purchase a 5000 pf 20kv cap for less than 4 bucks...  I've been making them this way for a year or more with very good success with them.   Super easy to calculate and make.

Hello!
Can you please add amazon link for the "roll up" snow sleds.
Thanks

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.amazon.com/Pelican-Snow-Flite-Roll-Plastic/dp/B002QZ2Q86
or
http://www.amazon.com/Paricon-Flying-Carpet-Sled/dp/B004GF150Y/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_2

DonL


xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9616 on: December 10, 2011, 01:20:18 PM »

The sine wave is created due to the impedance of the load !?

The sine wave is created due to resonance condition of the oscillator part of the Kacher
and then transformed into the load circuit.

Would be interesting to know what frequency that sine has.
Will try to measure that later too.

energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9617 on: December 10, 2011, 01:41:27 PM »
sorry,  this forum might never get it...
delamorto - Stop misinforming people, connect a damn analogue wattmeter to the output, you will see you were being tricked.
this is not free energy people, you will realise very very soon.
If you keep buying into things that seems amusing at for first all you will get is frusttration at the end, have you not learned...


xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9618 on: December 10, 2011, 02:06:35 PM »
sorry,  this forum might never get it...
delamorto - Stop misinforming people, connect a damn analogue wattmeter to the output, you will see you were being tricked.
this is not free energy people, you will realise very very soon.
If you keep buying into things that seems amusing at for first all you will get is frusttration at the end, have you not learned...

Would you stop accusing Delamorto of "wanting to trick people", if you were kindly asked to ?

He does present his device openly and thereby risks also that it could turn out to be nothing special in regards to energy gain. It is a comparatively simple set-up, so everyone can verify for him/herself if there is excess power or not by replicating.
Power measurements will eventually be taken. Should someone be frustrated about possible underunity results,
then he should be aware that no-one put a gun to his head and forced him to replicate it.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9619 on: December 10, 2011, 02:21:07 PM »
sorry,  this forum might never get it...
delamorto - Stop misinforming people, connect a damn analogue wattmeter to the output, you will see you were being tricked.
this is not free energy people, you will realise very very soon.
If you keep buying into things that seems amusing at for first all you will get is frusttration at the end, have you not learned...

ОК, I is stopped. Do not want to mislead people.


P.S.
Admin delete my posts, it is the opinion of users - misinformation.


I'm tired of fighting with trolls

energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9620 on: December 10, 2011, 02:28:10 PM »
ОК, I is stopped. Do not want to mislead people.


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Admin delete my posts, it is the opinion of users - misinformation.


I'm tired of fighting with trolls
Are you scared of my little Warning to people?
you should have been putting up proper measurements by this time.

Kator01

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9621 on: December 10, 2011, 02:30:18 PM »
.....  Any mass (capacitance) will pull current through the bulb, all your really doing is matching the mass to create a potential difference. .....

...  Without being able to "pin down" the output there isn't any way to really tell if there is any magic going on or if it's simply an illusion of light...

Hello znel,

thank you for this detailed description. Referring to your first comment in the quote listed above, the following might fit which I found in the energeticforum.com posted by MonsieureM concerning mass-match:

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 Post von MonsieurM
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 Tesla matched the total weight of the primary and secondary windings so the two would be in a state of resonance[/font][/color]."[/font]
 
 So if I take it one step further and factor in 1/4 wave length I have:
 6 awg 79.65 lbs/1000 feet
 12 awg 19.8 lbs/1000 feet
 
 If I use 12 awg for secondary at 4 times length of primary = 19.8 x 4 = 79.2 lbs
 The total weight is the same and I create a 1/4 wave length effect.
 [/font]All in resonance.[/font]
So it would make sense to calculate the mass of the slit inner copper-cylinder adapting it to the mass ot the total secondary HV-coil and repeat the test with the copper-cylinder.

Now back to your last comment: I fully agree. So what I did in order to get a clear picture in another setup where I was testing the losses in a transductor-setup for regulating the power delivered to a 400 Watt halogen-light array:

I placed a photocell in a bigger plastic-cylinder at the botton covered with black paper, put a 500 K Resistor across the terminal of the photocell, so it was not running idle and directed the ligt-bulbs to this cell in a distance of about 1 meter. Measuring the photocell-voltage across the terminals has to be done in a dark room with only the light-bulbs to be tested switched on shining on the photocell.
Now I was able to compare two or more states of output power with a controlled input done with a variac adjusted to the exact voltage-reading I had with my device under test.
Power-measurement is now very exact as I use sinus power from the wall-outlet delivered to the variac.
In this way the maximum error is about 3 to 5 % since the variac accounts most for these losses.
I might be 10 % if the varaic is running idle but under load the losses in the variac decrease significantly.
This point is what verpies was taking about concerning the power-measurement error in the wesley-setup

Thanks again for your description

Kator01

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xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9622 on: December 10, 2011, 02:43:11 PM »
Are you scared of my little Warning to people?
you should have been putting up proper measurements by this time.

Good job! Now your earned yourself a little extra $$$ bonus from the agency ...
Happy?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9623 on: December 10, 2011, 02:48:28 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdsWHRWzYtg

You need capacitor in series to Tesla secondary coil before grounding. Closed loop kills dipole - in your case too.. :)

P.S> About copper pipe - you need to make folded plate from pipe what makes coil from it. Then you can attatch lightbulb and maybe grounding to this coil ends.

So now I do not know how to go on as I have TV flyback units...but I lack the old schematics hence not easy to locate the correct connections.
Roberto

 Please see first minutes of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jbUA6_10c for how everything is connected together.
 Good luck!
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9624 on: December 10, 2011, 02:53:06 PM »
 Everyone has their opinion and refuse to do it themselves. The first thing I would like to address is that as soon as you hook anything that we use currently for measurement it changes the whole unit's resonance. This is due to the delicate balance these circuits seem to have. As soon as you put the resistance in the circuit it unbalances the whole thing.


 The second thing is this, If you take the slayer exciter it is not the waves you want. The waves that are produced by a transistor are not true pulses. They are half cycles. This will never work. The ones who are doing spark gaps must also find a way to make them true one way pulses. As far as I know the only way to do that is to magnetically quench the spark gap.


 The final tip is this: using transformers to supply the exciter waves is very damaging to the coil if one does not use an oil filled transformer and it eats through the insulation. Sorry but you need a special oil filled transformer in order to make it short proof.


 So I'm guessing no one read the Tesla links I provided. Tesla goes through all of this already and teaches you how not to get the results you are seeing here.


 I also take specific note of the ones saying you've got nothing. Yet they want measurements knowing full well the devices we use for measurement pull anything you connect to them out of tolerance. Even if we did get one to work it would have to be part of the system forever. It has to be designed into them. In the case of analogue devices they would have to be oil filled to work without shorting out. Any coil exposed to the effect if it is not surrounded by oil will leak eventually and react to the environment via the atmosphere and burn the insulation.


 Also I highly suggest static shielding in these experiments. Leaks will kill all effects after the main coil. Just simple aluminum foil wrapped around the wires would work and connected to nothing. This method was tested by Tesla and he even used small pieces overlapped to get the right shielding effect. Tesla also talked about shielding the wires until you wanted to work with the energy or expose it to the environment or feed it to a device made to work with the signal.


 When you look at the special transformer that Tesla made with the bucking (normal coil) no core Bifilar overlap coils in series version he had to oil fill it and have special metal around the whole thing, this was also a static shield that contained the energy as well. In his investigation he didn't use it because he wanted to see the effects of a transformer like that not being shielded. He said it was ok to run without shielding but you get a little more bang for the buck when it is proper.

 What Tesla was doing was charging a cap bank to a very high value then dumping that charge across a spark gap and firing into one side of the two part coil wound in normal fashion but split in the middle and flipped so that they are bucking. This did two things. Only one half of the coil actually received the shot from the spark gap. Once that coil got to max it was inducing a reflection of itself + the original shot through it in the other half of the coil. This is like shooting a gun into the perfect spring mechanism. The Bifilar over wrap was merely a polar aligner and turned all induced voltages into the one way adding them together with all the ringing as well.

 Speaking about oil filled coils Tesla also tried using the spark gap as an oil filled device but it didn't work as well as the quenched gap.

 Tesla also talks about a device to detect the perfectly undamped(unaffected) waves. The bolometer. But it had to be improved by changing the detector part with a resistive mass very very small. He says a million times smaller then the bolometer had then he could even detect the disturbances from weather as well without blowing the meter. Heh Now thats sensitive!

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9625 on: December 10, 2011, 03:04:28 PM »
@ ronnote,

i had quite the same luck with mine NST. It was a battery operated 9KV 30mA, that worked splendind in running a Tesla coil. It was running at some 40 watts. Far better efficiency than a ignition coil and output.Till it died. I have paid some 60 dollars or so. after a research, i found out, that Tesla coilers use between their transformer and capacitors (either with FWBR or diode or without all those) CHOKES.

Imagine to burn a 10KW HV transformer due to this!  This is due to HV spikes of High frequency go back to transformer and are able to destroy it, whereas in low frequency it would not happen.
Chokes should be some 100-200 uH and able to handle some current without saturation. Many are using air core coils of equal inductance.
ps: nice vaccum variable capacitor :)

@ wattup,

Sorry about your second loss in a row, but you should really use HV high efficiency blocking capacitors to your hot lead. For added safety, use also blocking cap (e.g. 20 pf 30 KV) and the chokes inductors.
Care should be give when making them, in order windings not to have capacitative coupling between them. (spaced and if on a toroid, isolated since toroids are somewhat conductive)

@ energia,

Get a hold of yourself please. we have repeatedly told that 99,999% of the cases that they claim OU, its not. But this is a hobby site more or less. I have learn this the hard way in case (like me) you initially believed and spent considerable resources in replicating things..
...

Concerning sem77's case, i find interesting and educative his approach to Kachers. Especially in his last video, his Kacher even with a small ferrite (i assume 2000MM soviet type 8 or 10mm diamm) can run at 2+Mhz, and with great efficiency. I am not able at the moment to do that.. so I learn too :) ... sem77 keep going!

btw, i have ordered some vintage Soviet KT805AM transistors... :) i love vintage things!
« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 10:43:18 PM by baroutologos »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9626 on: December 10, 2011, 03:06:26 PM »
Hello,

there is one thing I have to add to my photocell-setup which applies only here:

The bulbs you use here under test in a photcell-arrangement must be covered on one side with an aluminium-foil which is painted with a heat resistant black-varnish on the outside. When one compares the light-intensitiy with a reference-sinus-power with this bulb you must measure the temperature on the black side of the foil, because incandescant bulbs dissipate more than 80 % as heat.
If you find during your tests with the Kacher-setup that the bulb stays cool on the black side of the foil then only the light-intensity accounts for the input-power of the kacher. Things then are more complicated but a clear indication that the Kacher spends - based on slayers input-data - 12 Watt for producing a cold light, so far from being efficient < 20 % )
Should the temperature match in both tests then there is hope.

@slayer : add controlled mass of diffrent areas and weight to your yellow clip dangling.

Kator01

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9627 on: December 10, 2011, 03:11:14 PM »
Hi Delamorto great work


Can you please show setup schematic from your last video so we can replicate?


Best Regards


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9628 on: December 10, 2011, 03:11:47 PM »
You people are constantly being fooled,  Lied to.. Daily... 
now i can see through all of these people like glass...

Can you see the truth?

dllabarre

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9629 on: December 10, 2011, 03:15:25 PM »
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