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shubhamforme

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #525 on: May 17, 2009, 12:46:46 PM »
hi there how r u?
i am really very -very impressed ith your work...i think genius people like you are one daygoing to change this world after all....
i have been replicating your work and yes i  do gt some very interesting results.........
sir, now i want to build a self charging circuit which can recharge a 12 v 60 amp car battery...i use this battery to power a small inverter which is used to run a 40 watt fluorecent tube and a small table fan in my room....now a days there are more and more powerfaliur in my town as there is water shortage in dams ,, i live in gwalior a samll town in india...
i have been to many many posts in this feed back to source forum but i am not able to find out a proper circuit which can self charge its own source battery..........
sir can you please tell that the circuits provided in the links below will work best for my purpose.....
1]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6519.20

2]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.40

3]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5773.0

shubhamforme

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #526 on: May 17, 2009, 12:47:46 PM »
dams ,, i live in gwalior a samll town in india...
i have been to many many posts in this feed back to source forum but i am not able to find out a proper circuit which can self charge its own source battery..........
sir can you please tell that the circuits provided in the links below will work best for my purpose.....
1]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6519.20

2]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.40

3]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5773.0

shubhamforme

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #527 on: May 17, 2009, 12:49:05 PM »
hi there how r u?
i am really very -very impressed ith your work...i think genius people like you are one daygoing to change this world after all....
i have been replicating your work and yes i  do gt some very interesting results.........

i have been to many many posts in this feed back to source forum but i am not able to find out a proper circuit which can self charge its own source battery..........
sir can you please tell that the circuits provided in the links below will work best for my purpose.....
1]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6519.20

2]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.40

3]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5773.0
please reply waiting eagerly....
thanks
shubham tiwari

nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #528 on: May 17, 2009, 03:54:20 PM »
hi there how r u?
i am really very -very impressed ith your work...i think genius people like you are one daygoing to change this world after all....
i have been replicating your work and yes i  do gt some very interesting results.........

i have been to many many posts in this feed back to source forum but i am not able to find out a proper circuit which can self charge its own source battery..........
sir can you please tell that the circuits provided in the links below will work best for my purpose.....
1]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6519.20

2]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.40

3]  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5773.0
please reply waiting eagerly....
thanks
shubham tiwari

Thank you @shubhamforme !

If what you want to know is which one of @gadgetmall circuits is the good one. It is this one:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.msg148155#msg148155
But if it is a battery switcher. If you have the means to get the parts, is this one:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.msg159185#msg159185

There is a link to the original that you print and paste to a board...

There is another circuit that could be better if what it says is true. It is on this video. The author is @ist. The problem with him is that he will not give all the information, he will give you only hints.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOSSn7UTWOU

Jesus

nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #529 on: May 18, 2009, 05:03:12 PM »
@all

Testing the commutator without connections to the pulse motor.
The commutator does not allow the motor to spin freely.
Its center hole is not centered.
I need to redo the commutator or center its hole somehow in order for the motor to spin freely.

After the commutator is centered, i will follow with the connections.

Jesus

Pirate88179

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #530 on: May 18, 2009, 06:00:18 PM »
@ Jesus:

You could bore out the center hole to a larger size, then fill it with a good fast drying epoxy and then re drill the hole in the center by carefully measuring across the diameter in several locations and drawing a fine line with a ruler across the diameter.  Where the lines all cross is the center.  Mark this with a small nail for a starter point and redrill the size you need in two or three steps, not all at once.  In other words, a small drill to establish the center, then a mid-sized drill to open it up and then the correct size drill for your shaft diameter.  I hope this helps.

Bill

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #531 on: May 18, 2009, 10:29:41 PM »
@ Jesus:

You could bore out the center hole to a larger size, then fill it with a good fast drying epoxy and then re drill the hole in the center by carefully measuring across the diameter in several locations and drawing a fine line with a ruler across the diameter.  Where the lines all cross is the center.  Mark this with a small nail for a starter point and redrill the size you need in two or three steps, not all at once.  In other words, a small drill to establish the center, then a mid-sized drill to open it up and then the correct size drill for your shaft diameter.  I hope this helps.

Bill

Thank you @pirate !

That was exactly what I was trying to do!
I have a small drill press that is used with a hand electric drill, but it does not have something to hold the commutator steady at the center in order to drill it straight through the center.
The problem being that it always get on the other side a little to one side or the other but never on the center.
Then if you get the center with a small drill bit, when you try to get the size needed it gets out of center again.
I know that I will do it eventually.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #532 on: May 18, 2009, 10:36:03 PM »
Jesus:

This is hard to do without the right equipment, trust me I know.  if you can find something that you can chuck your rotor into, like a large drill chuck or an adapter, and spin the piece being drilled, this will make the hole round and centered.  to do this you can place the drill bit in a vice and then hold the spinning commutator above it as straight as you can.  That looks like it might fit into a 3/" drill chuck.  This way, the hole will always be centered.  Warning, if you do this, sneak up on the size because any error in being off-center will just result in a larger hole than you wanted, but still round, and still centered.

Bill

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #533 on: May 18, 2009, 10:42:43 PM »
Jesus:

This is hard to do without the right equipment, trust me I know.  if you can find something that you can chuck your rotor into, like a large drill chuck or an adapter, and spin the piece being drilled, this will make the hole round and centered.  to do this you can place the drill bit in a vice and then hold the spinning commutator above it as straight as you can.  That looks like it might fit into a 3/" drill chuck.  This way, the hole will always be centered.  Warning, if you do this, sneak up on the size because any error in being off-center will just result in a larger hole than you wanted, but still round, and still centered.

Bill

Thank you @pirate !

The difficult part is the 3" drill chuck.

Jesus

FluxAmps

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #534 on: May 21, 2009, 07:08:22 AM »
some more usefull info on overunity

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9654/bearden/addition.html

tom bearden says this about it:

Every Electrical Source of Potential Is Already a Free Energy Source
We thus advance a revolutionary concept: all present power systems already utilize free energy source-antennas. However, the standard two-wire closed circuitry diabolically utilizes one-half the total free energy extracted by the source-antenna from the vacuum, to perform work inside the source-antenna to dissipate its dipolarity and hence to dissipate the source-antenna (i.e. the receiver) itself.
The source already acts as a "dipolar antenna" to continually receive "scalar potential" current d/dl (massless displacement current) from the vacuum. [Ref 9] Previously scientists and engineers have simply ignored this special massless EM energy influx. For load-free (i.e., mass-current-free) conditions, (d/dl) is continually received from the vacuum by any dipole (i.e., by any dipolar source-as-an-antenna), and the flowing energy is continually exchanged back and forth between the vacuum and the dipole.

This free energy exchange with the vacuum is also true of any two points in our circuit that possess an open-circuit voltage or potential difference between them. Two such points act as a dipole. Free energy dipolar antenna sources are everywhere; we just have to learn how to break the symmetry in their energy flux exchange with the vacuum, collect some of the freely flowing influx, and distribute that collected excess energy to an isolated load to separately power it.

In other words, we simply have to implement circuitry that operates analogous to the standard heat pump cycle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigeration_cycle

I'm trying to comprehend all this, anyone any ideas for circuits like that?

http://www.cheniere.org/

bottom of this page:
June 2000:

The source charge problem—“the most difficult problem in classical and quantum electrodynamics”*—solved by Tom Bearden.

then - "click here for explanation"

Seems by this guy that every electrical device is overunity and we stupidly use our energy to kill the mechanism that receives energy from the vacuum.
For as far as I understand he says that you can copy the charge of the power battery endlessly every cycle in the right setup
and u use the copy of the power so to speak to power the device every cycle.
The trick seems to be to keep the power source and the working device separated in the right way, in a way that the power source gives his potential to the working device but not looses any of it's charge.
By using the right setup and materials, so the power source is cut loose after it gave over it's potential energy to the working device but before current really starts to flow.
By copying the power sources potential in the right way the power source won't lose anything of it's charge..
He says it's in principle even possible to make multiple copies of one power source every cycle and power even so many multiple devices with it, as long as we avoid using our power to close the gate to the vacuum...
Amazing stuff....


I recently found a very nice link with lot's of information

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4362954/Megacollection_-_Tom_Bearden_-_Complete_Works

with this link you can download a shitload of books and info on what we try to achieve here,
you need some torrent software for it though, it's word to install one for this(temporarely even)

It also contains a full .pdf version of tom bearden's 894 pages book - Energy from the vacuum - concepts and principles
Which as I understood is considered as the bible on this subject according to some people

plus lots and lots of other interresting stuff( over 200 .pdf files)
Think it's a musthave for your toolbox....

 
« Last Edit: May 21, 2009, 07:55:11 AM by FluxAmps »

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #535 on: May 21, 2009, 02:51:09 PM »
Thank you @fluxamps !

There is a problem with all those circuits and it is that they are just a general idea of a concept that has not been proved completely.
If you try to make the MEG for example, you spend thousand of dollars trying to get it to work and then it ends up ocuppying space and collecting dust in your room.

I have not seen one successful replication of one of those circuits yet.

I recommend you to choose something less profound and already replicated successfully to spend your time and money.

Jesus

FluxAmps

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #536 on: May 21, 2009, 06:14:21 PM »
Thanks @ Jesus

I stumbled on this tom bearden info, saw it was from a few years ago and not updated recently..
It made me very curious, so I wanted to know what you guys over here thought of it.
I didn't know that, what makes it so expensive to build the MEG?
Is it the price of some components?
That would probably be a waist of time and money then indeed.

For myself I'm looking more in the direction of bedini/pulse motor like set ups
That's why I followed this topic already for a few weeks and the fusionback's ofcourse

Well you know way more about it then me, so I want to ask you
Do you think it's possible to use that principle he is talking about
of not closing the gate to the vacuum, in our bedini/pulse motors?
I'm just thinking out loud as a newbie

I'm a complete newby at this, 6 weeks ago I didn't know what a reed switch was or what a transistor did
Now I got my first little pulse motor running on a little selfmade coil(not bifilar yet) and a reed switch and
a transistor and unfortunately a battery ofcourse :)
It's made from an old dvd player I took apart, I glued a transparant coverdisk from a dvd spindle on it and
eight 5mm cubic neodymium magnets.
It spins... at around 850rpm on four 1,5V batteries

Still got to make some good bifilar coil and I got some old harddisks laying around I took apart
So my next model will be build from a harddisk with properly fixed magnets instead of glued
magnets, so I can go to higher rpm's
this one can but I'm afraid the magnets gets loose and fly through the window :)

Lately I got lucky and got in posession of a 4 channel scope
Like I said I don't know shit about electronics and scopes only the basics like U=IxR
and calculating serial and paralel resistance but I'm learning...
I like the trial and error way of learning things so..

So I do a lot of measuring with that scope on my device lately just to learn and see what happens well you know...
I made some other little coils also which a placed around it and which I can adjust they are not powerful but
strong enough to light a led(they are only little collecting coils)
One thing I noticed on the scope is that only in the driving coil(running on 5V approx.) I can see a big spike
about 50V peak to peak.(about 10 times the 5V input)
the collector coils I placed around don't show spikes like that
Just wanted to share that with you, don't know if you can do something with it
Well that's where i'm at right now, looking forward to the months to come when I
get my harddisk model running with better coils and circuits

It takes time to get the right parts and shit and knowledge ofcourse, well you know, you go through the same

So thank you guys for all the usefull info I found here for that, I already learned so much from you people thx


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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #537 on: May 21, 2009, 07:27:12 PM »
@fluxamps

The thousand dollars spent almost always is buying bigger and more powerful components to make it work after failing with cheap parts.

If you want to get good voltage from your pulse motor, use the most powerful magnets you can afford.
Pay attention when you are buying them that when they get stuck to each other it is very difficult to take them apart.

A good magnet makes a good motor even when the coil wire is not that good.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #538 on: May 22, 2009, 03:09:09 PM »
@all

This specific motor does not have the strengh to turn the commutator even when the commutator 's center hole is centered.

I tried different commutators and it cannot turn even a blank pvc commutator using only three of its brushes.

I need a stronger motor to try this commutator test.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #539 on: May 27, 2009, 05:24:29 PM »
@all

I have some ideas working in my head.

Jesus