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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #6196 on: July 24, 2014, 08:48:18 AM »
                          ENERGY AMPLIFICATION = ENERGY CELERATION
                                                                                   ac-/de-
                                                                                   catalysis
                                                                                   cata~genesis/ (e-)volution

                                                 f.e.: rotatory
                         http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Rotoverter

        Cutting the Voltage in half also cuts the current in half, which cuts the Power input by 75%!
                        VOLTAGE CELERATION is  ( VOLTAGE + CURRENT ) CELERATION 

( Once the motor is Power Factor Corrected for this voltage, the motor will appear to run on NEARLY NOTHING!!!! And of course, that is the point.)


http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19790215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
                                       
                                      Mukherjee Rotoverter,first published 1977

Durch das Magnetfeld der elektrischen Einrichtung fliesst infolge der Leiter an dem Anker in der gewünschten Richtung ein einseitig gerichteter Strom, wodurch auf den Anker durch sein Magnetfeld und somit auf die Welle fortlaufend eine Kraft ausgeübt wird, die die von dem Generator ausgeübte Gegenkraft kompensiert.[/font]Wenn bei einem herkömmlichen Generator die Feldstärke B, die Länge seiner Leiter mit L und der durchfliessende Strom mit I bezeichnet wird, ergibt sich die Grösse der Gegenkraft F, die auf den Leiter und somit auf die Welle ausgeübt wird zu F = BLI.Wenn die Feldstärke der elektrischen Einrichtung 2B, die Länge seines Leiters L beträgt und nur ein Strom durchfiiesst, dessen Stärke der Hälfte des im Generator fliessenden Stroms entspricht, beträgt die auf den Anker ausgeübte Kraft F' = 2B x L x 1 = LI. 2 Dies zeigt, dass die auf den Anker der elektrischen Einrichtung und somit auf die treibende Welle ausgeübte Kraft gleich der Gegenkraft ist, die auf die Welle von dem herkömmlichen Generator ausgeübt wird. Die Kraft wird erzeugt, dass sie in einer solchen Richtung wirkt, dass sie die Gegenkraft kompensiert. Ein etwas stärkerer Stromfluss sorgt für das erforderliche Drehmoment an der Welle. Deshalb werden die Welle und somit der Anker weiterbewegt und elektrische Energie erzeugt.Um diesen halben Strom durch die elektrische Einrichtung fliessen zu lassen, ist die Hälfte der Generatorspannung erforderlich. So mit wird 1/4 der erzeugten Leistung verloren, um der Verzögerungskraft engegenzuwirken. Die verbleibenden 3/4 der erzeugten Energie bzw. etwas weniger davon stehen für den Aussenverbrauch zur Verfügung.Wenn die Feldstärke der elektrischen Einrichtung ein Vielfaches der Feldstärke des Generators beträgt, beispielsweise das 5-Fache, ist es erforderlich, dass 1/5 des erzeugten Stroms in der elektrischen Einrichtung fliesst, um die kompensierende Kraft zu erzeugen. 1/5 der erzeugten Spannung ist dabei für den Stromfluss erforderlich. Somit wird 1/25 oder 4% der erzeugten Energie in der elektrischen Einrichtung verbraucht, während 96% oder etwas weniger davon für den Aussenverbrauch zur Verfügung stehen. Auf diese Weise ist es nicht erforderlich, dass irgendeine elektrische Energie von einer externen Quelle in den Generator gemäss der Erfindung zur Erzeugung von elektrischer Energie eingeführt wird.


                                     partial Mukherjee Rotoverter description       
         
                                       Saxonian 2 Anglo-Saxonian translatory :


By the magnetic field of the electrical device to flow due to the head of the anchor in the desired direction is a unidirectional flow, thereby continuously exerting a force on the armature by means of its magnetic field and therefore to the shaft, which compensates for the force exerted by the generator counterforce. in a conventional generator, the field strength B, the length of its conductor L and the current flowing through is denoted I, the result is the size of the reaction force F which is exerted on the conductor and thus to the shaft to F = BLI ., if the field strength of the electric apparatus 2B, the length of his head is L and only one current durchfiiesst, corresponds to the thickness of half of the current flowing in the generator current, is the force exerted on the armature force F '= 2B x L x 1 = LI. 2 This shows that the force exerted on the armature of the electrical device, and thus the driving shaft of the motor is equal to counter force which will be exerted on the shaft from the conventional generator. The force is generated to act in a direction such that it compensates the reaction force. A stronger current flow provides the required torque to the shaft. Therefore, the shaft, and hence the armature continues to move and allow electrical energy to flow erzeugt.Um half this current flows through the electrical device, the half of the voltage generator is required. So with is 1/4 of the power generated is lost to engegenzuwirken the retarding force. The remaining 3/4 of the energy generated, or slightly less of it available for outdoor use for Verfügung.


Wenn the field strength of the electrical device is a multiple of the field strength of the generator, for example, 5 times, it is necessary that 1/5 of the produced current flows in the electrical device in order to generate the compensating force. 1/5 of the generated voltage is required for the current flow. Thus, 1/25 or 4% of the energy produced is consumed in the electric device, while 96% or less of which are for outdoor use are available.


 In this way it is not necessary that any electrical energy from an external source is introduced into the generator according to the invention for generating electric energy.


                           q.e.d. ,the overunity-formula abstracts and concrets

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                   relatively cheap rotoverter mosaic object fabrication,open source :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=5&adjacent=true&FT=D&date=19940614&CC=US&NR=5319844A&KC=A

                                           5hp/lbs power/material density

                                                            the vision :
                                         the 10 US$/ KW revolving e-gas-turbine


                          like Roy Kessinger,Lynx Motion Technology, "low cost" prophecy :
                                 http://www.katech.com/katfiles/people.html


                          as dynamoelectric multi-slice-motor and as multi-slice-generator                                       
                                 with  production  costs going down to 5US$/hp


                            and Reinhardts ex-spectation  about Co-Gen costs:
    http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/04/concept-compact-twocycle-cogenerating-pistondriven-turbine-to-deliver-60-efficiency.html :

                  The Reinhardt Turbine is designed to be compact, cost-effective and easy to manufacture. Andrews estimates that the manufactured cost per kW will be less than $10, so a 30 kW engine would cost around $300


Have a good day
                           OCWL


p.s.: alternatively              ram pump ( in memoriam Toribio Bellocq )
                                   http://www.rexresearch.com/Kutienkov/kutienkov.htm


              Cost of used materials and manufacturing from them details for the given generator,                                               as claim its developers,does not exceed 10EUR/kW.


                                                 10 EUR/KW ,
                                                                     the aristocratic Bench-Mark
                                                 10 US$/KW

                                            1Cent/Wp-Nantennas  and   Nano-machines :


                http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860304&CC=US&NR=4574161A&KC=A
Polarizing sheets are now articles commercially manufactured by a bulk process at low cost by a large scale special film casting machine, the basic cost being about $1 per m@2 (1984 dollars). The present invention utilizes a similar bulk process. The casting composition@3 is modified to employ the special heteropolymer of this invention made on a similar casting machine@4. The cost should be comparable. The extra cost of electroding and laminating will add only a few dollars per m@2 so the total should be about $5/m@2 (500 w), about 50.cent./sq. ft. The efficiency will remain in the 60-80% range. Thus solar energy will become available everywhere at about 1.cent./watt; or, an investment cost of $10/KW.


http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A


The reversible thermoelectric converter used as a heat pump differs from the use of the reversible thermoelectric converter for power conversion in that means is used to reverse the current through the diodes 10 and 20. Current reversal can be obtained by applying a voltage from a DC source 52 between the output terminals 14 and 24. Alternatively, a voltage can be applied between the terminals of diode 20 to obtain current reversal. The current reversal occurs when the voltage applied by DC source 52 has a larger magnitude and opposite polarity as compared with the open circuit output voltage of the reversible thermoelectric converter. The ratio of the open circuit voltage to the contact potential across the diode electrodes is given by (Tr /Tc -1).[/font]The reversible thermoelectric converter shown in FIG. 1 can be used to provide an AC power output. For AC operation, the current through the reversible thermoelectric converter is reversed cyclically so that the converter generates a cyclic electric or thermal power output. A cyclic input can be applied between the terminals 22 and 24 of the cold diode 20 so as to generate a cyclic output with the same waveform as the input. The frequency of the cyclic output power can be as great as the frequency corresponding to the relaxation time of the reversible thermoelectric converter, which can be less than 10@-14 second. When a cyclic or AC input is used, the reversible thermoelectric converter can function as an amplifier.Use of the reversible thermoelectric converter as an amplifier is shown schematically in FIG. 7. An AC signal Pin is applied to quantum well diode 20 at a low temperature Tc and input thermal energy is applied to quantum well diode 10 at a high temperature Tr. The AC signal Pin can be in the form of thermal energy, such as optical photons, or in the form of electric energy, such as a voltage applied across terminals 22 and 24 of diode 20. The output electric energy Pout is an AC signal with the waveform of the input signal Pin. The amplification factor is given by (Tr@2 /Tc@2)-1, where the input AC signal is applied to the cold diode at temperature Tc in the form of thermal or electrical energy.By way of example, an input signal of 6 microwatts with a bandwidth of 1 gigahertz is applied to diode 20 either as thermal energy or electric energy, and thermal energy is applied to diode 10. A signal-to-noise ration of 60 dB is obtained for the input signal for a temperature Tc of the cold diode 20 of 300 DEG K. For a temperature Tr of hot electrons in diode 10 of 6000 DEG K., the amplification of the input signal is 26 dB, which gives an output signal of 2.4 milliwatts. The amplified output signal also has a 60 dB signal-to-noise ratio.Use of the reversible thermoelectric converter as a refrigerator is shown in FIG. 8. In this case, thermal energy is transferred out of a low temperature region 54 at temperature Tc containing quantum well diode 20, and thermal energy is given off by quantum well diode 10 at a higher temperature Tr. A DC source 56 connected between output terminals 14 and 24 causes the normal direction of current in the reversible thermoelectric converter to be reversed, as described above in connection with the heat pump of FIG. 6. The refrigeration cycle shown in FIG. 8 is similar in concept to the heat pump cycle shown in FIG. 6 and described above.The quantum well structure in the quantum well diode contains the thermal energy of the hot electrons throughout the period of time required for the input thermal energy to be converted to electric energy by reversible electron transitions between energy levels. The quantum well diode serves a similar function for the heat pump process. The elimination of the requirement for a separate thermal barrier in the reversible thermoelectric converter of the present invention permits low cost, state of the art fabrication of the converter from thin films of common materials such as, for example, copper and aluminum.
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In the nonplanar reversible thermoelectric converter of FIG. 10, electrode 136 can be a 100 angstrom evaporated copper film, barrier layer 140 can be a 12 angstrom evaporated aluminum oxide film, electrode 138 can be a 140 angstrom evaporated aluminum film, barrier layer 148 can be a 700 angstrom deposited indium tin oxide transparent conducting film, electrode 142 can be a 280 angstrom evaporated aluminum film, barrier layer 146 can be a 12 angstrom evaporated aluminum oxide film and electrode 144 can be a 140 angstrom evaporated copper film. Terminal 154 is typically connected to terminal 156. For this embodiment of the invention, 1 kilowatt of output power is available per square centimeter of active area of the quantum well diodes.
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Who understands the rotoverter principle,the Diods/Condensator/Capacitor use function
 and the Joseph Yater nanoscale reversible heat-refrigeration-pump and nano-scale thermal-noise/voltaic amplifier function will now not more have logical resistances to understand this  micro-scale amplifier concept:

             http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3


  ( and will also find calculating errors : the given example not near 11 KW,but more in the 3KW range)
« Last Edit: July 24, 2014, 03:42:06 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #6197 on: July 24, 2014, 01:08:44 PM »
Hey Bob
 I must have missed that post somehow.
A very interesting read on the WFC and Tesla choke.

A few months back I ran across V8carlos's work,
He used a bifilar primary, pulsed one winding and ran the bemf from that winding into the other winding and reported overunity results.
He put out a pdf this is the schematic from that pdf.
Do you have a link to V8carlos' pdf?ThanksDonL


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« Reply #6198 on: July 24, 2014, 01:44:32 PM »
I saved it, let me see if I can upload it.
Not sure how to upload pdf files.

Do a search for V8karlos on this forum, he came here in 2012, got ran off by the "know it all's" on this forum.


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« Reply #6199 on: July 24, 2014, 02:19:10 PM »
Non inverted buck boost converter using separate chokes  ;)

 

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« Reply #6200 on: July 24, 2014, 04:26:28 PM »
Im going to have to build another WFC.


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« Reply #6201 on: July 24, 2014, 06:01:46 PM »
Complementary transistors


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« Reply #6202 on: July 24, 2014, 07:11:09 PM »
The convergence is happening (I hope). ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #6203 on: July 24, 2014, 07:18:15 PM »
Counsel
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using sever thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower. I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.
Tesla
Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts. When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation. Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts. Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 10^4)^2, and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000. You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.
Counsel
What I wanted to get at was, did that depend upon the suddenness of the discharge?
Tesla
Yes. It is merely the electrical analogue of a pile driver or a hammer. You accumulate energy through a long distance and then you deliver it with a tremendous suddenness. The distance through which the mass moves is small--the pressure immense.
Source: Leland Anderson, NT on His Work With Alternating Currents, p. 68.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #6204 on: July 24, 2014, 10:27:43 PM »
Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy?  This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it.  It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it.  Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes.  I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM )

Rgds,  Gyula

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« Reply #6205 on: July 24, 2014, 10:58:15 PM »
If the buck converter ran at double or even triple the frequency of the boost then the cap would build up and dump into the boost converter.
You could hit the cell with very high voltage pulses, very high.
Lots of possibility's with this circuit.
It could also be set up to hit the cell with very high amperage pulses.
Ionize the coils  ;)

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« Reply #6206 on: July 25, 2014, 01:17:59 AM »
Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy?  This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it.  It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it.  Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes.  I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM )

Rgds,  Gyula
Hi Gyula
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I think at this point we have at least a clearer idea of how to proceed with trying to develop Tito's concepts. Tesla gives us the principle, but within his scope of developing large amounts of power, and it seems John Myatt (from Stan Meyer) has used it for his wfc purposes. Igor's video, I think, is useful for illustrating a similar kind of bemf feedback concept that needs to be refined and adapted to our purposes, in light of what Tesla (and Myatt/Meyer) says.  My sense is that we need to keep looking at practical ways in which these principles have been developed and implemented, and discussing ways we can develop them ourselves.  I think this is what Dave45 is doing - we all bring to the virtual table our gifts and insights.
 
Perhaps 10 or 15 pages back, Tito mentioned that he was considering how he could find off-the-shelf components to develop this technology. I think this might be a direction for us to proceed once we've identified how to harness this beast and use it to our purposes.  It's really great to see this quest progressing and narrowing.
 
I have no additional answers right now other than to express my appreciation and admiration for the ongoing contributions of persons like yourself to this discussion.
Bob
 
PS: Teets, those epic fail videos make me wince! Ouch!!! :o

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« Reply #6207 on: July 25, 2014, 04:09:45 AM »
Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy?  This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it.  It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it.  Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes.  I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM )

Rgds,  Gyula


Well, consider a motor without a capacitor.
well, lately i tried to eliminate a cap from the system and it also works using just the twisted coil i taught.
And believe me we need a good spark gap controller if we really want the tesla technology.  ;)


Take note: No inverter! promise!


EVERYTHING IS COIL AMAZING! 8)  IT REALLY CAN LAST!!!


I SAID DON'T KILL THE MOMENTUM, LET THE STONE ICE ROLL :)   8)


ACTUALLY 10W OF POWER TO START IS TOO BIG.  :-\


WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE STARTING POINT OF MORRAY.  ??? 


IN THE COLORADO SPRING NOTE, WHAT DO YOU NOTICE ABOUT TESLA'S COILS. :o


THIS THING IS REALLY SIMPLE OK.  :) ;) 8)


BY THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ERIC LAITHWAITE FOR HIS GYRO PROPULSION THAT'S AMAZING. ;) 8)
I WAN NA FLY!!!!!!!!! ;D
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyvZGIlHEok 8)
SORRY JUST CROSSING BYE  ;)


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« Reply #6208 on: July 25, 2014, 05:09:57 AM »
Hello gyula,
quoting partially your message to Bob Smith:

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Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up. [/size]What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM
Rgds,  Gyula


I prefer to show you one of Titos delivered videos : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs&list=PLDC9F40DD5D92136D


                 The a. one down rolling ball solution and effect,11 to 11,5 cm   
                        b. the 180° pendulum (LC circuit/cycle )solution and effect,30 cm
                        c. the 270°(up to 360°) double  pendulum (flip&flop LC circuits/cycle )solution and effect, ? cm

                                                           
                                                 

  LLoyd Crump http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=lloyd+crump&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC
                       4., 5., 6., 7., 9., 10., 11., 12.


                     "......So several stages should be used ....."  : syphon cascade                   Biology analogon  : Turgor
             
Sincerely
              OCWL

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #6209 on: July 25, 2014, 02:15:21 PM »
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