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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12580017 times)

Offline Farmhand

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14280 on: October 03, 2012, 06:35:32 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI1CPBSm-o&feature=related


 Hmmm...

Very dodgy video, the guy is trying to measure AC with a DC amp meter that may not even be connected. He didn't show it working.
He says he has resonance but all he has is an AC wave form produced by the function generator and distorted by the coil, it doesn't look resonant to me.
The frequency is 300 kHz which the meter would probably ignore anyway.
The LED uses extremely small amounts of power as well.

Bottom line is the demo shows nothing but his inexperience and his desire to show something as "free energy".
My hat is off to him for experimenting and trying, but I see nothing special in the video.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14281 on: October 03, 2012, 09:04:10 AM »
TK's frequency is fixed at 50Hz. In order to maintain the resonance we have to change the coil or the capacitor or the rotation of the earth or whatsoever but not the frequency. :o

In the video of the 2004 Kapanadze not measure frequency. So we can not say that there is 50 Hz. If the transistors assembled generator, while in 2004, the frequency may be more. If the frequency is greater then the transformer can be much smaller and fit into a tin can.

It may be that high frequency can be modulated at a frequency of 50 Hz. But this is theory

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14282 on: October 03, 2012, 09:50:13 AM »
The very first circuit I tested nearly two years ago was such that it sucked power from the ground. Ground point was significant as it did its thing only from certain location. Effect was that there was no change on input side but the sparks went wild. First sound was the usual rattling you get at 50 Hz. When ground was connected sound changed into whirling sound and I was amazed by it. I discovered it by accident when I played with caps, my finger touched the circuit via caps metallic casing. Later I got also shock from the ground, felt like a hefty handshake ripping my arm off. But did not know how to use this power without losing the effect. Later on I realised that maybe I should have put a trafo in the ground connection to take power from it, or use it to run second similar circuit. Did not try it though, I think there would need to be higher frequency source so it would suck power faster, and perhaps also put a capacitor. I once tried to replicate it using GDT as spark gap but it did not work so I quess it has to be open air spark.
 
br549 experiment reminded me of this so I thought I should post the circuit. Below falstad simulation, it does not show the effect but it is easier to draw. I used grid power and low power stepup trafo first to get 440 volts, this is not shown in the sim. I used iron trafo in the circuit, it had maybe 9 meters of wire per coil. I tested also using thinner wire, 165 ohms DC resistance so it would have much bigger induction effect, but it was not better. Now that I understand capacitive induction, for best results bifilar coil should be used here instead of separate coils.
 
The sim shows two spark gaps and two grounds. Both locations worked, but did not test using them at the same time. It also worked with one spark and ground. I omitted resistors for coils from the picture for clarity.
 
Below link needs to be combined into one line
 
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or if you know how to import:
 
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Below example how to connect two circuits in cascade. When power is taken via trafo that has the lamp, more power gets sucked in the circuit causing more intense sparks to occur. Sounds similar to TK device. But first someone needs to replicate one circuit.
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14282 on: October 03, 2012, 09:50:13 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14283 on: October 03, 2012, 10:59:40 AM »
I challenge both you and verpies to prove your statement mathematically with reference to Tesla's portable earthquake machine. Let's say his "tapping" machine consumed 10 watts. How many watts would it take to shake a building 100 meters high by 100 meters long by 20 meters deep to the point where let's say 20 workmen were panicking, convinced they were in an earthquake?
The mechanical resonance or LC resonance has been worked out completely since the 19th century. There is no energy gain in it - just accumulation and storage (most often with loss over time, a.k.a. dampening).
I will not repeat the equations on Wikipedia here. You can find them here and here.

The Q of the building is so low that a 10W tapper cannot break through the dampening effect of the construction. To shake it like that, MW would be required.

So the artificial earthquake story is fake or it was accomplished via other means than mechanical resonance.

P.S.
Watch Mytbusters. One of their episode busted the myth that a lock-stepped army platoon can resonate a bridge to destruction (wind - yes, boots - no) and in another episode they tried to shake a building and a bridge with a "tapper" like Tesla did allegedly - it did not work.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14284 on: October 03, 2012, 11:23:48 AM »
The very first circuit I tested nearly two years ago was such that it sucked power from the ground.
Did you make measurements to come to the conclusion that power was addded to the system?
How did you measure?
Regards

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14284 on: October 03, 2012, 11:23:48 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14285 on: October 03, 2012, 11:42:09 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14286 on: October 03, 2012, 11:53:31 AM »
Simple experiment
Source of static electricity, which is located between the ends of the coil, the coil magnet. Coil is connected to the LED.
While the magnet coil - the LED light. No magnet - not light.
I don't understand.
What is a "magnet coil" ?
What is the source of static electricity?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14286 on: October 03, 2012, 11:53:31 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14287 on: October 03, 2012, 12:04:34 PM »
I measured the input power in my step up trafo, no change with accuracy of 0.00 amps, it showed 0.31 amps all the time. I also had light there and no change in that either.
I based power increase on the sound of the sparks, reminded me of the sound car engine makes when nitro button is pressed, well sort of. Steady high pitch whizzle and much louder than without ground. I also poked it with amp meter and it went off scale. But it was digital so cannot trust that too much. However, it was within scale when ground was not connected and went off scale when ground was connected.
Third was a more painful observation. I adjusted the spark gap position one time since it did not fire properly, using iron tool lol. Occasionally fired but not constantly, no shock received. It seemed safe to poke it by one hand when circuit was operating. I was unable to get a decent spark so I placed the ground wire because it made spark more intense, while I was adjusting the spark with iron tool. Big shock on my left arm all the way up to my neck. Definetly it was sucking power from the gound, no doubt.
 
Haven't tested cascade version, could be that frequency goes up in the ground connection so second stage can suck more power. If this is not the case, then more power can be sucked using higher drive frequency than 50 Hz. This is worth testing, there is no resonant frequency so testing is easy. First try the one stage version, if it works then continue from that using cascade or without it using just plain trafo.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14288 on: October 03, 2012, 12:06:57 PM »
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« Last Edit: October 03, 2012, 04:03:14 PM by semenihin-77 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14289 on: October 03, 2012, 12:08:13 PM »
Watch Mytbusters. One of their episode busted the myth that a lock-stepped army platoon can resonate a bridge to destruction (wind - yes, boots - no) and in another episode they tried to shake a building and a bridge with a "tapper" like Tesla did allegedly - it did not work.

I watched part of the tapper episode. They stopped the test because it worked and they got scared. The effect was on certain frequency only. Don't have the link, it was in some long document that expainled rodin, VTA, SM and the rest.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14290 on: October 03, 2012, 12:10:32 PM »
verpies,
This what I think:

He means when there is no permanent magnet included in the coil the LED is not lit by the "static electricity" brought near to the coil.  And when there is a magnet in the coil then "something" initiates induction in the coil when "static electricity" is applied again.  "Static electricity"  (applied between the top and the bottom of the coil)  seems to come from a line output transformer.
I assume the line output transformer includes the HV rectifier diodes to make the static field.

EDIT  well, he already explained some more while I was answering.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14291 on: October 03, 2012, 12:16:35 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14292 on: October 03, 2012, 01:02:20 PM »
I do not know you have discussed here Mustafa007 scheme earlier this year. This man claimed that he had solved the secret of Kapanadze and drew a rough diagram. I personally talked to the man and he told me how he got through the current transformer 3000 W while consuming 400 watts.
This scheme is just the principle of the series resonance and the principle of amplitude modulation. The scheme must be working  as
principle.

Output only not shown demodulation

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14293 on: October 03, 2012, 01:13:22 PM »
I think it is no trouble to assemble a simplified diagram to determine operability

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14294 on: October 03, 2012, 01:19:55 PM »
Neodymium magnet in a coil and static electrofield, induces a current in the coil is connected to the LED.
Floor without coil neodymium magnet does not light the LED in the electrostatic field.

Hi Semenihin-77,

Have you already checked the waveform induced in the coil by an oscilloscope? if it is possible?  Just use say a 1 kOhm load resistor across the coil and watch the voltage across it by the scope.

Thanks,
Gyula

 

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