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Author Topic: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.  (Read 109035 times)

Newton007

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #285 on: January 07, 2008, 01:37:05 AM »
Grumpy,

Here is something that might be worth a shot.

Using an automotive distributer, old time point type, from a auto salvage and some ignition coil (s). (cheap)

A old small 120 volt AC DC brush type (appliance) motor connected to the shaft, a variac for the motor speed control,

 A 12 volt DC power supply for the ignition coil (s)

A spark gap antenna/coil/ transmitter type set up out of the secondary of the ignition coil(s).

Speed control set to to 7.3 HZ or close.
 
May have to file down the lobes or use capacitors on the primary to get the wave form you want on the scope.

I would say a spike with a slope or just a spike. (kick)
 
Use this setup for the transmitter.
 
Do a rough set calculation on your receiver coil for 7.3 HZ. 

Place some what close together, tune (fiddle with) your receiver coil until something shows in voltage.

Cross fingers.

But don't tune dead on or you might find the real 7.3 HZ. signal!

See what happens when you drink too much diet Pepsi? Stuff like this happens.

Newton   

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #286 on: January 07, 2008, 03:26:14 AM »
I did try the pencil experiment.   
« Last Edit: January 10, 2008, 05:22:42 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #287 on: January 07, 2008, 03:38:06 AM »
Grumpy,

Contact me off line.

Newton

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #288 on: January 07, 2008, 04:16:57 AM »
 8)

may i perscribe some orbit energy  ;)

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #289 on: January 07, 2008, 04:52:43 AM »
Orbit energy?  what the hell is that?

There is energy in pulses - period.

Reading up on wave symmetry - kinda  interesting. 

Waves with zero-axis symetry have no DC component and generally means no even harmonics. (except under certain conditions such as d\first and secon in-phase). Odd harmonics always combine, regardless of phase, to form zero-axis symmetry.

Waves with 1/2 wave symetry have no odd  harmonics.

Waves with 1/4 wave symmetry have all harmonics in-phase with fundamental and this is always produced by even harmonics and will generally n ot exist with odd harmonics present.

Marking page as this may be more interesting later.

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #290 on: January 07, 2008, 04:54:12 AM »
    Say this 7.3hz signal interacts with the electrons in a conductor in such a manner that some of it's power adds to the electron velocity in the outer valence orbitals of say a copper conductor atomic structure.  Then come along the kicks. A small electrical field which is just enough to add to the already excited electron's velocity.  This results in the electrons leaving their orbitals and they express their kinetic energy which is in excess of the energy the kicker field production required.  Now comes the tricky part.  If nothing else happens the electrons will get pulled into another atom where they will stay (no more collector current).  All we would have is a 7.3hz pulse.  So what if in addition to the kicks we produce an electromagnetic wave circulating through the ring collector.  This wave has enough power to keep the kicked electrons from getting sucked back into the atomic orbitals.  So now the kinetic energy of the electrons begins to manifest as a dc current flow with a wave riding around on it.  The collector atoms are electron starved and put out a strong protonic attractor charge.  On top of that the kickers are running out of valence electrons to accelerate.  The 7.3hz sun wave is now exciting electrons in subvalence orbitals but it is going to take one hell of a kick to get these babies off the ground.  So you start to get heating of the collector windings instead of electron flow unless we get some photons to enter the system.  If the protonic charge of the collector windings is capable of doing this then we start to get an unlimited energy converter going.  Control of this converter is simple: limit the amount of protonic attracted charges from getting to the unit.
Put it in a frigging box and feed it some light when it starts to slow down.
    Below is a diagram of how I understand the unit would work.

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #291 on: January 07, 2008, 05:05:38 AM »
Remember the movie "Dune" and how "vibration" - like from a thumper or a mining vehicle - brought the worms?   
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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #292 on: January 07, 2008, 05:31:02 AM »
@sparks
I 've tried to understand your theory but the pictures with characters in your web pages are too small.

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #293 on: January 07, 2008, 03:01:45 PM »
I'm thining more loang the lines of Rife's cloudbuster and the works of Russell:

To get rain the cloudbuster transmits the vibration of water and recieves a great deal of water as rainfall.  Rife's cloudbuster is OU - guess it's how you look at it.

So, we send out our "signal" and then get the goods in return - more than we sent out. 

There are some other words to describe this.

Remember the movie "Dune" and how "vibration" - like from a thumper or a mining vehicle - brought the worms?   Kinda like that in a distant wierd way.

@grumpy

      Funny coincidence.  The electron orbitals in a conductor are often described as an electron cloud.  They are very loosely bound to the neucleus.
Copper molecular structure is amorphourous or in other words with no defined bond angles from atom to atom.  Just an everchanging cloud of electrons randomly drifting between atoms.
      Can't resist drawing one more analogy between the tpu and Earth.  That is the vortex storms on Earth.  If you can think of the kicker's as the construct that creates an electron cloud independent of the conductor from whence the electrons came from
then an analogy can be drawn between that and the radiant energy of the Sun lifting up trillions upon trillons of gallons of water from the oceans everyday.  The energy in the clouds is not just the radiant energy that lifted them but also contains the energy that was in the Ocean's relatively warm water to begin with.  They are in a field now that is independent of the oceans from whence they came.  If the clouds start to travel in an orbiting pattern (the wave I mentioned in a previous post) a low pressure area starts to form. (electron depleted collector winding).  Now there is a guide for the ocean's energy to flow directly from the ocean to the cloud system independent of the radiant energy of the Sun. (protonic attraction of energy towards the inside of the tpu)  The eye of the storm is analogous (is that a word) to the inner circle of the tpu. (Just where SM tells us to put the controls if you want them to work or not be destroyed)  The cloud heigth builds and gets cooled off at the top which now causes a vertical vortex in all planes.  This vertical vortex picks up energy from the ocean as it lower's the pressure as it sweeps across the ocean surface.  This allows more watervapor to enter the system.  (This is what you don't want to happen with your tpu or you are going to have an emp that isn't going to be very friendly)  The only thing that stops the hurricane is it goes somewhere where there is colder ocean or it migrates overland where it finds less water vapor to feed on.  That's why I keep on preaching that the only way to control the tpu is to have someway of limiting the flow of energy towards the collector winding.  I also believe that when SM said he crushed coils he meant he crushed coils when they were operating.  I notice that he puts a channel in the wooden bases to keep the coil from folding-up on itself and then coats the whole thing in an effort  to fortify the whole collector.  I believe once the collector gets going it's gravitational strength can cause it to like impode.
     
« Last Edit: January 07, 2008, 06:24:30 PM by sparks »

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #294 on: January 07, 2008, 04:39:34 PM »
Grumpy,

Here is something that might be worth a shot.

Using an automotive distributer, old time point type, from a auto salvage and some ignition coil (s). (cheap)

A old small 120 volt AC DC brush type (appliance) motor connected to the shaft, a variac for the motor speed control,

 A 12 volt DC power supply for the ignition coil (s)

A spark gap antenna/coil/ transmitter type set up out of the secondary of the ignition coil(s).

Speed control set to to 7.3 HZ or close.
 
May have to file down the lobes or use capacitors on the primary to get the wave form you want on the scope.

I would say a spike with a slope or just a spike. (kick)
 
Use this setup for the transmitter.
 
Do a rough set calculation on your receiver coil for 7.3 HZ. 

Place some what close together, tune (fiddle with) your receiver coil until something shows in voltage.

Cross fingers.

But don't tune dead on or you might find the real 7.3 HZ. signal!

See what happens when you drink too much diet Pepsi? Stuff like this happens.

Newton   

If you are wanting to use a HV ignition coil you might want to look at a GM control module for triggering it. THis will eliminate the mechanical points you mentioned. I have several of these modules and it is relativly cheap ($10.00 USD) and can be obtained at your local auto parts store. Takes 12Vdc in and you can trigger the module using a simple Sq wave generator at what ever Freq you like (with in operating parameters). I have a set up like that and it works great. I used the setup for a jacobs ladder. I even used 2 ignition coils, one wired in opposite polarity to increase output.

Hope this helps

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #295 on: January 07, 2008, 06:41:09 PM »
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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #296 on: January 07, 2008, 06:42:22 PM »
   I would think that you need to build a small receiver that is tuned to the 7.3 hz wave.  Then you know when the pulses are coming at you.   It becomes a feedback sensor.  Then you work from there to initiate your kicks.  You don't want to phase lock the kicks to the wave or you are going to construct a wave that is going to have a shitload of amplitude and most likely blow all your stuff up if not you. :(

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #297 on: January 07, 2008, 07:25:58 PM »
The problem is the low frequency and tuning to it.  You need a lot of inductance and a lot of capacitance.

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #298 on: January 07, 2008, 07:47:14 PM »
Carl,
Thanks for the information.
Your Idea is better of course, but my idea looks more, well experimental in a traditional way of the old time inventors.
Some big knife switches also help this effect too.

Newton

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #299 on: January 07, 2008, 07:57:44 PM »
Grumpy,
Have you looked at the tapes yet?

Newton