Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243078 times)

mrd10 · « **Reply #960 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:30:04 PM »

Exactly, there's very little in his first prototypes, He also mentions in that its like a turbine jet engine, when he removes the magnet, it winds down slowly, and this come to think about it, might be the magnetic field which is slowly dieing down, I know this may sound like bullshit, but something tells me that its easier than we think, and were barking up the wrong tree. Again I think we should experiment the way he has his first prototypes made, as these you can clearly see two rings and werent taped up like the later ones that he shows.

I think thats where we should start, keep it simple stupid...KISS comes to mind, maybe he found this by accident, or it dawned upon him by researching other technologies....who knows for sure.

But its where Im going to head first off.

If you guys have made a start at his project and can make a jump by trying it, this would help me as well, since im stuck on another project, which im eager to finish.

Lets Help each other out.

Kindest Regards,

Mrd

gn0stik · « **Reply #961 on:** October 03, 2006, 04:20:42 PM »

Quote from: supersam on October 03, 2006, 09:01:04 AM

tao,

i hate to ask it , but can a longitudinal transfer of electicity actually lets say run a motor? if so please explain how if it has no magnetic force, which would give it the mass to do so?

shuttinup, shuttinup.
sam

Dude, you need to do some research aside from this thread. Suggested reading topics, Heaviside Flow, JC Maxwell, Tesla, Edwin Gray, Floyd Sweet, Ed Leedskalning, TH Moray. That's a good start. By the time you read about edwin gray a bit you should have that question answered.

@Tao Nice work, I have read the first, but not the other two, yet.... It takes a while to assimilate this stuff into what we've already talked about.

Do you have a doc in which you've compiled all of the pertient info yet?

mrd10 · « **Reply #962 on:** October 03, 2006, 06:46:36 PM »

Guys concentrate on these two, I snapped them in power dvd, the more you make sense of these images, the better will be to design.
From what i can tell look at the bailing wire, on the two rings of his first one, if you look at the bottom there seems to be two, half circumference
and on the top ring where he places the magnet on the coil, theres maybe 6 coils, which include the output.

Its the interaction between the way he has his coils setup, look how he has wound the bailing wire, it looks square or traingle configuration, pay particular attention to this. ive posted a few pics, if someone knows to enhance the images or enhance how the coils are done, i think were on the right track. I havent wound any coils yet so im not familiar with coil setup, i believe this small version is like the larger one he made, because if you look at the cutout of the larger one, it seems empty, so he has probably wound this same configuration around the cork like material.

Again concentrate on his first version, i think there is enough there to create it, if we can work out the way he has wound it, the copper winding ontop might be setup like a crystal radio setup, Ive been told you can make it with a coil.

bailing wire is the key and the way its wound, someone on this forum must be able to figure this out, ill try myself when it comes to it.

Cheers,

Mrd

giantkiller · « **Reply #963 on:** October 03, 2006, 08:34:49 PM »

Ponder this:
To start with you have two equally wound seperate coils. One is air core(#1) and one is iron core (#2). A desired freq, square wave is pumped into the air core and we get the kicks with the base freq. The magnetic field flies outward to the iron core coil #2 which gets saturated. On the #2 you would get the DC saturation with an dampened ac on top, no? Now just play with the turns ratio and coil spacing for increasing the output.
The dampened ac on the output could be harvested back through a feedback loop across a tuned tank circuit to trigger an input action into the #1 air coil. This creates a closed loop Tesla coil, No?

dean_mcgowan · « **Reply #964 on:** October 04, 2006, 02:06:37 AM »

K.I.S.S

I have been trying to politely say this all along, I have watched and read most everything that has been reffered over the years and it all keeps pointing straight back to the same basic design. I honestly think tao is on the money and when Paul Lowrance reveals his design we are going to once again see the same thing again.

Its all just going to come down to resonance and materials used in a very simple configuration.

Life was not meant to be as complicated as those that need to feel superior wish to make it.

Cheers,

Dean

Mr_Video · « **Reply #965 on:** October 04, 2006, 04:29:51 AM »

K.I.S.S.

I agree with some of the posters here that we need to step back from all the theorizing and outright guessing about how SM's TPU is built, based on some fuzzy videos .

I want to see someone succeed in building a working TPU as much as anyone, but the best place to start IMHO is the same circuit that SM started with,

a 5U4 power supply .

it's easy to build (no guesswork) and most of us can build one from memory & readily available parts, and even if you don't have a 5U4 on hand, then make one with 2 diodes an a resistor (it's where I would start if my lab was set up)

and then start playing around with the phase between the 2 output windings and look for the anomalies that SM was talking about, and go from there .

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I originally got the idea from electron circuits which use vacuum rectifiers like the 5U4 GB or 5AR4 etc. The plate has a high voltage potential with lots of useable power available. You cant get to it or use it for anything without applying a heating voltage to the cathode or what is the cathode potential of the tube. So, you put in a small voltage of 5 volts AC 60 Hz which heats up the cathode and welcomes the electron stream from the plate. Or actually the other way around, but not important for this example of my thoughts. Now the high voltage power goes through the cathode and travels through the coils of the 5 volt transformer along with the 5 volt AC. if the plate voltage is not rectified then it is AC with a potential 60 Hz frequency. That combines with the 5 volt 60 Hz in the coil of the htr transformer and generally amounts to nothing. In fact the power of the 5 volt transformer amounts to nothing. It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another.Then you can measure all kinds of things going on. You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds. What I measured during this process was very interesting. All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick at the output.

giantkiller · « **Reply #966 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:19:57 AM »

@Kosh
You're right about the lateral resistance. That is because the center of the toriodial field is in the center. With harmonic overlapping of 2 counter-rotating magnetic fields I will be able to vary the field strength to push the center off to one side. This will give an imbalance and the toroid will easy go towards the side of least resistance. Much like the image of a sideways teardrop until re-centering is gained. The magnetic bubble off balance has been proven in physics. I saw it some years ago in another study when I was following the building and construction of the Tokamak. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak
And that is area of toriodial operation I am aiming for with the controller I am building. I did post the schematic at time back, post page 211. The step after I run my coil is to focus on making a bigger one that is flame retardant. I plan on smoking the one in my avatar.
Big field, big fun.

Later.

supersam · « **Reply #967 on:** October 04, 2006, 08:44:08 AM »

mr video,
why can't someone computer enhance the steven marks videos? is just because they were shot in the ninties useing whatlooked to be sixties 8mm? that is with no lighting enhancements.

lol
sam

ps:what is my reading list for tomorrow , rich? i will guarantee it will not just be here.

have you got some more old theoritical stuff that no one else has figured out except you and them? come on this is the computer age lets bring it on-line!

raburgeson · « **Reply #968 on:** October 04, 2006, 09:42:56 AM »

Alright, wish I had more time, overlooked, listen carefully, failing because you don't know how to read.
Said in pertinent posts, posted (output perpendicular to many wires), first clue on this, Posted (if you draw a magnet the lenth of a wire) or the lenth of many.
Make detailed notes on everything said and compare notes, Steven is not trying to teach you to understand the Moray device or any other than his own. I have coiled wire both laterally and longitudely around my coil.
I have changed my configuration of number of coils on the toroid because of math problems, I have not however abandoned Steven's theories set forth. Imagine a rotating magnetic force traveling though wires wraped so the force cuts lenthwise.

energyman8 · « **Reply #969 on:** October 04, 2006, 09:56:38 AM »

Tao,

Im reading you, great information

giantkiller · « **Reply #970 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:06:48 PM »

Well said Gentlemen!

My current status is:

Controler Current status:
Sockets in place, wiring in place, cable terminals in place.
Items in need are the 556 timer parts in place, plug in chips.

Have 12 amp power supply just waiting to go.

Events taking place:
(

Buz11s, (

IRF840s (Thanks for the driver circuit, Marco) are coming in the mail. Will build the driver board next.

Coil ready to plug in and jumpered correctly.

I think faster than I work... My goal is: A ferrite core, 2 intertwined coils 1:1, counterrotating fields, hi/low speed.
But the current posts here about the Marco & CTGlabs results are fantastic!

giantkiller · « **Reply #971 on:** October 04, 2006, 07:19:28 PM »

Yes.
Believe it or not I have 25 year old 20mhz single trace, xy channel Heathkit scope I built.
Through Steve Ciarcia of Byte magazine http://www.circuitcellar.com/I was able to turn it into a 8/16 trace digital scope(TTL only). I have the circuit and schemetic that I'll post later.

giantkiller · « **Reply #972 on:** October 04, 2006, 08:26:48 PM »

I had it upto 16 traces once on a very complex project. It was like watching bad tv.

supersam · « **Reply #973 on:** October 04, 2006, 10:21:03 PM »

marcos,
if you are going to rewind coils why not rewrap them on something else that makes alot of since,mathematics? you might want to try and wind some coils along the lines of rodins coil. at least as far as his theory is concerned back a few years back it seems to make since to alot of people.

i am reluctant to post a website to his but you might want to google mark rodin mathmatics. don't worry if your not a math genius i think it looks like he was. at least in his time.

lol
sam

ps: just another theory in the right direction.

pese · « **Reply #974 on:** October 04, 2006, 10:24:33 PM »

GIVE attention to test voltages from NON Sinus (or DC) Sources.

http://www.padrak.com/ine/DANGERSPOWER.html

Best
Pese

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