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FreeEnergyInfo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9645 on: December 10, 2011, 08:41:52 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9646 on: December 10, 2011, 08:45:26 PM »



@semenihin


I have a question on transistors regarding my replication


A while ago someone posted these would work as well as the 805.
Would these transistors work OK?

MJE15028Ghttp://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/MJE15028G/MJE15028GOS-ND/919489 
 or
MJE15030Ghttp://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/MJE15030G/MJE15030GOS-ND/919491


Thank you!
DonL

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9647 on: December 10, 2011, 09:27:56 PM »
connect a damn analogue wattmeter to the output, you will see you were being tricked.

...and don't forget about the input.
If you do not have a wattmeter, it's much much more accurate to use the improvised wattmeter shown below, than measure current (amps) and voltage (volts) with multimeters and stupidly multiplying their readings thinking that the result represents power (watts).
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/kapagen33pio.htm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9648 on: December 10, 2011, 09:34:25 PM »
About OU:
One indisputable proof of OU would be to loop back the output to run itself. 

As I said before:
Build  '2'  working units and have unit 1 run unit 2 then unit 2 should have no problem runing unit 1.

I have designed circuits on the circuit simulator that appear to put out much more then is put in.
But every time I try charging a capacitor with the output and then using it to run itself, it always fails. 

I use this simulator:

http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

It saves me a lot of money on burned out parts, because I can test them before building them.


verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9649 on: December 10, 2011, 09:51:42 PM »
Power-measurement is now very exact as I use sinus power from the wall-outlet delivered to the variac.

It risky to measure sinus voltage or current with multimeters if you do not know their specifications precisely, because depending on the internals of a meter the 50Hz 200V peak-peak sinewave will yield one of these readings:
100V
70.7V
63.6V

See the diagram below for an explanation why.

Only the 70.7V reading is meaningful for power calculations on resistive loads. 
1) When the load is not resistive, like an incandescent light bulb with non-coiled filament, the multimeter readings are useless.
2) For frequencies much higher than 50Hz, the current/voltage readings made by common multimeters are even more useless.
The combination of 1 and 2  is so useless that it deserves a separate profane epithet.

Thus, it is better to use DC current to calibrate the radiation of a light bulb.

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9650 on: December 10, 2011, 10:29:45 PM »
...amperage was some 40 watts.

No, not you too.
I assume you were just in a hurry...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9651 on: December 10, 2011, 10:40:51 PM »
@verpie,
Ops... my sincere apologies Sir! Of course wattage... :)

@all,

Yes, the devil is in the details after all. I assembled my Kacher, this time shorting the leads, as jimboot said. The closer you fetch the transistor to the coil, the higher the efficiency, and in my case it was just spectacular! this time at 25w (plus) kacher formulates a streamer too, that in no way i could do that before at same power level.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9652 on: December 10, 2011, 10:43:53 PM »
It risky to measure sinus voltage or current with multimeters if you do not know their specifications precisely, because depending on the internals of a meter the 50Hz 200V peak-peak sinewave will yield one of these readings:
100V
70.7V
63.6V

verpies,

I fully agree. I use this Hartmann & Braun Wattavi K - Meter ( 1980 ) which is the very accurate. Sorry, but the link below is a german website. It was build for direct measurement of real-power ( sinus based ). no calculation needed because of the measurement principle.
http://www.alte-messtechnik.de/hub/analog/watt/wattavi-k.htm.

Mesurement priciple figure 2 ( Abb,2)
http://www.alte-messtechnik.de/technik/elektrodynamisch.php

see additional attachments. on the top in the middle I have a mechanical power-meter for futher validation. Below you see my Grundig RT 5A, isolated variac-transformer
Sorry again, also in german language
http://www.amplifier.cd/Technische_Berichte/Amplifier_Trenntrafo/Trenntrafo.html

Any further suggestions to improve my power-measurement-techique ?

Regards

Kator01

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9653 on: December 10, 2011, 10:46:52 PM »
But every time I try charging a capacitor with the output and then using it to run itself, it always fails. 

Maybe, not always:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiaxDJuw4-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoEXCweMxhk

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9654 on: December 10, 2011, 10:52:35 PM »
baroutulogos,

can you share some details : number primary windings, diameter of the tube, transistor-type...
What leads did you short ? I see a spark jumping at the top lead.
Any mass-plate attached ? Frequency ?

Thank you

Kator01


@verpie,
Ops... my sincere apologies Sir! Of course wattage... :)

@all,

Yes, the devil is in the details after all. I assembled my Kacher, this time shorting the leads, as jimboot said. The closer you fetch the transistor to the coil, the higher the efficiency, and in my case it was just spectacular! this time at 25w (plus) kacher formulates a streamer too, that in no way i could do that before at same power level.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9655 on: December 10, 2011, 11:02:50 PM »
Any further suggestions to improve my power-measurement-techique ?

Yes, put a lightbulb (with non-coiled filament) and the light sensor in big empty dark metal paint can, and calibrate it with known DC current and voltage according to the formula P=E*I

As an exmple of good calibration look at JLN efforts. He would get more precise results with pure DC, though.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/kapagen33pio.htm

A photodiode might be better as a light sensor than a solar photovoltaic cell because it is sensitive down to the infrared light spectrum that the light bulb radiates (photovoltaics are not very sensitive to infrared). 
The major source of error in this setup is the temperature of the light sensor.

Please post some photos of a decent setup like JLN so everyone on this forum can take it as an example of good power measurments techniques.  If everyone understands it well then OU claims on this site will decrease by 99% and Stefan will not have problems with overloaded web servers anymore.

Oh, and for goodness sake, don't measure the light with an open sensor on a windowsill during the day or even full moon (or street lights outside)!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9656 on: December 10, 2011, 11:16:26 PM »
Is a mistake of connections?
Give me minute of the video and name of video  you take it from so I can respond to it
I'm not always on the forum.
Working hard

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It looks like I will get the equipment by Thursday next week ,so I can start to check  the concept, version #3 without flyback

Tomorrow evening, I will have "principals"  of device scrutinized by group of scientifically active  peoples.That would be very adventurous
They are ..."no way for FE"  and that is promising.
The more issues they will have and I have to fight with the better.


Last week there was preliminary examination of the basis of the workability  and that come up with silence.. no critics.
scientific group was kind  of shock.
The benefit I have  when I work with scientists is that they point at part of knowledge that is responsible for each one of components of the device and comment it. By that they actually contribute to  general knowledge.


Say example;
 -the input signal at  flyback transformer CAN NOT BE square as square horizontal pulse with is DC in nature that will damage flyback   as DC is related to resistance not to impedance., so if resistance of primary of flyback is 0.5 Ohm at 200V it will draw significant current.

- Yes they are RIGHT.
 input signal at transformer can not be square shape, but it can  be ramp or   narrow square.
That could be also measure between impulses, if they are square and intervals between them when actually flyback take break to cool down.
Than most of these notes  ends up in here  in the forum.


another one..
-When flyback is in saturation mode that means self resonant frequency than yes I have 100% even amplitude  at  secondary but life of flyback because of heat (Lenz Law or Eddy current depends  what is first.) is only few seconds.


-Well............... they did not calculate that  at point 11 we have two diodes and  spark gap that again gives to flyback  break to  cool down in between sparks.
But  I have noticed that flyback was cool all the time  for some reason even if it was in saturation mode.


Another one.
- for capacitor to be charged there is a need for  closed circuit you can not charge capacitor  from one wire..
you can not  power caduceus from one wire
 -But they eventually said that circuit is closed because we are dealing with EMW and with electrostatic  filed, so by electrostatic charge interaction we are closing circuit that gives  them basis to agree to one HV wire charging caduceus with two diodes and  spark gap and capacitor.
 
Caduceus in very unknown to science basically one of top guys  at first  asked me..
-Wesley how do you spell caduceus?


-O boy...........
That question was below my belly ....
Than his responded ... O yes.. it is in  electronic library... Nothing new...




But than I was dragging subject and he had to prepare himself to the certain level.
They do not need much time to stand on the level of discussion   so I can not underestimate them.


Result again is  our gain.
The more we understand the better and faster we  progress.


Wesley





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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9657 on: December 10, 2011, 11:23:40 PM »
verpies,

"Oh, and for goodness sake, don't measure the light with an open sensor on a windowsill during the day or even full moon (or street lights outside)!"

Are you kidding me ? How other can I show this setup to you ? In the dark with light on, in a tube ?! ;)

I alway compare apples to apples. Since I was testing a  50 Hz-power-transductor I stayed with ac for a reference.

Yes, a long tube... heating up with 400 Watt bulbs ...uuhhrg

Have to stay in a small budget. No time now for perfecting this setup. Things are made clear now.

You are absolutly right about the traffic....but then poor Stephan will not earn so much money because of low traffic  :( and forum might be closed and we would have no fun any longer  :-[

Regards

Kator01

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9658 on: December 10, 2011, 11:28:14 PM »
It has long wanted to ask you what lipstick to paint her lips?
Delamorto - that is really rude to pick on freenergyLt's Picture.
please atleast DONT DO THIS.
you have no right to copy his self-image..!
or say rude things about people just because you claim over-unity...!



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #9659 on: December 10, 2011, 11:44:20 PM »
You are absolutly right about the traffic....but then poor Stephan will not earn so much money because of low traffic  :( and forum might be closed and we would have no fun any longer  :-[

Oh no, I did not think about that!
Let's better keep multiplying HF average current and voltage measured with common multimeters.