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Author Topic: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.  (Read 108910 times)

innovation_station

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #270 on: January 06, 2008, 08:48:42 PM »
LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD!!!


the time is now


for the sake of our existence i recommend all watch the 4 videos in my Sig.....

who's damn team are we on !?!?!?!?!

ist

@ newton  i would well think you know exactly what this is ..........

Newton007

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #271 on: January 06, 2008, 08:49:29 PM »
Marco, I understand the picture now I thought it was something else.

Newton

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #272 on: January 06, 2008, 09:01:48 PM »
Can't say as I do.
Is this a test?
I always failed those ink blot tests as every one of them looked like an ice cream cone to me.

Newton

innovation_station

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #273 on: January 06, 2008, 09:03:42 PM »
let this be know en

in me posting this i got a very bad head ache ........ almost instantally


newton do tell me where that came from.......


isteam!!

i will not be controlled thank you!!!!   i will be screaming freedom in the streets where the peoples meet!!

Newton007

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #274 on: January 06, 2008, 09:09:19 PM »
I am not sure how to respond.

Do you need some Aspirin?

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #275 on: January 06, 2008, 09:15:10 PM »
in case he doesn't need it, I DO!!

feel some noise comming up again...

Newton007

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #276 on: January 06, 2008, 09:19:09 PM »
Hi Marco,

Thank you for the information. I am new here and have only been here a few days so, I am trying to get up to speed on this TPU thing.

I hope I can help.

Newton

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #277 on: January 06, 2008, 09:29:37 PM »
Always best to ignore the background noise if you can't get rid of it.

« Last Edit: January 10, 2008, 05:27:14 PM by Grumpy »

turbo

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #278 on: January 06, 2008, 09:49:47 PM »
in case he doesn't need it, I DO!!

feel some noise comming up again...

Nice avatar! ;) Can it fly?

That would be the ultimate goal...
The sky is the limit  ;D

Newton007

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #279 on: January 06, 2008, 10:01:12 PM »
Hi Grumpy,

I got your "message". I am still new here.

Wow, you found some fly back transformers.
The wave form comes from the horizontal control circuit, then that wave form signal @ (14,000 > HZ) is fed to the grid of the horizontal output tube the big one if you have the set..
The transformer does not shape the wave form.
The power from the horizontal output tube powers the fly back transformer.
This is done at about 600 volts off the plate of the output tube. It would be hard to operate without the rest of the circuit and the schematic.
There is a damper tube also to control the fly back transformer.
It all works together as a unit.

If you do try to try to power it up with some square wave generator amp set up, watch the high voltage! about 16K!!! RF before the HV rectifier.

I am doing this from memory (1968) so don't quote me on this information. But do be carefull. It will jump out at you!
Do you see the design?

Remember, this is where the inventor's head was at, at some point before he invented his device.

Newton

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #280 on: January 06, 2008, 10:20:37 PM »
I'll have to figure...
« Last Edit: January 10, 2008, 05:26:14 PM by Grumpy »

Newton007

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #281 on: January 06, 2008, 10:55:45 PM »
I want to say, 14,000 something HZ, but not sure,
However it is a industry standard and all US made sets used this same exact horizontal sweep frequency.
In the same exact wave form. Spike with a slope. The vertical output was at 60 HZ., so this was no good for HV generation for the CRT.

But the AC line power was used to synchronize the 60 HZ vertical sweep. So if you had trash on the power lines, your set would go whacko.

The transformer is designed for just one frequency sort of like the TPU except the fly back transformer had to be dead on frequency or the set would get those strange horizontal lines.
See the one loop HV rectifier heater winding?
See the insulation?
It was at high voltage potential too.

Then the horizontal oscillator tubes would get weak the frequency would drift and the set would go out of kilter, even though you still had a picture of sorts.

However there hundreds of different designs to do the same thing usually in a effort to save costs so as time went on they, after about 1971 turned to crap TVs, not even worth repairing, the BW ones any way.

The fly back has a special iron core, design, the TPU has a air core, ahhh something?

The TPU has to be off to one side of the frequency or according to the inventor. Boom!

Newton

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #282 on: January 06, 2008, 11:19:31 PM »
I just went to Wickapedia and there is a whole lot of information on fly back transformers.

15734 HZ. dead on. so I was not too far off. Hey on E bay there is a fly back tester and a bunch of TV stuff. I like the web.

Newton

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #283 on: January 07, 2008, 12:19:49 AM »
more winding...
« Last Edit: January 10, 2008, 05:23:32 PM by Grumpy »

Newton007

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Re: Some thoughts on how the TPU might work.
« Reply #284 on: January 07, 2008, 12:54:02 AM »
Grumpy,

No, I don't remember the book, sounds interesting though,
I just went to several sites.
Do a Google search on fly back transformers, there is a lot of good information. I am going to study this as it has been a very long time away from this information.
I want to look at HV rectifiers solid state units used in later fly backs after the tube era.
 
There are hv diode push type circuits, that push up the voltage in the coils a little at a time between coil windings with each pulse. There may be something here. Don't know.


There is much catching up here for me.

There are some sites now that have old technical electronic books 1900 to about 1970,  they have to be torn up to scan, so the book is worthless as the pages are torn out, but the information is secure stored and backed up allowing any one to read them on the web. It is great deal and they are always looking for old books. 

Good luck with your new coil.

Newton

 
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