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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16594372 times)

Haan

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19920 on: November 04, 2013, 10:17:56 AM »
got it?

No.
Sorry, but your 'explanation' does not make sense.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19921 on: November 04, 2013, 10:29:46 AM »

Great Post. We're almost there. Notice he said the bifilar pickup coil coil needs hardly any tuning. Just as Akula said.

Nice pickup a.king21

Just to clarify, the comment in the video was:
"I use bifilar winding ... why?.
Because bifilar winding is frequency independant.  That means I do not need to tune that, and any frequency I put through,  I (it) will go out here."

This aligns with an early post in this thread about Russian HAM operators using bifilar windings in their radio circuits.  Now we know why.

This also nicely answers your recent rhetorical questions about whether bifilar windings have 'special' properties.

It's another step forward in understanding...

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19922 on: November 04, 2013, 12:32:58 PM »
Just to clarify, the comment in the video was:
"I use bifilar winding ... why?.
Because bifilar winding is frequency independent.  That means I do not need to tune that, and any frequency I put through,  I (it) will go out here."
This aligns with an early post in this thread about Russian HAM operators using bifilar windings in their radio circuits.  Now we know why.
This also nicely answers your recent rhetorical questions about whether bifilar windings have 'special' properties.
Which bifilar coil type did you have in mind?  See this diagram.

captainkt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19923 on: November 04, 2013, 01:34:42 PM »
@aking.21, Hi spent a few hours playing this weekend, using a mot cap and spark gap for power supply then over to other side of bench I ended up with another MOT with HV core grounded then out put to load (400w electric fire) and with three micro wave caps in series. Nothing then I accidently shorted the one out put with the earth or core  forming a spark gap, then a rushing noise and my fire came up full bright this lasted for 30 secs then stopped. I later found out it had melted the switch to fire so reconnected it later but could not get it to work again, then ran out of time. The reason for post is that your block diagram of Kapanadze patent ,is the same as I basically had on Sunday with the MOT transformer replacing the two coils, Hv coil in on left and output low voltage coil out on right with caps as filters. I have always thought that Kapanadze circuit could be broken down into power supply which could be almost any HV  and output cicuit almost any config of coils. He has built dozens of units all slightly different, so after the weekend I am sure the secret is something very simple to get things working. The three caps had to be spot on, I had 6 all in series and jabbed my load wire in and out of pins only one of the pins made circuit work 1 pin either way and nothing -  almost as if no supply. Hit the correct pin and bingo. I now have to wait until next weekend to try again. This is the third time in 5yrs that I have had this rushing noise to earth, usually then it blows my circuit and I start again.
Regards
Keith     

jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19924 on: November 04, 2013, 02:19:00 PM »



 You know what I am gonna stick to what works. TK can have his mysteries. I should have enough figured out to have this system working. TK said all along it was Tesla that he learned what he does. And he said it was all online and right in the public eye. I can figure out most of what TK has done and this is about all I need.


 I have shown credible work done by Tesla and TK and tried to show the relationships and similarities. Some have gotten this and other refuse to see anything. Fine. I'm good with that. I laid out the information and how it should work. Now we just need to start doing and stop yapping endlessly.


 Unfortunately I can not start work on this until I get my Lab up and running. With health issues and not being moved yet I don't see that happening any time soon.


 I thought I would share my work with the others on this forum, of which I have done for the most part. There is still a lot more work to be done on this.


 I am glad to see TheOldScientist and others like Akula taking on the mantle of showing the results. I am not in such a position to do so yet.


 I find it funny that some keep asking for me to make a schematic and do the experimenting for them. I will do no such thing at this time. I am too busy with trying to get healthy and trying to get a proper lab up and running to present this in the PROPER way. A way that can not be looked at in mystery and occlusion. These people do not want to experiment and these people want only to have the answers put in their hands.


 Fortunately there are some out there who do want to know the truth and are willing to do the work. I applaud them! Right now I am in no position to do so. At least not in a presentable way. What I don't understand at the moment is that we were given the answers and given the tools already. What is so hard about that to go down the road of re-discovery when given the methods and components of all aspects of this technology. Tesla was the beginning. A learning point from experimental evidence. So go and learn and then DO. It's that simple.....

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19925 on: November 04, 2013, 02:36:58 PM »

 I have shown credible work done by Tesla and TK and tried to show the relationships and similarities. Some have gotten this and other refuse to see anything. Fine. I'm good with that. I laid out the information and how it should work. Now we just need to start doing and stop yapping endlessly.

 I find it funny that some keep asking for me to make a schematic and do the experimenting for them. I will do no such thing at this time. I am too busy with trying to get healthy and trying to get a proper lab up and running to present this in the PROPER way. A way that can not be looked at in mystery and occlusion. These people do not want to experiment and these people want only to have the answers put in their hands.


Yes, we all need to do a bit less yapping and more doing. I wish you a speedy return to health.

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19926 on: November 04, 2013, 02:44:33 PM »
Which bifilar coil type did you have in mind?  See this diagram.

It looks to me like a conventional bifilar pair of parallel wires twisted up at the ends.

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19927 on: November 04, 2013, 02:49:13 PM »
Which bifilar coil type did you have in mind?  See this diagram.
It looks to me like a conventional bifilar pair of parallel wires twisted up at the ends.
What's conventional nowadays?
1) Bucking helical
2) Bucking flat spiral
3) Aiding helical
4) Aiding flat spiral

I guess by "twisted up at the ends" you mean bucking mode 1 or 2... but which one?

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19928 on: November 04, 2013, 03:04:44 PM »
I'm pretty certain that Kapanadze does not use flat spirals. In a technical discussion with him re miniaturizing his circuit I suggested coil printing on a pcb. I suggested that flat bifilar coils could be printed this way. Kapanadze was intrigued by the idea and said it was worth a try.
I have no doubt in my mind that Kapanadze uses the Tesla configuration as outlined in the Colorado Spring notes.

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19929 on: November 04, 2013, 03:09:33 PM »
It looks to me like a conventional bifilar pair of parallel wires twisted up at the ends.

What's conventional nowadays?
1) Bucking helical
2) Bucking flat spiral
3) Aiding helical
4) Aiding flat spiral

I guess by "twisted up at the ends" you mean bucking mode 1 or 2... but which one?

Aiding and helical wound on ferrite rod with ends twisted together to form lead outs .

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19930 on: November 04, 2013, 03:44:48 PM »
@aking.21, Hi spent a few hours playing this weekend, using a mot cap and spark gap for power supply then over to other side of bench I ended up with another MOT with HV core grounded then out put to load (400w electric fire) and with three micro wave caps in series. Nothing then I accidently shorted the one out put with the earth or core  forming a spark gap, then a rushing noise and my fire came up full bright this lasted for 30 secs then stopped. I later found out it had melted the switch to fire so reconnected it later but could not get it to work again, then ran out of time. The reason for post is that your block diagram of Kapanadze patent ,is the same as I basically had on Sunday with the MOT transformer replacing the two coils, Hv coil in on left and output low voltage coil out on right with caps as filters. I have always thought that Kapanadze circuit could be broken down into power supply which could be almost any HV  and output cicuit almost any config of coils. He has built dozens of units all slightly different, so after the weekend I am sure the secret is something very simple to get things working. The three caps had to be spot on, I had 6 all in series and jabbed my load wire in and out of pins only one of the pins made circuit work 1 pin either way and nothing -  almost as if no supply. Hit the correct pin and bingo. I now have to wait until next weekend to try again. This is the third time in 5yrs that I have had this rushing noise to earth, usually then it blows my circuit and I start again.
Regards
Keith   


What was the voltage and amperage of your input  power supply?

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19931 on: November 04, 2013, 03:59:09 PM »
Verpies: What is the output voltage difference between aiding and bucking mode in a bifilar coil?

stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19932 on: November 04, 2013, 04:16:59 PM »
Guys:
Put it into history files if you wish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Please read it even if you  not sure that your time and attention is worth the effort.
you got your answers at best of my sanity.





No.
Sorry, but your 'explanation' does not make sense.

first toughs of mine is that:
 not many of you have noticed  that there  is  "ready to use" schematic of Akula
from my last  video.Posted by me.


Look also at
similarity to coil capacitor from Lithuania  experiment.


basically  the rod inside is the capacitive reactance phase loop  is related too.
but you can go around without  fancy electronics  just as TK did.
Spark gap acts as generator of square impulses with all all the impurities and bi products acts  even better than  phase loop regulator.
It makes  the circuit being kept under influence of main  resonating frequency of spark gap-SG)( distance in SG matters  very much- it is our adjustment)
But if  it goes out left or right from main frequency - it is being hold by amplitude of near harmonics or  bi-product
as (
The amplitude is main- foundation, of stabilizator like automation - better than  PLL or PLR
...  and even better factor of frequency region, you  can mark by drawing overall  envelope line on the edge of it.)


so that is why TK  picked up  this  idea   from the beginning of.
It is simple and it works.


You  chasing ghosts and you have  ready answer in front of you just sitting and waiting.




Wesley








There are two kind of people:
practitioners and thinkers



The dominating part of me is what practitioner is handicap without.
I'm thinker.

there is another third category: Hope-rs and opportunists

for example:


Mr King smart,inteligent, fast,educated, developer,
Mr King is  also (just) analyzer of development of others  and consumer of both.
With hope that he would be able to develop as well
He is man of action , production and money.
nothing  wrong but this is not my cup of tea.


---------------------------------------------------------
to Haan:

I ask you the  questions  Haan, all of you and instead of answers


..... all you  answered me is that  "it does not make  sense!!"
what does not make sense  questions or  lack of answers.?


I put that into this particular form  for you to analyze it and think :)

you my friend  did not even understand  what I was referring to, did not go to material to check if motor in TK is the mechanism of phase delay.
 but commented it as
Quote
does not make sense.
yes it doesn't not make sense to you but it might - to the thinker


The difference between most of you and me(us.- Wesley and Arunas)
is that we will most likely past to unknown and unnoticed as  situation evolves........ We do not need the crowd and do not  have  significant personal  agenda  (- even ,do not give  sh..t about it)
 But we DEVELOP what practitioners can't............. or can only by accident.
like  TK did and Akula as well.


There is the need of longs for you to breath , we are the longs activators, enhancers..............
You do not need to think about us .just take a breath and do your  things.


Wesley





To all:
What if I'm right?
If I'm right this forum can stop  speculating and start developing as we speak , just right now.
So why they do not do it?
Because at first they  do not believe in it,
at second- no significant authority is giving that on the table
>>
if it was TK you would not speculate  but  do it at this very  moment just to be  a first............
first in UK, ...........USA,.......... France, anywhere........


so why  they not.......... because many of them are just lazy opportunists.


just think what if I'm right... and you have it in front of your nose
 :)
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captainkt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19933 on: November 04, 2013, 04:18:16 PM »
@a.king21 Hi I am putting a few bulbs in series with mot which keeps the current draw down to save it heating and burning out, then variac slowly turned up to 300 watts input and just using one wire out to circuit from HV side of transformer. I think Kapanadze manages to get his circuit working because all his bits are rugged and crude, if you try to use electronics everything burns out very quickly when experimenting. Maybe once something is rock solid and working then refine later.I have gotten through 9 Oxc oscillators from cybernetics they only last minutes, the longest one lasted a few hours after I changed the Mosfet. I am only pulsing a car coil with them, the latest ones the plastic circuit board melts and sets on fire due to close proximity of components to output wires, so it gets expensive. When they are first connected they are brilliant with good resonance but do not last and then you have to start over with circuit again.
Regards
Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #19934 on: November 04, 2013, 04:24:11 PM »
I think a lot of people have a hard time converting the spiral wound bifilar on the cylindrical bifilar coil. Am I right? Bifilar coils have been long used by Nikola Tesla on his Induction Machines if look at them correctly you will realize that the Bifilar Pancake Coil is another improvement of the 2 Wound Coil Primary.  ;D ;D ;D

Verpies: What is the output voltage difference between aiding and bucking mode in a bifilar coil?