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Author Topic: Proven, smartphone-sized overunity (open sourced:) Steven E. Jones 8x overunity  (Read 2931 times)

ramset

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Bill AKA pirate ( he had some numbers after his pirate
Will look up for links ( he was one of first “member moderators”here
I believe In original Kapanadze topic too ?
Worked with Jenna here on other things (earth batteries “stublefield etc etc


Anyhow
Bill’s use of dead AAA while lighting 400 LED’s
On his Christmas tree,
Was I believe attributed to battery weirdness from jule thief pulsing
Also I think DogOne recently mentioned his experiences with pulsing batteries
ALA Bedini ?( swapping or cycling out batteries in his solar arrays
And yes there were energies available
However it was reflected in damage to battery bank .( something chemically happening inside)


Will have to search for actual quote for certainty
DogOnes comment was fairly recent.


Regardless
It would be good if additional life could be had from batteries
Or if as adrouk suggests it is some other ….?


Myself
Heavily leaning towards battery chemistry adding ….


Will try to reach Dr.Jones for his opinions on this
Seems we spoke few years back about his 8x claim
And he did not redact or totally write off as failed.


Felt something odd was in play ?


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Also as Cloxxi mentioned
Capacitor experiments?
Honestly I believe this was also tried years back ( to rule out battery chemistry contributions

lancaIV

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.homemade-circuits.com/8x-overunity-circuit-using-joule-thief/amp/

Although we are discussing just a fraction of milliwatts here, it's a good start and enough to prove the a substantial 8x overunity.
Rationality and economics should ever be part from R&D !
Arie de Geus other for ( battery,photon- voltaic device )DC/AC inversion important publication :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20071005&CC=NL&NR=1031494C1&KC=C1#
To read : original document ,in finest ' netherlandic longue  '  ;) ,Plattdu(e)tch ! Or PDF-translator !
wmbr

OCWL

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It might be the real reason behind the law prepared in EU to ban lead acid batteries, as no other type of batteries in mass production can display this effect for real gain power. I can see almost everywhere the latest tech is pushed only for micro watt production while trying to cut/disrupt anything that might lead individuals to get something usable in their daily life to get rid of the enslaving power grids.

So, special way to connect batteries to load and electronic circuit + battery might create the same effect ? Just imagine the benefit for transport if this can be found

adrouk

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Although we are discussing just a fraction of milliwatts here, it's a good start and enough to prove the a substantial 8x overunity.

If you can tell me how is possible to run an led of 3 volts 20 mA for 275 days continuous from just 3 AA rechargeable batteries (actually 6) wouldn’t be a huge challenge to scale up to desired load, is it ? Just think that you might not need a power bank for your solar system to be designed with tens of expensive batteries to back up your power needs for 2-3 days.

lancaIV

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It might be the real reason behind the law prepared in EU to ban lead acid batteries, as no other type of batteries in mass production can display this effect for real gain power. I can see almost everywhere the latest tech is pushed only for micro watt production while trying to cut/disrupt anything that might lead individuals to get something usable in their daily life to get rid of the enslaving power grids.

So, special way to connect batteries to load and electronic circuit + battery might create the same effect ? Just imagine the benefit for transport if this can be found
Similar this conceptual idea ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5#
With C.O.P. ≥ 3 and You install Your heat pump with a rotoverter drive + above battery circuit ,Your e-mobile with a rotoverter drive + ....,Your e-plane typo Cri-Cri with a rotoverter drive + .....,Your cruise missile with ....

lancaIV

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If you can tell me how is possible to run an led of 3 volts 20 mA for 275 days continuous from just 3 AA rechargeable batteries (actually 6) wouldn’t be a huge challenge to scale up to desired load, is it ? Just think that you might not need a power bank for your solar system to be designed with tens of expensive batteries to back up your power needs for 2-3 days.
fractional milliWatts x 1000 = fractional Watts x 1000 = fractional KiloWatts
1 000 000 x or 10⁶ upscaling !? Size ?
1 KW NanoBOXX size ?
https://techconnectworld.com/World2017/a.php?i=1125
' back up your power needs for 2-3 days.' ? ,  not ! ,they : (Joseph) Birmingham Technology claims ≥ 10 years ,3652,5 days +

Btw : lead battery alternative ,iron2rust2iron cycle
https://newatlas.com/energy/form-energy-iron-air-battery-bezos/

A base source for cascading systems !?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931111&CC=DE&NR=4222678A1&KC=A1#
Approved and granted ,C1 and C2 !
Is here the ' electrical unit' not as same a this ' microorganism battery ' above to see ? ! :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1#


About size and consume/generation :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XAPcN3jRuEg  ~    9V x 0,01 A


The liquid stimulating ? Brownian motion enhancer !
https://nanobox.ie/
Or :
https://paxscientific.com/water-techThe PAX Water Mixer can circulate 10 million gallons with the same energy footprint as three 100-watt light bulbs


Btw: the poste ' rechargeable' as roto-verter ' rechargeable circuit' concept,anno 1940,but how do we CONVENTIONAL connect 2023   +  and - pole,and how Mr.Debuyst ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=&CC=BE&NR=438189A&KC=A#
. I must also draw your attention to the way the accumulator is connected.

This is connected from the positive of the dynamos to the positive of the accumulator and from the to the motor and the same connection for the negative, as it is marked on the drawing, it is not a question of confusing, because if have but the positive from the dynamos to the negative of the accumulator, and the negative of the dynamos to the positive of the accumulator, the voltage would be doubled and the motor would be burned.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2023, 05:13:44 PM by lancaIV »

nightlife

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I feel that there is too much radiant energy in that room that could be be harnessed to give the results found.  Scale it up to show that it creates more energy then what can be floating around in that room and then I may take another look at it. To me, it's just another type of jule thief.

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I feel that there is too much radiant energy in that room that could be be harnessed to give the results found.  Scale it up to show that it creates more energy then what can be floating around in that room and then I may take another look at it. To me, it's just another type of jule thief.
Fair comment. If there are milliwatts out of nowhere, at least make the effort to scale to a substantial degree, if anything to prove that there is a decent yield per kg of materials, which is probably the best mass production proxy for cost of course excluding rare earth materials.
Even a perfectly scalable tech can be true OU and still utterly useless, if the power density isn't there. Say, it takes a metric ton of coppers wound in very intricate ways from 10 miles of thin gauge wire, to put out 10W continuous. Where to haul that 1 ton to, to get 10W, for what purpose?