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Author Topic: Feedback To Source  (Read 354231 times)

Offline nievesoliveras

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Feedback To Source
« on: December 21, 2008, 05:28:28 PM »
@all

My goal here is to run a motor with a 1.5v or 9v battery and charge the battery while running the motor.

The question is:
If I have a circuit, like the camera circuit, that increase the source voltage from 1.5v to 12v, How I can feedback to the source battery without conflict between the two different voltages?

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 06:58:29 PM »
@all

The required circuit to run the motor is already done.
I will post it if there is quorum.

Jesus

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2008, 07:41:28 PM »

That has long been a goal of mine also jesus.

As a matter of fact, while trying to do just that, I discovered an anomalous charging effect on the battery while the motor was not turning within the circuit.

Am I a quorum?

Regards...


Offline ramset

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2008, 08:06:57 PM »
Jesus
I am Quite sure you will have quorum
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Offline innovation_station

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2008, 09:25:05 PM »
That has long been a goal of mine also jesus.

As a matter of fact, while trying to do just that, I discovered an anomalous charging effect on the battery while the motor was not turning within the circuit.

Am I a quorum?

Regards...



hehe  this is how i built my mkc coil .... :D

same deal.....   no movement  ;)

ist

Offline spinner

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2008, 09:46:38 PM »
@all

My goal here is to run a motor with a 1.5v or 9v battery and charge the battery while running the motor.

The question is:
If I have a circuit, like the camera circuit, that increase the source voltage from 1.5v to 12v, How I can feedback to the source battery without conflict between the two different voltages?

Jesus

Check out the standard power/energy and U/I concepts...
Cheers!

Offline nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2008, 10:36:17 PM »
@all

I will not make you suffer. The circuit is very simple. It runs a newman motor. but the 1.5 battery only last 4 minutes.
Lets see all the brilliant minds that are on this forum at work. I will do my best too.

Jesus

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2008, 10:51:59 PM »

Thank you jesus

That was the very first time I ever said those words. :)

I'm 'spiritual'...and a recovering cathoholic.

Seriously though..have you tried attaching your 'jule thief' to the circuit ?

Regards...


Offline nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2008, 10:57:47 PM »
@capzro

I tried but I burnt the transistor in the process. Did not have a good guide schematic to do it. I know a little about electronics, not much.

Jesus

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2008, 11:14:45 PM »

That is interesting in itself jesus...I would have thought that the 'j/t' would just simply not have the power.

I'm not sure what it means..I'm sure someone else will know if there is anything significant to that.

Is there a way to do manually what the transistor does electronically...just to see if the 'j/t' will pull the load ?

Regards...

Offline nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2008, 11:19:53 PM »
@capzro

It must have been a bad connection I made.

The easiest part of all is the booster circuit.
The most difficult part is to make the battery to accept the feedback charge without getting the motor stopped.
Because when I connect the IN4007 to the 1.5v battery, the motor stops inmediately.
Must be a conflict of different voltages I think.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2008, 11:31:06 PM »

We must be overlooking something.

There was a guy on utube about a year or so ago, who had his lawnmower running twice as long as normal, using what he called a batpacitator...he had his battery somehow giving up its entire charge before recharging.

Regards...

Offline AbbaRue

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2008, 11:31:44 PM »
Build two identical units and use the output of #1 to charge the battery of #2.
Then use the output from #2 to charge the battery of #1, problem solved.  ;D

Offline nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2008, 11:48:05 PM »
@abbarue

I tried that with two bedini motors and when the second one was connected the first one stopped each time.
I am studying a circuit schematic that @energymover recommended me. If it is good I will post it.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2008, 12:12:02 AM »
@ Jesus:

Thanks for the invite here.  I too have wanted to do something like this for quite a while.  Somehow, I think the answer might be in combining electrical and mechanical devices in an efficient way as to avoid the loses from conversion.  I believe it can be done, and will be done, hopefully by someone from here.  This is how I got interested in Bedini's work, the earth battery, Captainpecan's experiments, and all the stuff on the Joule Thief topic.  Combining these things together in some way might hold the answer.

I will go back and read all of the previous posts in more detail before jumping in with any of my ideas.  thanks again.

Bill