Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 15808404 times)

verpies · « **Reply #8850 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:08:25 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on November 18, 2011, 10:11:57 AM

Hello Verpie, i do not really want to push you against the wall since you are a charming member of this forum. Maybe what you say is not impossible rather than impropable.

i would wait for an asnwer from the STAAR team with measurments etc. After all, time reveals everything

Please push. You cannot offend me with healthy scientific opposition.
I feel it is me place to present a complementary view and explanation, even if I don't believe it. Without it there would be no discussion.
I have to cheer you up and write that what you write is more probable and more in accord with the scientific laws as we know them today.

Yes, in the end proper empirical data trumps all "laws".

P.S.
I will not go into possible sociological/psychological explanations, though. The are not my fortÃ©

aidas · « **Reply #8851 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:16:01 PM »

This was ferrite testing and tuning of resonant frequency on copper pates. The input is 12V 0.68A with square wave frequency 212kHz and duty cycle 39%. The ourput is high voltage with frequency is more than 25mHz. The SWR shows steady 100W output.
This effect seems is damaging health. Probably due high frequency of high power
Lowered resonant frequency on copper plates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZAMS8885n4
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/nastroena.png
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/spektra_analis_nastroenex_mednex_plastine.png
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/spekter_0-25mgz.jpg

T-1000 · « **Reply #8852 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:29:52 PM »

Quote from: aidas on November 18, 2011, 01:16:01 PM

This was ferrite testing and tuning of resonant frequency on copper pates. The input is 12V 0.68A with square wave frequency 212kHz and duty cycle 39%. The ourput is high voltage with frequency is more than 25mHz. The SWR shows steady 100W output.
This effect seems is damaging health. Probably due high frequency of high power
Lowered resonant frequency on copper plates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZAMS8885n4
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/nastroena.png
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/spektra_analis_nastroenex_mednex_plastine.png
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/spekter_0-25mgz.jpg

Also for this effect you need to de-gauss ferrite (like in old TVs). Without it looses capability over time.

verpies · « **Reply #8853 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:48:15 PM »

Quote from: aidas on November 18, 2011, 01:16:01 PM

The SWR shows steady 100W output.

I applaud your use of the RF Power Meter.

If I saw two digital multimeters measuring an average HF voltage and current, which were then multiplied to obtain power, I would be severely disappointed.
Unfortunately this is what 80% of experimenters do on this forum

verpies · « **Reply #8854 on:** November 18, 2011, 02:13:45 PM »

Quote from: aidas on November 18, 2011, 01:16:01 PM

This was ferrite testing and tuning of resonant frequency on copper pates. The input is 12V 0.68A with square wave frequency 212kHz and duty cycle 39%. The output is high voltage with frequency is more than 25mHz. The SWR shows steady 100W output.

Please be more precise. From the statements above I can only gather and guess the following:

50t winding <- 12V, 580mA maximum peak to peak 212kHz rectangular wave (39% duty cycle)
21t winding -> a waveform of unknown shape and partially known HV amplitude and known 100W power, with some?/all? spectral components exceeding 25MHz
15t winding - ??
1t winding - ??

I cannot be sure that the secondary bifilar winding even has 21turns - I'm only guessing that because that's what you showed on your last video.
This video gives no information what is connected to the 1turn Transverse Winding (copper strips), nor to the 15t winding.
Also, I am only guessing that the 212kHz rectangular waveform is fed to the 50t winding, because that is what you usually do.

orel1 · « **Reply #8855 on:** November 18, 2011, 02:22:54 PM »

Quote from: aidas on November 18, 2011, 01:16:01 PM

This effect seems is damaging health. Probably due high frequency of high power

We have to consider also impact of high power EM waves to our health. I'm sure that are no good for our bodys, so first we need protection (I heard somewhere that Tariel has health problems and that might be caused by his device). I have my theory (actualy not mine)...
To all I recommend film below - it talks about free energy, the answer to our question is TORUS. But also about other aspect of our lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI2LGmZ_EP4
If link is not active any more than it is probably censored.

jbignes5 · « **Reply #8856 on:** November 18, 2011, 02:25:41 PM »

Quote from: aidas on November 18, 2011, 01:16:01 PM

This was ferrite testing and tuning of resonant frequency on copper pates. The input is 12V 0.68A with square wave frequency 212kHz and duty cycle 39%. The ourput is high voltage with frequency is more than 25mHz. The SWR shows steady 100W output.
This effect seems is damaging health. Probably due high frequency of high power
Lowered resonant frequency on copper plates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZAMS8885n4
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/nastroena.png
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/spektra_analis_nastroenex_mednex_plastine.png
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/spekter_0-25mgz.jpg

I thought the copper plates were for the high voltage. You are saying 12v .68 amps with square wave. It's supposed to be a spark wave? and not a square wave. This is why it is damaging health. Square wave is too much power and will affect matter.

baroutologos · « **Reply #8857 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM »

Quote from: verpies on November 18, 2011, 01:08:25 PM

Please push. You cannot offend me with healthy scientific opposition.
I feel it is me place to present a complementary view and explanation, even if I don't believe it..

Thanks Verpie for the reassurance. In forums like this, asking too many questions makes u being tagged as a "skeptist" resulting in general depreciation.

...
My view is that the STAAR team should take its time and assemble a nice and clear video while the device is working at two modes:

a) Low power mode 100-150w
b) High power mode 1Kw

Then all kinds of measurments to be made as

1) Oscilloscope connected at secondary (while in load - biffilar) and primaries (channel 1,2,3 etc) same time
2) Real time current measurements going out of the FGs to windings (cannot be much anyway)
3) u name it..

Then to play around with FGs causing a slight detuning and showing how affects overall performance at both modes low power or high power.

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #8858 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:08:19 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on November 17, 2011, 03:33:53 PM

Hello T-1000, sorry for my rush, but i kept answering that question from the very beggining.
..
Anyway i am not sure i quite follow you. Of course the winding's impedance will choke currents of high frequencies and stopping them from flowing to the FGs. (revised)

In other words, the FG starts supplying some current A at say10 volts, (not even close those speculated 0.25amps at 200 Khz or so because FG impedance 600ohms as Weslay said in the video + windings impedance atthose frequencies.) I can accept that a voltage rise of 0.3-1Kv range at those 1,1 Mhz or even 260 Khz frequencies can (?) cause no harm to the FG.

What about the 50 hz frequency? In the end, it is the 50 hz volatge frequency that climbs up to KV range (without any load attached). Impedances at those 50 hz are not worthy to be mentioned at constraining currents at those 50turns primary or 15turns from inrushing the signal generators.

This is critical to be answered in my view.
Thanks

Good theories.
Eventually only detailed measurements at the FG will reveal what signals actually
are present there.
I have a hard time imagining unidirectional transformation, so i still assume the HV signal gets transformed
into the other winding.
It came to my mind that maybe (just) in case of resonance (standing wave) coincidentally
at the FG output you would find voltage levels very close to the voltage node of the total signal, in which
case the FG would not "see" a high voltage. But that's wild speculation, time will tell. Have no other explanation really why the FG would not get damaged.

verpies · « **Reply #8859 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:15:00 PM »

Quote from: jbignes5 on November 18, 2011, 02:25:41 PM

I thought the copper plates were for the high voltage.

No, there are three different configurations of the copper plates in the STAAAR device.
1) Shorted by a variable capacitor (no external energy input).
2) Fed by an external HV transformer through a spark gap in series.
3) Divided copper plates fed by an external HV transformer with a spark gap in parallel (used only by Tiger)

It the latest video it is not stated how the 1t transverse winding (copper plates) is hooked up.

Quote from: jbignes5 on November 18, 2011, 02:25:41 PM

You are saying 12v .68 amps with square wave.

No, he is implying a rectangular wave because it has a 39% duty cycle. A square wave must have the 50% duty cycle.
Also it is unclear if the 12V, 680mA is an average measurement of the rectangular wave or its maximum instantaneous rating.

Quote from: jbignes5 on November 18, 2011, 02:25:41 PM

It's supposed to be a spark wave? and not a square wave.

Spark wave? What's that?
A waveform created by a spark? If yes, then it is an ambiguous description of the waveform shape.

verpies · « **Reply #8860 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:28:44 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on November 18, 2011, 03:05:49 PM

3) u name it..

Yes, that's exactly what is needed.
STAAAR's definition of "clear" might be a little different that ours, though.

as pt.3 I would like to add simultaneous sampling of the voltage and current in the windings by a DSO, and publishing these waveforms in numerical forms.

verpies · « **Reply #8861 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:49:29 PM »

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on November 18, 2011, 03:08:19 PM

I have a hard time imagining unidirectional transformation, so i still assume the HV signal gets transformed
into the other winding.

Why?
Voltage buildup is a conventional phenomenon for LC circuits that store energy.
Not so for purely resistively loaded transformers, though.

Consider a leaky transformer with just two windings of 1:1 turn ratio.
The secondary is shorted by a capacitor, forming an LC oscillator. In an ideal inductor and capacitor with no resistance, the energy will be sloshing back-and-forth between them forever.
More energy can be slowly added to this oscillator by a loosely coupled primary winding driven at the 1/(LC)^0.5 frequency.
After some time a lot of energy can be accumulated this way in the secondary LC circuit (leading to high voltage amplitudes)
The current in the secondary will not induce the same current in the primary because the transformer is leaky and the primary lacks the mechanism for storing reflected oscillations.

This is conventional behavior.

T-1000 · « **Reply #8862 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:01:24 PM »

The latest test was done on copper plates without capacitor, the generator is attached to them. Other coils was not used for this effect.
As you already know, the configuration we got makes standing wave.
Here is link how they look visualy in water: http://vimeo.com/14153775
The same principle is observed everythere no matter what people may think...

verpies · « **Reply #8863 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:09:27 PM »

Quote from: T-1000 on November 18, 2011, 04:01:24 PM

The latest test was done on copper plates without capacitor, the generator is attached to them.
Other coils was not used for this effect.

Other coils were not used ?
So where was the HV ~25MHz 100W output measured? On copper plates, too?

T-1000 · « **Reply #8864 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:26:39 PM »

Quote from: verpies on November 18, 2011, 04:09:27 PM

Other coils were not used ?
So where was the HV ~25MHz 100W output measured? On copper plates, too?

The measurement for power was done on 50 turns coil + antenna in SWR.

P.S> We're on the another military crysis because of the oil(most likely) again

http://news.yandex.ru/yandsearch?cl4url=www.profinews.com.ua%2Fget.php%2F21505%2Frossiya-ugrozhaet-byivshim-stranam-varshavskogo-dogovora-yadernoj-vojnoj
http://www.prisonplanet.com/russian-warships-enter-syrian-waters-to-prevent-nato-attack.html

So alternative sources of energy have to come in no-time...

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