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FosterVS

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2008, 04:06:39 PM »
Awesome! I have built the watercell
device from
http://www.overunity.com/hho.htm

(coils of stainless wire on a plexi core, very low output) as well as one I made from stainless wallplates (good output, but high current draw i.e. 15amps@12VDC).

Have you measured the current draw on the device? I have seen other devices with a center negative plate, two outer positive plates and the rest are disconnected i.e. neutral. I wonder if the hydrogen production would be similar with less current draw. Also, I missed mention of what you are using for electrolyte.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2008, 04:07:59 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2008, 07:26:07 PM »
hey dallas, remember the you tube video hydrogen tony? where you asked the psi rating of my cell?
well if you havent checked back on it, it is rated for 135 psi, although i only got it to 27 psi before i got bored.  keep it up...

as far as the prendev video..........lame... just seems like some jackas with alot of money and no intellegence,  are you guys sure its the same guy with the magnet motor???????

Ioku

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2008, 12:06:48 AM »
So I built one of Dallas vortex cells, found the cups at walmart, I built one using 7 cups and have it in my car. I'm just using distiled water right now so HHO production is low, still waiting for my koh to get here. once it gets here I'll try and do a lpm test and see how efficient it is.

FosterVS

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2008, 12:13:38 AM »
So I built one of Dallas vortex cells, found the cups at walmart, I built one using 7 cups and have it in my car. I'm just using distiled water right now so HHO production is low, still waiting for my koh to get here. once it gets here I'll try and do a lpm test and see how efficient it is.

Couldn't find these cups at Walmart here in Canada, however I was able to locate them at a chain called "Superstore". These ones are pretty thin metal.

I have one installed in my vehicle, using distilled water and baking soda as electrolyte. However, it is really sucking the current - started with a 20A fuse, which it blew almost immediately. Even a 30A fuse blew fairly quick. Going to have to use a larger scale fuse, and higher current rating, or switch to a circuit breaker.

Ioku

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2008, 08:19:20 AM »
From what I have read you have to get the mix of electrolyte down enough so you don't pull so many amps, I also read that baking soda is not so good because it can cause a coating to form on the electrodes, thats why I am still waiting on the KOH, and has anyone here bought KOH from biodiesel barn I ordered some about 2 weeks ago and it is still not here.

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2008, 08:53:58 AM »
Hey Dallas,

I contacted you on Ebay about your Cell being the best one out of all the others on Ebay and that I have done a similar setup as yours with the cups.

Anyways, my first setup didn't contain any holes and I used the lips of the cups, or as I would say "the love handles", as my positive or negative connection for each cup and then I would use zip ties for my spacers between each cup. I used Gorilla Glue to attach the Zip Ties to the inside of the cup in a triangle of 3's and by using Gorilla Glue the glue would expand to where it will create a firm wedge between the two cups holding it in place. After testing, that created a very good amount of bubbles and then I decided to make another cell with a hole in it.

So on my 2nd setup I wanted to drill a hole in the cup to allow the bubbles to have more than one way to rise and drilling that sucker was a pain in the butt. It was like Superman's chest was right at the tip of my drill bit. I used a small PVC pipe grip to hold the cup in place and then used my waist to keep the PVC pipe grip from spinning and put my whole body weight down on the cup. After doing that and adding a bilge pump to suck the bubbles out and shoot it back in the PVC canister, it looked like it was creating massive amounts of HHO.

I tested to see how many amps a 5 cup setup would draw and it took about 6-7 amps on a 12v battery and it created some crazy amounts of HHO with a little baking soda. I hope you do very well on Ebay my friend. I will probably sell my first HHO Unit soon on Ebay. Keep up the great work.

FosterVS

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2008, 04:50:47 AM »
I have kind of given up on this setup - current draw is melting insulation on heavy guage wires, blowing 30A fuses.This was with 9 cups. I reduced my "cup tower" down to 6 cups, still drawing unmanageable current. Fantastic HHO output, until the fuse blows or the wires gets so hot they start smoking.

I guess its time to experiment with a more exotic electronics setup than just straight 12VDC off the battery.

2goodbucs

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2008, 05:02:09 AM »
I have kind of given up on this setup - current draw is melting insulation on heavy guage wires, blowing 30A fuses.This was with 9 cups. I reduced my "cup tower" down to 6 cups, still drawing unmanageable current. Fantastic HHO output, until the fuse blows or the wires gets so hot they start smoking.

I guess its time to experiment with a more exotic electronics setup than just straight 12VDC off the battery.


Start without a catalyst and then add a small amount of baking soda or whatever the electrolyte is until you get to the desired amp draw.

FosterVS

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2008, 08:22:00 PM »
Start without a catalyst and then add a small amount of baking soda or whatever the electrolyte is until you get to the desired amp draw.

Good point - never thought of that. Having a hard time locating KOH here in Canada.

Something else I am thinking about - what about adding a "dryer" inline i.e. a container packed with dessicant, or a premade inline dessicant dryer made for use with air compressors? Would this not help to remove water vapor?

jeanna

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2008, 03:59:22 AM »
Dallas,
did the youtube address change?
I just noticed this thread today and the link takes me to the general page with everybody's favorites, but not this???


it sez you deleted it???

jeanna

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2008, 12:18:14 AM »
Hi Jeanna

Looks like that video is gone or was changed. He does have 7 other videos out there though,  at least I think these are his,

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dallasgoldbug&search_type=

Edit:
I think  this was the one you wanted,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yH4tKZazIQ
Cheers
Steve

jeanna

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2008, 04:00:52 AM »
 
Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yH4tKZazIQ[/color]

Steve

Thanks Steve  :D 2 liters/min wow

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2008, 05:37:52 AM »
For the peoples that look for stainless steel cup like Dallas are using, if you lived in Canada, Quebec. In the dollarshop (dollarama) they have this cup, they sell it 4 cups for 1$!!

I will use them for my cell. so 5$ and 20 cups!! :)

Ioku

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2008, 12:56:57 AM »
Just an update on my work with this cell I got some electrolyte, NaOH, and was getting some good production but it was pulling too much amps and was blowing my 30 amp fuses so I reduced the electrolyte and tried again, I got it too not blow the 30 amp fuses but gas production was low only .15 lpm and the thing got so hot after only 4 mins that it started foaming up. You got any suggestions, how long have you ran this thing for at one time cuz it seems to overheat easily.

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Re: HHO ON DEMAND BY PERENDEV
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2008, 02:39:36 AM »

Hi Ioku,

Welcome to the 'OU' club...

I'm, at present, testing the genuine DallasGoldBug's electrodes with various
'feeding'. DC . DC pulsed, various frequencies and various duty cycles.
IMHO, this device does not care about freq, likes DC current and is
sensitive about duty cycle. I use baking soda.. It 'sounds' very efficient.

As I have not yet finished to build the cell, I'm not still able to measure any volume gas production.
(And I should get my mouth shut  :P)

Anyway : '15 lpm' ? Do you mean 15 liters per minute? = 15*60 = 900 liters/hour???
If yes, this is an huge gas production.

Best