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Offline detrix42

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13095 on: March 22, 2010, 03:25:50 PM »
Dextrix,

   Here's another filament bulb JT circuit that I've been toying with, but mine a non-wireless version.  He's got a link in the description which shows schematics and details. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ODW-ntPHSU

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  That was pretty cool.  Great job.

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« Reply #13096 on: March 22, 2010, 03:40:43 PM »

You'll have to measure the ohmic resistance between the leads
, there should be 6 leads, or Five leads and one ground. If there are four leads, then it shouldn't be a problem, you should also ask yourself why the power supply burned out?

Any two leads with an ohmic resistance are a coil, ..6 lead transformers are usually center tapped - this lead can be ignored if you want.  Using the two leads with the least ohmic resistance and the two leads with the most ohmic resistance will give you a voltage boost.

for instance, if there are 6 leads where there is ohmic resistance between 1 2 and 3, and the ohmic resistance of 1-2 is 20ohm, and 2-3 is 20 ohms, and 1-3 is 40 ohms, then pin 2 is the center tap.  Just as well of the other pins, if there is 40 ohms between 4-5 as well as 5-6, the pin 5 is center tap.

using pins 1 and 2 as the coil to base, and pins 4 and 6 as coil to collector will give you voltage boost because there are more windings on coil 4-5-6 than 1-2-3.  This will give you roughly voltage boost V ..while using pins 1 and 3 will give you voltage boost V/2.

IF you follow the diagram that I made for you on your thread, then you won't need a secondary, just a toroid and some mag wire, two capacitors and a resistor and a transistor.  You should not use the secondary, it's a waste of time for your particular circuit because it simply will not provide enough current between commutation switches.

In my schematic, the bulk of current will flow through the motor and not the transistor.  When skipping commutators, the transistor circuit will activate and produce a higher voltage, until it hits another commutator and discharges across the coil along with the current from the battery.

I tried measuring the pins, but this transformer is a bit weird.  Pictures below:
but I am only getting like .1 to .2 ohms between the pins even between the first and last pin on the 6 pin side.
I am not sure what the big white coated wire is exactly.

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« Reply #13097 on: March 22, 2010, 06:34:33 PM »
ok i have been unable to recharge my aa's properly as i cant find the wall charger .. 

so that inspired me to do this one ..  im almost done it .. 

im working on a aa charger ..  so far  really good ..  this is useing the coil showen in my last post .. 

it works well btw ... : )

1 2n222a 2 db107's 1 1k pot a lower power aa driveing it .. 

i can hear it when it is properly built and tuned out put is low .. i dont tap back side  at all on this unit ..

insted i force it out the 2 secondaries .. then to the db107's then into 3 aaa NI-MA 300MAH1.2V rechargable batteryies hooked up to supply 3.6 vdc per bridge

so there 6 aaa rechargables in this unit ..  they charge fast ..  really fast!   i then load the 3.6vdc down to a duracell aa rechargeable 1.2vdc 2650 mah for bout 1 min  then i breack the connection i watch my aaa climb back to 3.6vdc ... and i do it agin ... 

i need to automate the process ... it will stop and blink at .5 vdc in supply battery ..

as it is configured i would expect ma draw to be low ...

: )

ist!

to automate this im wondering .. if i could find a 5 volt relay and just add another battery  so when the bank has enough juice to fire the relay it dumps to the aa and when the bank gets too week to power the relay it breakes the connection ..  then repeates .. 

someone wanna help on that .. ? 


maybe ill just gang the outputs togather as 1  and recharge 12vdc ...aaa bank 2 feeds .. and then i can use the 2 wire electronic pulser to drain the 12vdc bank to the aa

: )

ill have to try it ..

« Last Edit: March 22, 2010, 06:55:01 PM by innovation_station »

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« Reply #13097 on: March 22, 2010, 06:34:33 PM »
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« Reply #13098 on: March 22, 2010, 08:28:23 PM »
thanks for that video link. Now to watch it a few hundred time to understand everything he is doing.

You may do that , but i can help ...
I also started a tread for it , feel free to ask questions.

 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8878.0

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Hi everyone !

 :)

Mark

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13099 on: March 22, 2010, 09:56:42 PM »
I am trying to look up a transformer that I pulled out of that power supply. I did a google search and found nothing.  the numbers on it are   --  6C03313120 MORETEC 99235C.  How do I get a pin diagram for it???

Hi detrix,
 Doubtfull if you will get a schematic for your TX. Try this site:http://www.smps.us/computer-power-supply.html .... may help. If you have a multimeter it will help identify the windings, the resistances will be quite low.

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« Reply #13099 on: March 22, 2010, 09:56:42 PM »
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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13100 on: March 22, 2010, 09:56:56 PM »
ok i have been unable to recharge my aa's properly as i cant find the wall charger .. 


IST, Thanks. That's the best line I've heard for a long time.
All the devices you have built and can't find the wall charger to charge your batteries.
Think about it, It's hilarious.

Thanx for the laugh, I really needed that. :)

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13101 on: March 22, 2010, 10:23:16 PM »
IST, Thanks. That's the best line I've heard for a long time.
All the devices you have built and can't find the wall charger to charge your batteries.
Think about it, It's hilarious.

Thanx for the laugh, I really needed that. :)
indeed :)

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« Reply #13101 on: March 22, 2010, 10:23:16 PM »
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Offline detrix42

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13102 on: March 22, 2010, 10:25:46 PM »
You may do that , but i can help ...
I also started a tread for it , feel free to ask questions.

 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8878.0

@all

Hi everyone !

 :)

Mark

Hi Mark.  I will probably have lots of questions. But I am also reading your thread and that is also answering questions. I want to apply JT circuit or something like your winding idea to my Newman motor I am building.  Not sure how yet, but I need to focus on build my third one, so the question will come later.  Thanks for sharing your idea(s).

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13103 on: March 22, 2010, 11:19:13 PM »
I tried measuring the pins, but this transformer is a bit weird.  Pictures below:
but I am only getting like .1 to .2 ohms between the pins even between the first and last pin on the 6 pin side.
I am not sure what the big white coated wire is exactly.

detrix

That looks like an interesting  coil
I am guessing that the white wire is high voltage.........

a fraction  of an ohm  would be about right  for the low voltage side......... some of he  coils I  have wired as JTs had at least one winding  with only 8 turns.

CHeck  for continuity between the different  connection points.
If you  can  find  3 pins  that  all  have continuity  you probably have  a winding with a center tap ...... This can be used  as your JT  primarys.

I  am guessing that the side  with  3 pins is the high  voltage side........check  these for continuity  with the white wire.
If  you have  continuity with one or more of them ........and  the resistance is  quite a bit higher than the other  side........you have a secondary .

If that is  high  voltage insulation on the white wire ...... and you start  with 12 V  I am betting you will get over 1000V out.......

Using  12 V I have got  250 V out of a small transformer with no  secondary


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« Reply #13103 on: March 22, 2010, 11:19:13 PM »
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« Reply #13104 on: March 23, 2010, 12:57:16 AM »
IST, Thanks. That's the best line I've heard for a long time.
All the devices you have built and can't find the wall charger to charge your batteries.
Think about it, It's hilarious.

Thanx for the laugh, I really needed that. :)

: )

lol

this little cridder works KICK ASS!

: )

and the charge remains in my rechargeables ..  i have recharged bout 5 of em now ...  still useing the dead battery to run it ..

i found to just leave it with out pulseing it works well too!

W

i wonder if non rechargeables will work for translators? if they do may be able to get around the super caps to catch the good stuff!

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« Reply #13105 on: March 23, 2010, 02:54:25 AM »


i wonder if non rechargeables will work for translators? if they do may be able to get around the super caps to catch the good stuff!

IST

the  file   in the  first  post on this thread might  be related

he calls it a REAC ........ dead batterys  being used  to condition impulses

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1868.0


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« Reply #13105 on: March 23, 2010, 02:54:25 AM »
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« Reply #13106 on: March 23, 2010, 03:32:04 AM »
detrix

That looks like an interesting  coil
I am guessing that the white wire is high voltage.........

a fraction  of an ohm  would be about right  for the low voltage side......... some of he  coils I  have wired as JTs had at least one winding  with only 8 turns.

CHeck  for continuity between the different  connection points.
If you  can  find  3 pins  that  all  have continuity  you probably have  a winding with a center tap ...... This can be used  as your JT  primarys.

All pins on the 6 pin side all have continuity, nothing over 1 ohm.  Same for the 2 pins on other side (2 pins, one cut off).

I  am guessing that the side  with  3 pins is the high  voltage side........check  these for continuity  with the white wire.
If  you have  continuity with one or more of them ........and  the resistance is  quite a bit higher than the other  side........you have a secondary .

If that is  high  voltage insulation on the white wire ...... and you start  with 12 V  I am betting you will get over 1000V out.......

Using  12 V I have got  250 V out of a small transformer with no  secondary
gary

The White wire is connected to the 6 pin side.  Still nothing over 1 ohm. I mean the white wire has continuity with all 6 pins, all read .3 ohms, but gradually dropped to .1 ohms. I will just have to have some fun with it. I will start by using the 2 pin side as input, and see what I get out of the 6 pin side.

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13107 on: March 23, 2010, 04:00:03 AM »
I have a similar coil, and the thick top wire on mine is actually a ground wire, that is wrapped around all of the inner coils, an outer emf shield of sorts.  Well that's what mine is doing.
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« Reply #13108 on: March 23, 2010, 05:04:21 AM »
a while ago i have been able to recharge dead batteries from the TESLA KICK METHOD!

SIMPLY AN INTRUPTION IN THE FLOW ..

you can then tune it better ..  but its still caused from stoping the flow

well the thing is still running on the same battery i recharged 6 rechargeables from it ..

all were .8 - .9vdc in the rechargeables ..  all now are 1.3 - 1.1  vdc after a few hours of sitting round ..

i took a few pictures im going to mount it now ..

then i will build another  useing DEAD 9VDC BATTERIES  AS TRANSLATORS ..

this unit works well tho

ist!
« Last Edit: March 23, 2010, 05:26:42 AM by innovation_station »

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« Reply #13109 on: March 23, 2010, 10:36:59 PM »
I was inspired by Dr Stiffler's last video.
I wanted to see if I could get my circuit to self run also.

I'm using a old PNP transistor a R 591-7419.
I have the polarity for the circuit reversed and I also have the emitter and collector connected backwards.
Running it backwards it will draw as low as 30 uA while it's running.
This way the fields very weak but it still has enought power to run and charge it's self.
When I first started the circuit it only had 116.4 mV in the capacitor but it's slowly charging it's self.

At the end of the video I switch the transistor back around and the led will dimly lit off 136 mV.


Here is the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usjQ89KmVaA

 

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