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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13263799 times)

Offline LtBolo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8940 on: November 21, 2011, 11:11:07 PM »
I don't think core yoke material has anything to do with it.

 One of the team posted here that he had tried 20 or so cores, and only a few exhibited the behavior. T-1000 also said that the core that was currently working for them was 'pure glittering black', as opposed to the gray color most ferrites are. So I will respectfully disagree.

I doubt that it is limited to a specific material, but that certain materials are more subject to it than others. The old MnZn ferrites were known to be very prone to ringing, something that obviously has relevance here.

It occurred to me that to properly align the spins to induce magnetism, you need alignment in two axis. The single turn coil may be creating an electric polarization in one axis...we'll call X, the single turn coil could also be creating a magnetic alignment in the other...we'll call Y, and the resulting X and Y alignment then results in a powerful magnetic field propagating around the toroid, or the Z. By pulsing the one turn coil at the ferrite material's resonant frequency, eventually all of the spins begin to sync and the amplitude of the spin oscillation becomes large. As the individual spins begin to cohere, the material spontaneously magnetizes and demagnetizes along the Z axis.

Think of it this way: Visualize each molecule as a fan that is fully gimballed, blowing air (magnetism) in a completely random direction. The net airflow is zero. If I were to apply a force to the fans to pull them in one axis, they may now be aligned within a single plane, but the resulting airflow is still zero. If I were to align them in another axis, now all of the fans are oriented in same direction, and the airflow along the aligned axis could be extreme.

The amount of force that it took to rotate each fan had nothing to do with how hard each fan was blowing, only with how hard each fan was spring loaded into its starting position. For any material, the total possible magnetic output is a function of permeability. I have no idea what the equivalent of the spring loading is, possibly permittivity. That is really irrelevant though, because the key is that the fan is blowing on its own, I'm just turning it in the direction I want it to go. Some materials may go willingly, others not so much. I'm sure that once you understood the effect and the critical parameters, material selection would be pretty easy. Without a better understanding of what works and what doesn't, we're pissing in the wind. Starting with a known good material seems like a good approach.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8941 on: November 21, 2011, 11:56:35 PM »
Manual Deflection Yoke Degauss - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfgAwRnyWsY
The ring inside of blue isolation tape is coil powered by mains of 50Hz 220V.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8942 on: November 22, 2011, 12:07:39 AM »
@ All,

New attempt to replicate with advice received from T-1000.
Max. output 188V, but voltage only.
Problem still is the amount of 50Hz voltage to be put into the 15 turn coil
in combination with the lack of solid ferrite resonance point.

Video with subtitles as proposed by user verpies :-)  :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA5s_3JxAvc


Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu
               I like your effort with this project.Am having ago myself,The problem I have is with the 50Hz
               driving the 15 turn coil ,this does not make any sense to me as the impedance at 50hz from my
                calcs is .0289 ohm ,a short circuit,also if we had the inductance of the windings of the original
               we could adjust our windings to suit.Just a suggestion .
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8942 on: November 22, 2011, 12:07:39 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8943 on: November 22, 2011, 12:58:49 AM »

 One of the team posted here that he had tried 20 or so cores, and only a few exhibited the behavior. T-1000 also said that the core that was currently working for them was 'pure glittering black', as opposed to the gray color most ferrites are. So I will respectfully disagree.

I doubt that it is limited to a specific material, but that certain materials are more subject to it than others. The old MnZn ferrites were known to be very prone to ringing, something that obviously has relevance here.

It occurred to me that to properly align the spins to induce magnetism, you need alignment in two axis. The single turn coil may be creating an electric polarization in one axis...we'll call X, the single turn coil could also be creating a magnetic alignment in the other...we'll call Y, and the resulting X and Y alignment then results in a powerful magnetic field propagating around the toroid, or the Z. By pulsing the one turn coil at the ferrite material's resonant frequency, eventually all of the spins begin to sync and the amplitude of the spin oscillation becomes large. As the individual spins begin to cohere, the material spontaneously magnetizes and demagnetizes along the Z axis.

Think of it this way: Visualize each molecule as a fan that is fully gimballed, blowing air (magnetism) in a completely random direction. The net airflow is zero. If I were to apply a force to the fans to pull them in one axis, they may now be aligned within a single plane, but the resulting airflow is still zero. If I were to align them in another axis, now all of the fans are oriented in same direction, and the airflow along the aligned axis could be extreme.

The amount of force that it took to rotate each fan had nothing to do with how hard each fan was blowing, only with how hard each fan was spring loaded into its starting position. For any material, the total possible magnetic output is a function of permeability. I have no idea what the equivalent of the spring loading is, possibly permittivity. That is really irrelevant though, because the key is that the fan is blowing on its own, I'm just turning it in the direction I want it to go. Some materials may go willingly, others not so much. I'm sure that once you understood the effect and the critical parameters, material selection would be pretty easy. Without a better understanding of what works and what doesn't, we're pissing in the wind. Starting with a known good material seems like a good approach.


 This is the most clearest post I have seen from the forum. Spot on in my opinion. You could think of these axis as surfaces that can each be wavered or modulated but in distinctly different ways. Think of the magnetic quenched spark gap and you can see where this is going. replace the air with ferric matter and the premise stays the same. In order to increase frequency Tesla did this same procedure. The magnetic fields orient the grains of the space in between the electrodes this increases the dots per inch so to speak. You could think about a spark as a little string of pearls going from electrode to electrode. The flow of charges follows these pearls and acts like grease. Now apply a downward water flow(magnetic field polarization) across the pearls and it strips the charges from between the pearls and leaves the grease on the bottom of the pearls still clung to it. The dots become more pronounced and of a very high frequency due to the alignment of a polarizing magnetic quenching.


 I believe this is the same method you guys are seeing here. I am wondering what a layered aluminum ring would do? Would it act differently seeing when one drops a magnet along an aluminum plate it moves very strangely. We know something is going on there.. Hmm...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8944 on: November 22, 2011, 02:19:21 AM »

There was a thread relating to moving theb 'bloch wall' of magnets to and fro via a switching method...I wonder could this process be of use in this application ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8944 on: November 22, 2011, 02:19:21 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8945 on: November 22, 2011, 06:58:50 AM »
you can degauss anything with a decaying alternating magnetic field .
 
A transformer with the i cores cut out (open end)
 
A drill with a spinning magnet (poles out)
 
A magnet on a string spinning (poles out)
 
The important thing is the decaying field  is slow
 
no need for a big blue ring (unless the yoke has unusual  domains as well)
 
Try all of this on a colour tv CRT  and you will get the hang of degaussing methods ..its fun at least

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8946 on: November 22, 2011, 07:10:33 AM »
Manual Deflection Yoke Degauss - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfgAwRnyWsY
The ring inside of blue isolation tape is coil powered by mains of 50Hz 220V.

Does it help?
How long before it needs to be degaussed again?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8947 on: November 22, 2011, 10:55:08 AM »
@ Verpie,


Regardin the wave riding case, i have seen again this. That is a lower frequency wave being the "ground" (or point of reference), whereas a higher frequency one oscillating at its crests like a "surfer wave".

The below image was taken a couple of years before by user RomeroUk, in his efforts to replicate Kapandze device.
They have an analogy of 1:10 and LF is about (do not remeber excactly) 300 Khz.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8948 on: November 22, 2011, 12:29:16 PM »
@Baroutologos

If the LF was fed by a high impednace source into a low impedance winding @ 300Hz and the LF voltage amplitude across the winding did not follow the I*Z relation, then indeed this was some unconventional ratcheting effect.

@All
For those who do not know what a ratchet is, see:
YouTube Ratchet

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8949 on: November 22, 2011, 12:33:51 PM »
I have published schematics of Tigers device - all what "group of Wesly": says is quite  different because they are like you - they are "in progress of trying to replicate" device of other creator!
PS  http://germaschka2011.narod2.ru/

In your orginal message you have a schematic with two transistors, one is PNP and one NPN BUT both are marked KT819 as the type????   Thank you.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8950 on: November 22, 2011, 01:44:30 PM »
 :(    Can anyone tell me why ALL my downloads from this site have a .part extention???  I am not able to download anything for the past 4 days?????   WHAT'S UP????


Also concerning the spark gaps,  according to Tesla's findings : placing the spark gaps between a magnetic field (magnets) amplified GREATLY the ouput!!


Would ANYONE please comment if this post is found?? 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8951 on: November 22, 2011, 01:58:39 PM »
:(    Can anyone tell me why ALL my downloads from this site have a .part extention???  I am not able to download anything for the past 4 days? ??? ?   WHAT'S UP? ???


Also concerning the spark gaps,  according to Tesla's findings : placing the spark gaps between a magnetic field (magnets) amplified GREATLY the ouput!!


Would ANYONE please comment if this post is found??


 Well you can liken it to a gun going off. It was a major portion of his amplifying transmitter! Haven't you heard that analogue is much better then digital in this case. In Tesla's mind he could create infinite oscillations that way, used that to his benefit. Keep reading about the spark gap and capacitance discharges and it's capabilities. He did extensive research into that area and I believe it is the root of all his discoveries. Such simple technology that held so much power.

 After all when substituting Fluid dynamics all the parts make sense. Capacitor (reactive pressurized container), Spark Gap (pressure release, frequency Controller) and in my opinion shaped pressure inlets and outlets (short-able field Emitter\Collector coils(Rotor)).

 I am thinking He learned a lot about the field and how it behaves inside of iron as well. It was said in one of the books about him that he gave Westing House a new type of iron that was more efficient then what they were using for transformers of the day. This iron was very soft and I can't remember the name of it off hand. I will en-devour to find it again and give the details.

 All Iron acts like a channel to this energy. It contains the field, well mostly. It can be pressurized so the field spills out but still follows the circular shape. You can make waves to the field inside of the pressurized doughnut. The peaks come out of the shape momentarily and follow their own rules of inductive fields. These peeks are extreme potential with great powers of induction and can generate huge inductive fields for the briefest of time.

 Resonance of the matter of the iron only increases this result. I assume this is what you guys are seeing here when you resonate the ferric core. This must allow the fields to break the surface of the iron by syncing to the field and it doesn't see the difference electrically between the iron and field. This allows the field to expose itself beyond the iron or ferric core and inducing into the wires wrapped around the core.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8952 on: November 22, 2011, 02:54:42 PM »
some of notes.


Deflection yoke. ferrite.
for those who want to play with this concept do not purchase generator that has maximum frequency of 2 mhz
After the while  main resonance frequency of ferrite changes.
One major problem that we have experienced is that when we sweep and/or delivered withe noise to U shape
and say 15 winds  was used to connect spectrum analyzer than pick resonance  expected to be  from 1.2 to 1.9 MHz with time  jumped up to 2.2MHz. That would not be a problem but my generator -Wavetek was damaged because of Chinese cheap voltage conversion transformer that show on its label 220 in and 110V out  but in reality was 220 to 220V
The  generators originally used  max 2MHz.
So  recommended generators are  less than 10 MHz max.


This part of test than was limited to measurement and working regimes investigation.
Demagnetization of  ferrite ring from deflection yoke  did help ,but with the time jumped again to 2.2 MHz.
Remember that second step would be to deliver 2.2MHz to U shape from generator and find  maximum pick on 10 winds again that one will be in within the range of kHz say 380KHz..


Because each ferrite is different that  these parameters are different as well.


Does not make  any difference if primarily you have connected withe noise to U shape winding but reading was done on 15 or 50 winds. result  of  reading  will  be the same  in regards of frequency 1.2-1.9 Mhz.


Repeating effect is not easy  even for us.


Group of 4 people  plus additional two at some moments was working approximately 20 hours a day for period  from Saturday till Wednesday  on two  concepts.


First working concept.
Conformed as  what it looks like  100% success.
That is the concept from video
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBpNKSsdqw




Wesley


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8953 on: November 22, 2011, 03:46:06 PM »
@itsu

Could you post purchasing info for that cheap Chinese signal generator of yours?
I think I heard you say that it can go up to 5MHz and I saw that the output driver parameters you measured, were pretty decent.

I think Wesley could use several of these signal generators...

...my generator - Wavetek was damaged...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8954 on: November 22, 2011, 04:27:04 PM »

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Could you post purchasing info for that cheap Chinese signal generator of yours?
I think I heard you say that it can go up to 5MHz and I saw that the output driver parameters you measured, were pretty decent.

I think Wesley could use several of these signal generators...



@ verpies,
it was already mentioned (and turned down because of the shipping costs :-) ) by e2matrix in his post #8719 on page 582.
It goes to 5 Mhz, yes.
Be aware it has a full range (110V - 240V) ps, but comes with US type mains plug, see picture on the add.


Concerning the air gap i am using, its still there, and is normal thickness 80 gram printer paper.
The 15 and 50 turns are 1.5mm od (15 awg) solid copper wire, the 150 Turn bifilar is 18 awg stranded wire (loudspeaker wire).

I received 2 large variable capacitors (35 - 345 pf) for better tuning, however it introduces 2 more tuning parameters :-(
 
Regards Itsu


 

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