Author Topic: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV (Read 71790 times)

2goodbucs · « **Reply #75 on:** June 02, 2008, 11:07:10 PM »

Quote from: 22350 on June 02, 2008, 08:03:08 PM

Can someone explain the differences between making hho gas and making the two gases separately?

I assume if your separating the gases then you are probably trying to create pure Hydrogen. I have no experience in pure Hydrogen but I know it costs more to create.

The mixture of Oxygen with Hydrogen is kind of like a catalyst of baking soda and distilled water for electrolyte. It just amplifies the gas to make it stronger.

2goodbucs · « **Reply #76 on:** June 02, 2008, 11:09:21 PM »

Quote from: glassman on June 02, 2008, 07:09:17 PM

Dallas,

any thoughts when your store might be back up?

glassman

Dallas,

Yeah, whatever happened to your Ebay auctions? I don't see you offering your product on there. I bet you were getting a tremendous amount of orders and that's the reason your not on it?

22350 · « **Reply #77 on:** June 02, 2008, 11:34:38 PM »

Quote from: 2goodbucs on June 02, 2008, 11:07:10 PM

I assume if your separating the gases then you are probably trying to create pure Hydrogen. I have no experience in pure Hydrogen but I know it costs more to create.

The mixture of Oxygen with Hydrogen is kind of like a catalyst of baking soda and distilled water for electrolyte. It just amplifies the gas to make it stronger.

the reason i ask is because it appears that Dingel's cell was spitting the two gasses. Look at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVlllvdmW2U

He specifically says that he is getting the gas separately.

What I don't understand is why everyone else is perusing the combined method?

DallasGoldBug · « **Reply #78 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:03:41 PM »

Please post photos of your setup and Ill see if I can help.

LOL , No biggee , I just get confused easy,.. Just hit the dollar store and wallmart, they both had the little condement (sp) cups @ 4 for a dollar. 2.5 oz, Hope Dallas isn't running 40 A's,anyone know if thats that what Dallas is using ? I went and got some SS cups that were about 8 oz and am constructing a WFC right now, will post up how it produces..

Im running 19 cups in a water filter housing on my Dodge 2500Ram. Im putting 60 amps into it with no problems other than the electrolyte boiling after 10 minutes. Therefor Im installing a cooling coil in line today to cycle the liquid.

Start with Distilled H2o and put 1 spoon full of baking soda in this should get you about 10-15amps
if you use sodium hydroxide anything more than a half a spoon full will run your amps up to unmanageable and dangerous levels.

For a test run last week I hooked the cell up to a 200amp battery charger and used sodium hydrox, was working fine until i got a loose connection on one of the bolts. Started to sizzle and could see arching in the water. Just hit the off switch in time before it melted.

Fun while it lasted, but now im getting serious with an all stainless cell.

Store will be back up beginning of next week

Is the new twister using a PWM ?
No. I did however test with a golf cart variable motor control for a while. I wanted to have more control over the setup while we tested it on the Dodge 2500 Turbo Diesel
But for any other reason than what I mentioned, it really hasn't benefited at all using a pwm. These are just my findings, please let me know if anyone finds something to the contrary.

Can you show measurements in the new vid or post them here ?
Absolutely have a video I can post tomorrow.

DallasGoldBug · « **Reply #79 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:13:15 PM »

Also, wanted to give a solid "Well Done!" to gchagui.

He has performed extensive testing on the electrode.

gchagui, Please let me know if I can post the URL. Thanks

DallasGoldBug

vdubdipr · « **Reply #80 on:** June 04, 2008, 09:09:54 PM »

im pretty sure daniel dingle seperated his h and o because hes running 100% browns gas and
injects them seperately to controll the burn rate/rpm ... instead of all the tricky valving

vdubdipr · « **Reply #81 on:** June 04, 2008, 09:11:02 PM »

im pretty sure daniel dingle seperated his h and o because hes running 100% browns gas and
injects them seperately to controll the burn rate/rpm ... instead of all the tricky valving

NerzhDishual · « **Reply #82 on:** June 04, 2008, 11:01:56 PM »

Hi Guys,

I have updated my main page: http://freenrg.info/Exp_With_DallasGB_Elect/
with 4 more pages and a lot of pictures.

I have not yet 'glued' my Dallas_Gold_Bug cell container.
However I'm now able to measure some gas production with my
"'poor man' gas measurement set" and other 'poor' devices .

More to come ASAP.

Best

Haliburton · « **Reply #83 on:** June 04, 2008, 11:15:41 PM »

yea whats up with the video

powercat · « **Reply #84 on:** June 05, 2008, 12:54:42 AM »

Hi NerzhDishual

Good to see your work

Hope all gos well on the PWM

have you tested with 24V ?

all the best

pc

glassman · « **Reply #85 on:** June 05, 2008, 03:20:47 AM »

Quote from: DallasGoldBug on June 04, 2008, 01:03:41 PM

Is the new twister using a PWM ?
No. I did however test with a golf cart variable motor control for a while. I wanted to have more control over the setup while we tested it on the Dodge 2500 Turbo Diesel
But for any other reason than what I mentioned, it really hasn't benefited at all using a pwm. These are just my findings, please let me know if anyone finds something to the contrary.

I may be mistaken but the PWM is to minimize the amps and boiling right? I'd be interested to know if you still get the output with a PWM as it seems like your system is pulling a lot of amps and getting really hot. Or am I missing something?

glassman

gchagui · « **Reply #86 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:00:05 AM »

Quote from: DallasGoldBug on June 04, 2008, 01:13:15 PM

Also, wanted to give a solid "Well Done!" to gchagui.

He has performed extensive testing on the electrode.

gchagui, Please let me know if I can post the URL. Thanks

DallasGoldBug

Well... as an engineer.... curious...jejeje... I started by looking up info on doing hho ... bla bla bla... finding out DallasGoldBug twister's design was the most effective ( couple of weeks browsing through internet) so I started my own proyect.
I believe you should not waste any time searching on what is already invented, just star from there (if you know what you are doing) and keep on....... I got scared, when I saw DallasGoldBug's videos went offline.... well the ones that could actually show how this was build....
good reason ... getting the pattends.. Hope this can get you a lot of money instead of killed or dissapeared.. just kidding.

For now, I have a 125cc motorcycle, in wich my dream is to make it run only on hydrogen....
just to start, I have build a 4 cup 2.5 oz..... and it works perfect...it's kind of small, just for the motorcycle.I will get hydrogen through the air intake.... I will improve it, make it stable,,, and voila....... I WILL POST, ( I just hope I just won't dissapear) trust me on this, I will make this happen.... and as I said before... I don't need to waste time on whatever somebody else has... so.... if you have any concrete ideas... post....

Let's make this dream come true
Thanks to everybody

dani1 · « **Reply #87 on:** June 06, 2008, 05:34:00 PM »

Quote from: dani1 on May 21, 2008, 04:35:09 PM

Frequencies?
I heared that 14.3kHZ and 43.4 khZ Pulses at 1000v hits the water. is it right?

http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ElectrolyseAC.pdf

NerzhDishual · « **Reply #88 on:** June 07, 2008, 01:08:36 AM »

@Powercat

I momentally gave up PWM. I did not manage to get interesting results while freq. tuning
these Dave Lawton circuits.

Actually, all the devices I have tested (including a Meyer 'like'
Saintless Steel concentric tubes) seem not to care about the frequency
of the pulsed wave but only about the duty cycle of the said waves.
This duty cycle tuning can, however, be of any help to adjust the gas production.
The more the cycle is on the more production.

I should definitely have missed something about frequencies.

Perhaps, I'm not using the right transistor this BUZ350

I have ordered (and received) these things and will test them.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Yes I have tried 24 volts and also 36 volts. Guess what (watt!)

V= R* I so I = V/R as 'R' does not vary with the voltage (it could have),
I just got a linear increase in the amperage consumption and in (the visual)
gas production, of course.

I have also started to make some gas production measurements with my
"poor man" gas measurement set. Please check:
http://freenrg.info/Exp_With_DallasGB_Elect/Other_Devices_Measurements.html

So, more to come ASAP.

Best

2goodbucs · « **Reply #89 on:** June 07, 2008, 03:43:02 AM »

I would love to use a PWM in my system. Anyone know any good sites where they sell good quality PWM's? I know you can use less amps for the same amount of hydrogen being produced by using a PWM.

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