Author Topic: Animal cruelty, better be a vegetarian ! (Read 42694 times)

WilbyInebriated · « **Reply #15 on:** April 16, 2009, 08:09:19 PM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on April 11, 2009, 11:22:37 PM

Many thanks for these videos.

I removed the posting that made jokes of this.

It is a shame, that nowadays only a few supermarkets chains sell all the
food , as was said in the videos and they try to make as much profit as possible, but treating animals
and food like this in this terrible way.
In GB these are these 4 supermarket chains mentioned and in Germany
it is mainly now Lidl and Aldi.
They now have the whole market power.
So in this monopoly of food production chains,
they can do what they want...
and we all depend on it.

It is too bad...
all the other supermarkets are much more expensive and
will probably sooner or later die.

stephan i can't believe you removed my post. i wasn't making fun. i was using an analogy to explain how idiotic being a vegetarian is. humans are carnivores, that's why our eyes are on the front of our faces, so we can judge the distance to our prey. BUT THAT'S ALL BESIDE THE POINT.

your thread screams the idea that we should be vegetarians because of the way SOME manufacturers treat animals, THIS IS STUPID, SO IS YOUR CENSORSHIP. I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE YOU WOULD REMOVE THAT AND NOT SOME OF THE OTHER FUCKING GARBAGE ON THIS SITE. ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE!!! you might as well remove all my posts, i'm done posting here, everyone else should take the hint, if censorship is going to start in such idiotic thread that is unrelated to energy in any way whatsoever, what is going to happen to your your meaningful posts?

i'm done with your site. get a handle on what you should be censoring and what you shouldn't... the answer is nothing. asshole.

fuzzytomcat · « **Reply #16 on:** April 16, 2009, 08:56:06 PM »

Quote from: PYRODIN123321 on April 06, 2009, 10:58:55 PM

Ughh.....terrible....... nothing deserves that kind torture, if anything they should lead better lives than a wild animal as they are to be sacrificed, cancer and disease should be expected from bad practices like the video (which i didn't make it through either uhhh)........

I have killed animals and eaten them, problem is most people don't know what that's like- almost a religious experience when you think about the heavy ideas of death, life and survival. I can kill a rabbit or whatever and I don't feel bad cause deep down I know that's what we do, we kill to live, but to torture it and treat it like a thing rather than a animal.....whats the point, why?
laziness, greed, sadism, lack of empathy, etc
Maybe everybody should start getting their meat live and serve it on demand Lol

Hey PYRODIN123321,

I agree 100% with you ...... the problem today is the continued doom and gloom factor, some views are posted here at OverUnity in "we can't live without the truth" or other boards in this forum, where things are not as they are today when and where starvation happens not if it ever happens. When there is no spinach, Tofu or veggie burgers around the corner to eat when your so hungry and thirsty a bug or dirty water starts looking good depending on how long you went with out nourishment. To think of "steak and potatoes" without the steak ....... Humm

Anyone that is "cruel" to any animal

whether it's to eat or not should be found, prosecuted and jailed for there crime on natures defenseless animals. The harvesting of any animals for consumption should have international standards like the "Geneva Convention" on war ..... no exceptions ..... none.

Fuzzy

Nabo00o · « **Reply #17 on:** April 16, 2009, 09:48:22 PM »

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Anyone that is "cruel" to any animal Angry whether it's to eat or not should be found, prosecuted and jailed for there crime on natures defenseless animals. The harvesting of any animals for consumption should have international standards like the "Geneva Convention" on war ..... no exceptions ..... none.

Well, in the future this will probably not be done by forced law, but instead by the moral consensus of earth's inhabitants, those who don't want this will still continue eating meat though.
I was born vegetarian in my family here in Norway, home of the fishers

Still no big problem really, as partly said by someone earlier in the tread, you can easily make up for not eating meat by instead eating beans, they contains just as much (if not more) proteins. And from an environmental perspective you are using much less resources for the same amount of food, this is mainly due to the losses when you climb the food chains.

Fish is actually not necessary either. As some know, the primal reason to why fish may be necessary to eat is because it is our main source of Omega 3. The reason to this however is because they absorb it from animals and vegetables further down in the food chain, the originator being a form algae. We can actually eat this, and my farther is actually a really good chief, and often makes good dishes with pasta, tomatoes, beans and something called a Nori Algae, which he say actually tastes like fish (he used to eat meat when he was a kid).

At least for people who wants to try something different, try searching for good vegetarian recipes on the net, I especially recommend you all to try a lentil burger, its a kind of bean mashed and fried into that meat you find in burgers. Its REALLY good!

CRANKYpants · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2009, 11:04:31 PM »

I WILL TELL YOU WHY THEY TORTURE THE ANIMALS...!

I used to be a French Chef for 25 years - for the last 7 years of my Chef career I owned a restaurant which served Prime Rib roast as the main attraction - then I learned the truth.

THE TRUTH IS:

They torture the animals (deliberately) to raise their adrenaline and other FEAR hormone levels!
These natural - very powerful hormones stay in the meat after processing and cooking.
Poeple who eat this meat often become addicted to these natural chemicals in the meat - like cigarettes.

This adrenaline gives people a high - which they enjoy!
It also makes them violent - look at the most violent races (whites)- they eat this meat
Eskimos eat meat (raw) and which has not been tortured - so they are not violent unless given alcohol.

After I learned this TRUTH I changed my restaurant to a vegetarian, non-alcohol restaurant overnight so I could stop poisining my customers.

I sold the restaurant shortly thereafter (about the time I met gotoluc) - and the rest is history.

Cheers
Thane

ps
An experiment was performed where they fed rats raw vegetables - they lived peacefully...
then they changed the diet to cooked meat and vegetables... soon the rats began killing each other...
when their food was switched back to raw veggies peace was restored.

Nabo00o · « **Reply #19 on:** April 16, 2009, 11:10:49 PM »

No way! You're 100% sure of this!!!?!?

Didn't think men could be that evil.....

CRANKYpants · « **Reply #20 on:** April 16, 2009, 11:25:24 PM »

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No way! You're 100% sure of this!!!?!?

Didn't think men could be that evil.....

If a person lives long enough - they will conclude that there is NO LIMIT to man's cruelty and evil.

For example - In Darfur roaming "ethnic cleansing gangs" will cut the male genitals off small children and force the mother to watch her child bleed to death in front of her before she herself is raped and murdered.

Sadly this is who we are as a species.
Thane

Nabo00o · « **Reply #21 on:** April 16, 2009, 11:37:06 PM »

Quote from: CRANKYpants on April 16, 2009, 11:25:24 PM

If a person lives long enough - they will conclude that there is NO LIMIT to man's cruelty and evil.

For example - In Darfur roaming "ethnic cleansing gangs" will cut the male genitals off small children and force the mother to watch her child bleed to death in front of her before she herself is raped and murdered.

Sadly this is who we are as a species.
Thane

This is what happens when you give animals intelligence.
But in the end the animals also evolves their empathy, and so turns into 'real humane beings'. which we at general haven't turned into yet.
But there is a purpose to everything, even suffering, although I don't believe this belongs in the Food health category

AhuraMazda · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2009, 12:37:02 AM »

Quote from: CRANKYpants on April 16, 2009, 11:04:31 PM

I WILL TELL YOU WHY THEY TORTURE THE ANIMALS...!

I used to be a French Chef for 25 years - for the last 7 years of my Chef career I owned a restaurant which served Prime Rib roast as the main attraction - then I learned the truth.

THE TRUTH IS:

They torture the animals (deliberately) to raise their adrenaline and other FEAR hormone levels!
These natural - very powerful hormones stay in the meat after processing and cooking.
Poeple who eat this meat often become addicted to these natural chemicals in the meat - like cigarettes.

This adrenaline gives people a high - which they enjoy!
It also makes them violent - look at the most violent races (whites)- they eat this meat
Eskimos eat meat (raw) and which has not been tortured - so they are not violent unless given alcohol.

After I learned this TRUTH I changed my restaurant to a vegetarian, non-alcohol restaurant overnight so I could stop poisining my customers.

I sold the restaurant shortly thereafter (about the time I met gotoluc) - and the rest is history.

Cheers
Thane

ps
An experiment was performed where they fed rats raw vegetables - they lived peacefully...
then they changed the diet to cooked meat and vegetables... soon the rats began killing each other...
when their food was switched back to raw veggies peace was restored.

@Thane
Thanks. I had heard many years ago. Also the Hindu teachers blame wars on the culture of eating meat.
I know the french take their food science to the extreme but the people and companirs we see in these videos are not interested in what they produce other than profit. Clearly the taste of food does not exist in their culture.
In any case I would advise anyone wanting to comment on this thread to watch the video.

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #23 on:** April 17, 2009, 12:41:17 AM »

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An experiment was performed where they fed rats raw vegetables - they lived peacefully...
then they changed the diet to cooked meat and vegetables... soon the rats began killing each other...
when their food was switched back to raw veggies peace was restored.

Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler were non-smoking and non-drinking vegetarians !

Go figure

Hans von Lieven

Nabo00o · « **Reply #24 on:** April 17, 2009, 02:32:27 AM »

George Bush was a republican......
Does that make every republican a complete retard? NO!

Go figure....

utilitarian · « **Reply #25 on:** April 17, 2009, 03:01:46 AM »

Quote from: hansvonlieven on April 17, 2009, 12:41:17 AM

Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler were non-smoking and non-drinking vegetarians !

Go figure

Hans von Lieven

That is actually a popular myth. Hitler was not a vegetarian. He was fond of liver dunplings. Just Google it - there is tons of evidence against this myth.

Not sure about Himmler.

Myself, I have given up pork and veal, because I know how particularly cruelly pigs and veal calves are treated. I wish I could make the full leap, but can't quite give up beef, chicken and fish yet.

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #26 on:** April 17, 2009, 05:26:01 PM »

True, Hitler was a meat eater once. After the death of Geli Raubal however he became a vegetarian and never returned to eating meat.

Hans von Lieven

reada · « **Reply #27 on:** April 17, 2009, 06:12:49 PM »

@CRANKYpants
i never knew there was a connection between adrenalin in meat and aggression
now it makes perfect sense (to me)

@Utilitarian
i'm having quite the same troubles with fish but i'm slowly getting to not eat anything that had a face

reada

CRANKYpants · « **Reply #28 on:** April 18, 2009, 07:42:36 PM »

Quote from: hansvonlieven on April 17, 2009, 12:41:17 AM

Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler were non-smoking and non-drinking vegetarians !

Go figure

Hans von Lieven

Yes but they were GERMAN non-smoking, non-drinking vegetarians - that explains it!

NEVER trust a German - just ask our ex-PM Brian Mulroney...

Cheers
T

CRANKYpants · « **Reply #29 on:** April 18, 2009, 07:44:50 PM »

Quote from: Nabo00o on April 17, 2009, 02:32:27 AM

George Bush was a republican......
Does that make every republican a complete retard? NO!

Go figure....

No but it DOES make every Bush a retart though...doesn't it! $:-\$

T

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