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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8880 on: November 19, 2011, 06:06:46 AM »
I have spent some considerable time with this and I must conclude at this point  that my ferrite does not do the job despite having the initial peaks in the right places .

For now I am blamimg the core

I would like the Team or energia09 to measure the resistance of their  special  russian yoke or confirm that non conductive ferrite works.

This is the third time i have  asked this simple question

Most all of the later ferrites are NON conductive types.
Most people here will be using non conductive ferrite.
Any body got light with non conductive ferrite
Or does it need to be barium ferrite for this reaction to amplify?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8881 on: November 19, 2011, 06:35:28 AM »
Hi I have checked how far the 20 ferrite  of 20 ferrite saw this effect in only a few

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8882 on: November 19, 2011, 07:43:42 AM »
Flyback coil on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370552417294?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

ATTENTION ALL:  There are new HV transformers  available (without any diodes) at Goldmine Electronics for $4.95

Look under the Transformers heading, I can't post the link for some strange reason???

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« Reply #8883 on: November 19, 2011, 08:10:25 AM »
I would say this site here seems to offer a very relevant discussion of what we are working on... Almost identical if you ask me:

http://amasci.com/freenrg/a-vect2.html

- Jason O

I am not saying anything "but are you smoking that stuff again"?  I am not saying anything!  And it doesn't mean your wrong just this is a very out there thought!   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8884 on: November 19, 2011, 08:19:42 AM »
Of course one can do many things to protect a circuitry by HV at low frequency as correctly you said (zeners, varistors or even blocking capacitors of very small capacitance -high pass-)
Why no mention it so far?

Yes i am sure.  In the second "part" of the english translated video, at 42:00 - 44:00 when getting nice sine resonance at biffilar it goes (as Wesley descibes about the usage of attenuation probe 1:1000) above 6 Kv (biffilar) at 1.1 MHz. I can accept that.
 
At the end of video with the use of mains transformer for getting thse 50 Hz at 15 turns primary, @ 1:31:00 the biffilar forms some 10 Kv if i get it right.
Since all have been wound on same core, the 50 turns and the 15 turns should share more or less a 50/150 and 15/150 voltage ratio of those huge Kvs. Not to mention the examined biffilar coil set is nowhere near 150 turns.
No?
DIY High Voltage Probe for digital multimeters

AND you can get one of these resistors in the meg ohm range out of an old CRT, they are used to bleed off the HV from the CRT when the unit is switched off.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8885 on: November 19, 2011, 08:32:16 AM »
ok i'm a total n00b but if the cone shape / dimensions / weight of the soft ferrite pulled from that tv are really important, it seems we'd have a hard time acquiring these. however i started looking into molding and casting them... its probably more economical to send a cad drawing to a manufacturer who will accept custom orders, but its possible to do-it-yourself also.

read:

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Ferrites are chemical compounds consisting of ceramic materials with iron(III) oxide (Fe2O3) as their principal component.[1] Many of them are magnetic materials and they are used to make permanent magnets, ferrite cores for transformers, and in various other applications.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_(magnet)

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Ferrites that are used in transformer or electromagnetic cores contain nickel, zinc, and/or manganese compounds. They have a low coercivity and are called soft ferrites. The low coercivity means the material's magnetization can easily reverse direction without dissipating much energy (hysteresis losses), while the material's high resistivity prevents eddy currents in the core, another source of energy loss. Because of their comparatively low losses at high frequencies, they are extensively used in the cores of RF transformers and inductors in applications such as switched-mode power supplies.
The most common soft ferrites are:
Manganese-zinc ferrite (MnZn, with the formula MnaZn(1-a)Fe2O4). MnZn have higher permeability and saturation induction than NiZn.
Nickel-zinc ferrite (NiZn, with the formula NiaZn(1-a)Fe2O4). NiZn ferrites exhibit higher resistivity than MnZn, and are therefore more suitable for frequencies above 1 MHz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_(magnet)#Soft_ferrites

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The basic process is common to most ceramic process technologies and can be divided into four major functions: preparation of the powder, forming powder into cores, firing or sintering, finishing the ferrite components
http://www.intl-magnetics.org/pdfs/SFG-98.pdf

economy kiln with 1700 f max
http://www.glasswolfstudio.com/product.sc?productId=39

ferrite toroids:
https://www.amidoncorp.com/categories/7
http://www.strong-mag.com/SOFT%20MAG.htm

JMC USA, Inc. has the ferrite cone:
http://www.jmcusa.com/ferrite.htm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8886 on: November 19, 2011, 10:24:35 AM »
Here is a link to a book that tells you all about TV yokes and ferroresonace.
Modern Ferrite Technology.pdf

https://rs219tl6.rapidshare.com/#!download|219tl4|82822808|Modern_Ferrite_Technology.pdf|28310|R~C7863683AEB873F3C228E03269795A94|0|0



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8887 on: November 19, 2011, 11:28:51 AM »
I would like the Team or energia09 to measure the resistance of their  special  russian yoke or confirm that non conductive ferrite works.

There was answer already ;) The ferrite do not show any resistance in range of 2000MOhms.

P.S> Get Skype,  I would like to see over live camera what you got and how it can be tuned.

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« Reply #8888 on: November 19, 2011, 11:44:58 AM »
Hello all,
Who said we are all theories in here?  ;D

I lack a decent signal generator, therefore i tried to assemble one, actually an high frequency inverter run in a forced mode, taking the pace by a Variable control oscillator.
Ok, not the best thing to have around in investigating ferrite's singing frequency, but it gives an idea what the STAAR team should do in order to dispence with the FG ect and make a stand alone unit. :)

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For those interested, the below inverter have the major flow that for a given C capacitance it operates in relative norrow frequency and load window without any serious wave distortion.
On the other hand, it outputs like a FG (specific frequency), its voltage amplitude can go as much as anyone likes to go.

In that setup i have (x10 probe) some 75 p-p open circuit up to 2+ Mhz. By applying a minor load, as 3w, 12vbulb, the amplitude drops dramatically, that with extra C tunning can be as much as 20-25volts p-p. I estimate some 0.2 amps (in dc terms circulating by seeing bulbs brightness)

Anyway, i plan at perfecting it. This way, if my cores have a 0- 2,5 Mhz singing frequency, i will find out by large amplitude voltage application of that shield.
to get an idea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3V6d3iVh-4


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8889 on: November 19, 2011, 03:19:40 PM »

@ All, 

i redid some testing according to some comments of users verpies, baroutologos and T-1000,
see the video here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00uYDzfya10

Found a strong peak around 7/8 Mhz when using square wave only, not sure where this came from.

Found again/still the weak steady peak around 1 Mhz, also in sine wave.

However, no sine wave resonance on either 15 or 50 turns coils on that 1 Mhz signal.

I have received a second FG, so will start testing with 2 frequencies injected.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8890 on: November 19, 2011, 04:01:20 PM »
@wattsup
The scopeshots are what I asked for, and they give me info about the output stage capabilities of your signal generator.
Please answer three more questions:
1) Do you want the VCVS buffer/amplifier to handle rectangular waveforms only, or sine waves as well ?
2) Do you want the VCVS buffer/amplifier to output only pulsating DC or full AC signals ?
3) Does your signal generator have separate outputs for the sinewave and rectangular waveforms, or only one output changed by some mode switch?

@verpies

Sorry for the delay in responding to your above post. OK, I want to answer your three questions but first I need to explain something that is rather important to take into consideration.

When I had my previous flyback transformer (FB) the circuit (shown below flyback-howto1b.jpg) I used was fixed and ran well using my power supply with some good output, but the flyback, the real flyback that returns from the primary was hitting my power supply with some high voltages and even high enough amp spikes that made the meters in the power supply go haywire. I am not talking about the BEMF (primary coil resistance to initial pulse change) but the flyback that the primary produces at pulse off was in my opinion rather extreme.

My pulse generators (two HP 8116A and one HP 8111A) alone could not handle that kind of flyback. Actually that flyback could not even be produced by my FGs because I do not have high enough voltage/amperage from the FG pulses only. 

So the idea is that yes I need a circuit that can be between the FG or FGs and the FB primary, but if the circuit uses a mosfet that has an internal diode, that diode will be hit with flyback after every pulse.

So what I am thinking is first to use either one or two batteries instead of my power supply.

Then, in my research of the Tesla Ozone Patent, in searching for a good transparent mosfet for the make/break switching, I purchased two Semi-South SJEP120R063 (T1009) and two Semi-South SJDP120R085 (T1009) JFETs as shown below (rather expensive). These are used in high end systems and do not have internal diodes. I think these JFETs would do a good job. One JFET to pulse the FB primary and when the first is off, the second connects to send flyback to the battery. This is one alternative.

But I think there may be another alternative and for this, one has to consider why the primary is producing flyback in the first place. I think the flyback is due to the simple fact that the primary is being pulsed only from one side of the primary coil. I tried explaining some of this some time ago here.

http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg279767/#msg279767
and here;
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg280302/#msg280302

I know this may be controversial and I do not have a better way of explaining it. I'll try it again with this analogy. When a coil is pulsed from only one side (PS), the pre-connected (PC) side acts like a spring. When the PS is not connected, the PC spring is relaxed. When the PS is connected, the PC is now pushed inwards and under stress from the PS influx. When the PS opens again the PC spring just shoots back outwards and in doing so expels energy and this is how your flyback is created. So the idea is to eliminate the spring action by using two contacts, one on each side of the coil. This way there is no relaxed spring, hence there cannot be any stressed spring at pulse on or spring re-coil at pulse off. Both sides get pulsed at the same time and get disconnected at the same time, so the energy will only have one way to go and that is out the secondary at higher force.

Anyways, sorry for rambling on but I think at this juncture it is important to consider such things if trying to build the next step for experimenting. With a circuit diagram, I can go to my local EE guy and have him build me the circuit. If you think of other checkmate conditions that we can avoid at this stage, please let us know.

As for your questions;

1) I would like to use the full flexibility of the 50MHz FGs which have sine, triangle and square, up to 16vdc and variable duty.
2) Hmmmmm. That is  good question. Seems that the complications would double with AC. I think that if I wanted just AC I could use an H-Bridge type circuit. I don't know about that one, saying yes could add to the circuit complexity, saying no would eliminate a whole realm of experimenting. I guess it would depend o the actual complexity.
3) My FGs have one output via a mode switch  but I have three FGs so I guess the answer is yes and no.

Anyways, I just wanted to give you some impressions of how the primary could be driven but I do not want to create any overly complicated circuit. Maybe two simple circuits, one on the positive side and one on the negative side of the FB primary, driven by two of my FGs would be the best and most flexible solution.

wattsup


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8891 on: November 19, 2011, 04:28:28 PM »
@itsu,

Thanks for the video. It is well documented and enlighting, at least to me.

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« Reply #8892 on: November 19, 2011, 04:45:11 PM »
@itsu

It would be good to know what are the output capabilities of your signal generators for sine and square waveforms.
If you you could do the same tests as wattsup below, we would now what kind of output distortions happen with your rigs.

Below are images of scope with 10 ohms and 100ohms resistor load (non-inductive) with frequency generator set at 16vpp, 50% duty and 100kHz.

My comments on your last video would be much more informed if I had this output capability info.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8893 on: November 19, 2011, 04:55:09 PM »
@T-1000

Could you or one of the others check something? Please test the inductance of the 50 turn coil with and without a DC bias on the copper plates? A theory I have is that certain ferrites have both magnetic and dielectric properties, and that when subjected to a dielectric stress, it alters the permeability, plus or minus.

If it reduces permeability, it may simply be a parametric generator. If it increases permeability, it may be establishing a strong magnetic field via an electric field by forcing a spin alignment. In either case the dielectric properties of the ferrite may be why some work and others do not.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2011, 08:04:52 PM by LtBolo »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8894 on: November 19, 2011, 05:29:19 PM »
 I too believe something is changing in the Ferrite core. Maybe these are the same waves just out of phase. The ferrite acts like a lense to both waves, redirecting the pathways and combining them in one output. When in normal alignment they convert one type of wave. But maybe they are converting two waves(electric and magnetic) at the same time when flowing through this dual polarized core? Piggy backing the two together making it really strong??