Author Topic: Joule Thief (Read 6333961 times)

xee2 · « **Reply #13050 on:** March 18, 2010, 04:25:03 PM »

The circuit I posted on previous page can also be used to blink 7 watt 110 volt filament bulb.

video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSf4iOtUAd0&feature=channel

EDIT: Yeh, it really makes that noise (toroid turns vibrating).

innovation_station · « **Reply #13051 on:** March 18, 2010, 04:59:32 PM »

the entire plasma screen runs 100vac 1 amp ..

so that is what 100 watts ..

as per manifacture design ...

pop out the transformers ..

now your down to almost nothing to run it ...

W

being this is only a 1 wire primary .. you can run it from a jt ... be it secondary fired or .. simple ce tap point ..

you could run it 2 time ... meaning jt runs really fast vhf ... fills a cap ... you use cap as power supply for transistor that fires plasma tranny ... or use a fet and freq genny to lock the desired output freq!

as per device design ..

ie if you want to melt metal set it to the freq ... if you want to lite cfl .. set it to the freq ... if you .. want to fracture water ... set it to the freq ...

bla bla bla ...

giantkiller · « **Reply #13052 on:** March 18, 2010, 05:09:15 PM »

Iron core single side Multipactor. Monopactor?

innovation_station · « **Reply #13053 on:** March 18, 2010, 05:56:33 PM »

Quote from: giantkiller on March 18, 2010, 05:09:15 PM

Iron core single side Multipactor. Monopactor?

lol

i think i can swing that lol

man good thing for good souls...

!

could this design not be improved GK?

: )

W

i know it can .. but it needs a choke and a good source of bounce current .. ma draw goes way down and it self runs ..

CALL IT MY SELF RUNNING PLASMA FERROITE TRANSFORMER POWER SUPPLY ..

infact ... I WILL GIVE IT TO STEVE! HE CAN NAME IT...

i just hooked up a gadget solar pannel im impressed!

2 bucks each ..to a db107 then to 2 duracell rechargeables 2650 mah instantly they start chargeing i took it out side in dirrect light hooked up a meter .. they charge well from 1 pannel ..

innovation_station · « **Reply #13054 on:** March 18, 2010, 07:54:44 PM »

now if i go super cap ... you have a simple batteryless inputless portable power system that spits kv ..

what freq do you desire?

did i mention it fits in your hand and is the size of an i pod ...

a is for APPLE ...

: )

W

solar is back up top up kick starter .. lol

woopy · « **Reply #13055 on:** March 19, 2010, 12:03:11 AM »

Hi Sirmikey and Xee2

thanks for your answers

Yes the Avramenko works fine and now i am prisonner of a huge capacitor woww!

But more seriously i still do not understand the phisics of all of this phenomena. What is "exiting" the room air to get a real electrical contact between the dipoles of any kind to make them work ?

For example in the Avramenko there is one antenna and than a rectified (with diode ) closed circuit and i see NO dipole or no potential diference that is to say one entry and no exit that is no real circuit and it works Sorry but why and how?

Sorry to be insistant but the student is puzzled.

lot of fun to go on this thread

regards

Laurent

altrez · « **Reply #13056 on:** March 19, 2010, 12:34:16 AM »

Quote from: woopy on March 19, 2010, 12:03:11 AM

Hi Sirmikey and Xee2

thanks for your answers

Yes the Avramenko works fine and now i am prisonner of a huge capacitor woww!

But more seriously i still do not understand the phisics of all of this phenomena. What is "exiting" the room air to get a real electrical contact between the dipoles of any kind to make them work ?

For example in the Avramenko there is one antenna and than a rectified (with diode ) closed circuit and i see NO dipole or no potential diference that is to say one entry and no exit that is no real circuit and it works Sorry but why and how?

Sorry to be insistant but the student is puzzled.

lot of fun to go on this thread

regards

Laurent

Its RF.

-Altrez

slayer007 · « **Reply #13057 on:** March 19, 2010, 01:06:11 AM »

Quote from: woopy on March 19, 2010, 12:03:11 AM

Hi Sirmikey and Xee2

thanks for your answers

Yes the Avramenko works fine and now i am prisonner of a huge capacitor woww!

But more seriously i still do not understand the phisics of all of this phenomena. What is "exiting" the room air to get a real electrical contact between the dipoles of any kind to make them work ?

For example in the Avramenko there is one antenna and than a rectified (with diode ) closed circuit and i see NO dipole or no potential diference that is to say one entry and no exit that is no real circuit and it works Sorry but why and how?

Sorry to be insistant but the student is puzzled.

lot of fun to go on this thread

regards

Laurent

It looks like your getting very nice results now Woopy.
You should have even better results using a pancake coil for L2.(Use plastic coated wire)

Dr Stiffler has some very good Documents explaining his Coherence theory.
And some experiments to try with it.Like maybe a second wireless tower.

http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/6820479?from_badge_documents_button=1

innovation_station · « **Reply #13058 on:** March 19, 2010, 03:04:12 AM »

are you exciteing the gas in the tube ?

?

check out this kick in toy ..

2 cams 2 caps bat ... a 555 pwm a relay 2 out put caps and a 60w light bulb ...

i plan on LITEING THE 60WATT BULB .. AND POWERING THE PWM AND REALY FROM 2 AA BATTERIES .. !

IST!

sirmikey1 · « **Reply #13059 on:** March 19, 2010, 05:51:33 AM »

One of Dr. Stiffler's videos, he calls it "stray capacitance".
Some folks here have called it RF, radio transmitter.
It's likely unsafe.
sm

WilbyInebriated · « **Reply #13060 on:** March 19, 2010, 08:01:24 AM »

Quote from: sirmikey1 on March 19, 2010, 05:51:33 AM

It's likely unsafe.

likely? how is this? do you have any measured data to back this up? how did you come to this conclusion?

woopy · « **Reply #13061 on:** March 19, 2010, 09:35:50 AM »

Thanks to all

i will try the pancake coil and read the Dr Stiffler doc

I have to go away for some days i will resume the experiments next week

lot of fun to all

Laurent

sirmikey1 · « **Reply #13062 on:** March 19, 2010, 01:35:14 PM »

From Stiffler's page:

USERS OF SEC EXCITERS ASSUME ALL RESPONSIBILITY
AND RISK FOR THE USE OF THESE DEVICES

innovation_station · « **Reply #13063 on:** March 19, 2010, 02:38:03 PM »

Quote from: sirmikey1 on March 19, 2010, 01:35:14 PM

From Stiffler's page:

USERS OF SEC EXCITERS ASSUME ALL RESPONSIBILITY
AND RISK FOR THE USE OF THESE DEVICES

i beleave them to be dangrous .. !

it all depends upon there freq of operation ...

if your antena was tuned to your brainwaves ... perhaps there risks.. nevermind all the weird crap that can happen from playing air core

but agin all has its place ...

i still perfer a self running thing that you just bring with ya...

and contained in a core ..

i have done things with air core coils i did not like .. and we wont go to details ..

yes they can cause odd effects ...

and if there children in the house ...

IT IS BEST NOT TO PLAY THAT CARD ..

here is a simple event that may happen .. you will hate yourself for life ... so be wize ..

say i was playing with a high power air coil .. just playing round with a coil un aware of the effects of such a thing .. and my kids come into the room and say daddy lets play they grab the door handel you are in the middle of an expairment ... you had no idea the door knob had 50 000 volts sitting on the surface .. your child just found out ... THE WRONG WAY ...

NOW HOW DO YOU FEEL ?

IST

BE WIZE!

crowclaw · « **Reply #13064 on:** March 19, 2010, 08:02:41 PM »

Quote from: innovation_station on March 19, 2010, 02:38:03 PM

i beleave them to be dangrous .. !

it all depends upon there freq of operation ...

if your antena was tuned to your brainwaves ... perhaps there risks.. nevermind all the weird crap that can happen from playing air core

but agin all has its place ...

i still perfer a self running thing that you just bring with ya...

and contained in a core ..

i have done things with air core coils i did not like .. and we wont go to details ..

yes they can cause odd effects ...

and if there children in the house ...

IT IS BEST NOT TO PLAY THAT CARD ..

here is a simple event that may happen .. you will hate yourself for life ... so be wize ..

say i was playing with a high power air coil .. just playing round with a coil un aware of the effects of such a thing .. and my kids come into the room and say daddy lets play they grab the door handel you are in the middle of an expairment ... you had no idea the door knob had 50 000 volts sitting on the surface .. your child just found out ... THE WRONG WAY ...

NOW HOW DO YOU FEEL ?

IST

BE WIZE!

Spot on IST,

All these experiments using open ended antenna's can not only be a possible or probable health hazard at close proximity but as IST mentioned the build up of potential static charges within the vicinity could be fatal!!! One other point worth mentioning here to be critically aware of! These are RF transmission devices in various forms which have the capability of distant radio signal transmission across the radio frequency networks!! Operating such devices can create untold havoc with sensitive equipment over a considerable distance.

I whole heatedly agree with ist in experimenting with closed loop inductive type systems. Not for me to discourage experiments... only to re iterate this GOOD ADVICE

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