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Author Topic: Joule Thief  (Read 6344451 times)

Eastov

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13065 on: March 20, 2010, 01:35:50 AM »
Lidmotor did a video showing that the waves are multiple
compounding waves. What fequency are the spikes? 

My neighbor's pace-maker?

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13066 on: March 20, 2010, 09:38:33 AM »
Using 6 turn primary and 250 turn secondary on 3.38" toroid with the two transistor circuit produces increased output power and circuit runs quiet.

7 watt 110 volt bulb video:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E35pxEGd-Fs

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13067 on: March 20, 2010, 01:16:00 PM »
@xee wow thats impressive.  altraz lets see yours!  xee what is the ma pull?

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13068 on: March 20, 2010, 01:18:02 PM »
Hello to everyone.  I am very new to the JT circuit.  I have built one yesterday and lit up 3 LEDs off one AA battery.  wow.  I have only read the first 13 pages of posts in this forum, so I apologise, if my questions here were answered in the 860+ pages I have not read.   I am a Joseph Newman advocate.  I have 9 videos on youtube, just type in my username in the search to see my works.  I have a third larger motor in the works.  check out my thread in the Newman motor section.  I detail the construction of the third motor in the second motor thread.   ???

I am here because of Jarado2600 has been telling me about the JT circuit, and he has posted a suggested schematic to my thread.  I am not much of an electronics engineer (yet), so I am not entirely sure of what values to use in a JT circuit to get what I am looking for, which is:

I want to work with say 12v, stepped up to 1000+v, which will then be the source to my motor coils.

Is this possible?

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13069 on: March 20, 2010, 02:24:53 PM »
Hello to everyone.  I am very new to the JT circuit.  I have built one yesterday and lit up 3 LEDs off one AA battery.  wow.  I have only read the first 13 pages of posts in this forum, so I apologise, if my questions here were answered in the 860+ pages I have not read.   I am a Joseph Newman advocate.  I have 9 videos on youtube, just type in my username in the search to see my works.  I have a third larger motor in the works.  check out my thread in the Newman motor section.  I detail the construction of the third motor in the second motor thread.   ???

I am here because of Jarado2600 has been telling me about the JT circuit, and he has posted a suggested schematic to my thread.  I am not much of an electronics engineer (yet), so I am not entirely sure of what values to use in a JT circuit to get what I am looking for, which is:

I want to work with say 12v, stepped up to 1000+v, which will then be the source to my motor coils.

Is this possible?
Hi detrix,

You'll certainly find a wealth of ideas for various projects within this thread. The JT circuit will produce very high voltages from a very low input source voltage, and many of thedesigns reflect the need to keep the source voltage low at around 1.5v. The JT concept will work at higher voltages of course by experimenting with component values. Also consider the use of boost converters which could be more efficient for your purposes. You can use MOSFET devices more effectively or even IGBT semiconductors for your purposes. Either way the circuits can still be kept simple. 1000volts is rather a high value  so i presume the coil impedance's are going to be quite high! otherwise I shudder to think of what DC currents are otherwise likely to be considered in your designs!!! If your 1000volts needs to be accurate and stable then a PWM driven circuit will be a must. Don't be frightened by the technical terms.... if you don't understand just ask, there's enough Guys and Girls here only to willing to offer their help.

innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13070 on: March 20, 2010, 03:27:53 PM »
Hello to everyone.  I am very new to the JT circuit.  I have built one yesterday and lit up 3 LEDs off one AA battery.  wow.  I have only read the first 13 pages of posts in this forum, so I apologise, if my questions here were answered in the 860+ pages I have not read.   I am a Joseph Newman advocate.  I have 9 videos on youtube, just type in my username in the search to see my works.  I have a third larger motor in the works.  check out my thread in the Newman motor section.  I detail the construction of the third motor in the second motor thread.   ???

I am here because of Jarado2600 has been telling me about the JT circuit, and he has posted a suggested schematic to my thread.  I am not much of an electronics engineer (yet), so I am not entirely sure of what values to use in a JT circuit to get what I am looking for, which is:

I want to work with say 12v, stepped up to 1000+v, which will then be the source to my motor coils.

Is this possible?

WELCOME!

you picked a great day to join us ..  as i just saw my children like 3 days! 

: )

i probally wont freq out for a while agin ..

and you sound verry keen!  there for i will work right beside you !

a newman is the same thing .. so you got your foot far more than in the door ! 

lets get your motor running!  head out on the highway!  looking for adventure ..

and what ever comes our way!

: )

W

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdiWEmTpwCY

explode into space ! : )

innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13071 on: March 20, 2010, 05:35:57 PM »
just cuz im totally nutz and my brain never shuts down!

check out this one ... 

a while ago i was doing pulse motor tests .. and i had kool effects ..  where i plugged on a 12vdc battery with croded termanials and i was able to charge it at higher freq and high voltage ..  i used a cam board to back load the big cap .. 

ok  thing ran hours back loaded  some where round 270 vdc i cant remember now the voltage .. it is not important ..

this is what is ...    the effect was dirrectly caused from the corosion .. on the termanials ..

this will be a legnetly post ..  few years ago i was boating camping trip down the river with a bunch of friends .. i had 3 12dv batteries in the old boat .. it was in bad shape .. i had a 12vdc motor  to power the boat .. so after the long float and baileing the water .. we make it to 300 feet from the camp site ..

WE SINK THE BOAT .. it was a dark by this time .. we set out bout 4pm .. so all gear was lost the batteries sunk to the bottom of the river .. we said heck with it ... walked the rest of the way ..  got to the site told what had happened .. 

next morning we went back for what ever we could recover ..  i managed to get the batteries motor and a few other things that were heavy as they sunk right to the bottom ...  it was a rappid we traveled through

so all lite weight things floated down the river and were lost !  never to be refound !

anyhow  i get the batteries back to the site .. to my surprize  they are still full .. after over 12 hours under water .. now 2 of thease were brand new fully charged batteries and not small ones at that ..

altho there was a coating on the termanials ...

: )

it was a ruff weekend .. all in all : (   but when i look back .. with eyes open wide ..  : ) 

things become clearer

so


basically i think i have come up with a device  wich coats the termanals of the 12vdc batteries ..

i will at some point try this ..  i will take 4 top post lead termanals and i will make a split hho cell  pos pos and neg neg .. 

i will coat the termanals .. and make pos termanals and neg ones .. 

perhaps they can bolt right on any 12vdc battery and allow high volt high freq chargeing of the translator ..

ist!

: )

now watch this video ...  lmfao 

some one need a dish ?   lol

; )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1EVmmzOMD4&NR=1
« Last Edit: March 20, 2010, 06:11:41 PM by innovation_station »

innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13072 on: March 20, 2010, 06:59:50 PM »
since im right charged up ... 

lets even go like this ... 

: )

mirror dish ... nano coated  transponder...  led  lol   we could build it a few ways ...

may even be able to throw a freon solar sun chaser swivel on the FREE ENGERY RECIEVER ..  ..


hummmmm

ist!

if we did it right we can get sat signals tv signals radio ...  sunlight dirrected engery high teck lite to electric dirrect conversion .. from the coated leds.. cluster ..  : ) and if your parabolic was alum and your ground plate was zink ... ot other dissimilar materials .. you can get cosmic rays yet too ..  the freon reacts in the sun light it is in a sealed containment system to follow sunlight ...  if there is a safe clean replace ment for freon than that could be used

in thinking about this ...  i discover sunlight heating of freon  and the dirrect heat to electric conversion  gadget was working on ...

aswell!  grampa owned a large fruit farm operation i can remember as a child the HEAT PROUDCED OFF THE 3 HUGE SCHOOL GYM SIZED CA ROOMS ....  controlled atsmophere   the compresser room heated the entire  packing room!   wich was VERRY LARGE

in the rememberance of this ... i chat with the old boy! lol 

he's LIKE  run it backward ....   take an airconditioner and reverse the operation to HEAT YOUR HOUSE ....

hummmm  agin ... 

now HOW BOUT THOSE       FREON SUN POWER STICKS   ; )    HEAT TO ELECTRIC CONVERSION STICKS ...

: )


THEASE ARE ALL TRUE POSSIBLE METHODS AND SOURCES TO RUN YOUR BEDINI STYLE JT TPU UNIT ..

AND WITH THE AID OF GADGET BILL J MK1 XEE KOOLER ST  AND ALL OTHERS ...  WELL

THIS IS YOUR HUMAN EXPERIENCE ..

AS WELL AS ALL OTHERS I NEVER MENTIONED .. : (   I COULD GO ON FOREVER ON THAT BUT ...   YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE .. : )

: )

THE THANKS AND MY HARD WORK AND EFFORDS ARE SHARED  !

LIKE I SAID IT HAS ONLY JUST BEGUN ...  I GOT 12 SPARE DECKS OF CARDS .. YET ...

: )

« Last Edit: March 20, 2010, 07:26:24 PM by innovation_station »

resonanceman

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13073 on: March 20, 2010, 08:08:39 PM »
Hello to everyone.  I am very new to the JT circuit.  I have built one yesterday and lit up 3 LEDs off one AA battery.  wow.  I have only read the first 13 pages of posts in this forum, so I apologise, if my questions here were answered in the 860+ pages I have not read.   I am a Joseph Newman advocate.  I have 9 videos on youtube, just type in my username in the search to see my works.  I have a third larger motor in the works.  check out my thread in the Newman motor section.  I detail the construction of the third motor in the second motor thread.   ???

I am here because of Jarado2600 has been telling me about the JT circuit, and he has posted a suggested schematic to my thread.  I am not much of an electronics engineer (yet), so I am not entirely sure of what values to use in a JT circuit to get what I am looking for, which is:

I want to work with say 12v, stepped up to 1000+v, which will then be the source to my motor coils.

Is this possible?

detrix42

Welcome to the JT thread

As I see it the  problem  you might have is  getting enough current to run  your Newman machine
How much current to you need?

Starting with  12 V getting 1000 V with a JT is easy........
I use TIP2055s most of the time
I  use a 750k resistor  and a 2K pot  on the base.
Ocasionaly I  reduce the  7.5K resistor to around half of that .........but in general I like my transistors to run cool.........so I keep  the base resistance high

Keep  reading  the thread at least until you have a good grasp of how to make a  secondary ........ the secondary is  where it is at with JTs.

For the most part....  the  JT primarys are used  just to create the pulses..........the  usable energy is taken  from the secondary.


What are you planning on using as a core for  your JTs
For higher  power  I suggest  a larger  toroid 2 in  or better.........or
a flyback transformer out of a old TV or monitor
My candy cane coils would  work too.........they are made  with smaller toroids a pair  of  wires is wound  same direction and usually same number of winds on a number of  toroids ( in series )
A primary  can be  added by  either  adding another  winding   with just  a couple wraps  around each toroid.........or  a bifilar pair  can  be ran  through the centers of all the toroids .....I usually  use  4 wraps likle this.

gary

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« Reply #13074 on: March 20, 2010, 08:21:56 PM »
FOR SLAYER007 AND GARY ...

: )

check out the celefone chargers i have about 8 of em ...  bought them way back ... 

how bout you throw a few in a box ...  the ma out is a bit as i recall ..

plus ... i bet i can add feed back to source off the led ..... 

hummmmm

maybe ill tackle that one after the list i just brain farted out !


lol

W

here is something else some one could try ..   microwave magnet.  pancake. rs spool. (pickup) pancake magnet ..

stacked .. jt it ..

both pancakes bifillar speeker wire ..  wired top to bottom ...   get it ...

push both 1 way then the other ... 


ill just whip one up for visual purpouses ..  fire it from the cellfone boards .. in a box...  : )

here some pictures of the little bucker ..

XEE#2  you need a bass drum to bang the high hats with : )

i only threw 1 pancake in it as i was lazy .. : P
« Last Edit: March 20, 2010, 09:46:39 PM by innovation_station »

MrMag

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13075 on: March 20, 2010, 10:07:24 PM »


LIKE I SAID IT HAS ONLY JUST BEGUN ...  I GOT 12 SPARE DECKS OF CARDS .. YET ...


Yes, but are they full decks?? :) :)

innovation_station

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« Reply #13076 on: March 20, 2010, 10:18:33 PM »
sure all new and un opened ...

lol

see i got thease till spools... lol   lol

hole bunch ... 

: )

want to see a unit ?  lol   it runs very very vhf...  lol cost me bout 60 cents to make 1 ...  lol

im gonna put a bunch in a ring around some alum

lmfao!

W

heck they even got 12 holes lol  evenly spaced ... 

: )

here are some more pics till spool air core jt  to be  stuck between 2 alum plates ..  ; )  on the back of a solar pannel and then to the boost cap bank ...

a unit bout 6" thick mount it anywhere ...  plug the dish into it for nitetime charge ...

NO BATTERY BANK NEED ALL IS KEPT AT THE PANNELS .. 

connect direct to house feed / grid tie backfeed!   

there is not much i could not build ..

: )

it could be considered a solar powered multi spinner flux cap ...  surface charge effect ...  vhf ..
 
« Last Edit: March 21, 2010, 12:00:07 AM by innovation_station »

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13077 on: March 20, 2010, 11:45:08 PM »
@xee wow thats impressive.  altraz lets see yours!  xee what is the ma pull?

Working on it. I have been working 12 hour shifts  :'(

-Altrez

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13078 on: March 21, 2010, 02:57:16 AM »
Hello to everyone.  I am very new to the JT circuit.  I have built one yesterday and lit up 3 LEDs off one AA battery.  wow. 

GOOD JOB
Is this not a wonderful circuit?


Quote
I want to work with say 12v, stepped up to 1000+v, which will then be the source to my motor coils.

Is this possible?
It is possible to get 1000 volts from a 1.2v battery so, maybe.
The volts are spikes, however.
They work well with fluorescent bulbs and leds.
I will watch your youtube videos to see if I think your neuman motor can use spikes.
That would be very cool if so, because you could use a AA or 2 of them instead of a 12v. But I might be greedy. ;D

So, welcome to this illustrious thread of experimenters. I am glad to see a motor maker here!

jeanna

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13079 on: March 21, 2010, 04:15:53 AM »
detrix,

  There are videos online with the JT running small motors and filament bulbs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiLcbTBewhw

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