Author Topic: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning. (Read 644521 times)

Localjoe · « **Reply #45 on:** September 27, 2007, 04:21:09 AM »

ive got a o-scope program that has a dual freq gen built in and i think it will do what your asking how could i send it to you, rather i dont have my own ftp and it would be easier if i could upload it somewhere not attach it to an e-mail, well i cant attach it its 35 meg hmmm
Joe

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #46 on:** September 27, 2007, 04:51:58 AM »

Quote from: giantkiller on September 26, 2007, 11:11:46 PM

OK.

Keely states that at 42khz water will explode.

Can someone please tell me where Keely said that? The only reference I have ever found relating to 42800 Hz is in relation to magnetism and antigravity.

Please someone tell me where he talks about that frequency in relation to water.

Hans von Lieven

giantkiller · « **Reply #47 on:** September 27, 2007, 05:38:27 AM »

Let me look again. the 42.8khz is what I saw. I will look again.

On another note. I have the (2) 12v lawn and garden batteries and everything hooked up. The amp has the heterodyning appearing all throughout the circuit instead of on seperate channels. I need to scope this out. But the amps run and the totem pole fets works too. Just up and works. Too cool.

@Joe,
Is it a personal prog that you wrote or can it be downlded from somewhere?

If anybody knows of a temp site for transfer we can get this out. The 3 freqs are very important. I just had a friend get blown away by TPU sings #6 video. It travels well.

--giantkiller. Don't want to mislead anybody.

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #48 on:** September 27, 2007, 05:54:58 AM »

G'day Giantkiller,

I have just downloaded a 2 channel oscilloscope with a dual frequency generator.Have a look there and see if its any good to you, its free and has quite a bit of documentation. I haven't had a chance to put it through its paces yet, so no guarantees. :-)

http://www.allworldsoft.com/cgi/screenshot.cgi?t=2&id=822

Greetings

Hans von Lieven

bolt · « **Reply #49 on:** September 27, 2007, 05:55:24 AM »

GK as much as its fun to play with sounds you really need to move on to hit the coils with these sine waves i been pushing now for a couple of weeks. Anyone wants to play with sounds can do this with the NCH tone generator on a PC which is about 30 bucks i think to unlock the 30 day trial and it maybe just as good if not more stable then the sig gens you are using. but the bandwidth is far too limited for tpu testing i suspect. It will however do 3 or many more concurrent frequencies of square sine and triangle to get a "feel" of creating 3D which is the basic principle of a tpu.

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #50 on:** September 27, 2007, 06:14:15 AM »

G'day all,

Try this for a frequency generator, it has 10 channels fully adjustable. Just unzip and click on the oran20 icon, it does not need installing. The guy that wrote it is Russian, so there is no documentation to speak of only a small text file, but it is not hard to figure out.I have used it, checks out OK but it takes a long time to render when you have complex sounds and it has no facility for looping. I will post some more function generators when I get the time, I have quite a few. I also have a few more scopes.

Hans von Lieven

Localjoe · « **Reply #51 on:** September 27, 2007, 06:28:36 AM »

Here's a screen shot, no i didnt write it i just found it a few months ago and held onto it its free, anyways it has recording features and lets you do signal analysis and freq stuff with band pass filters and what not.

acerzw · « **Reply #52 on:** September 27, 2007, 01:28:09 PM »

@GK,

Cool, I will try this, I don't know if you are still using the three frequencies from the Tibetan Pipe Document, but would suggest even if you arent, that you try those frequencies with a tube from each speaker ending just short of the center. If the theory is correct you should find that a sizeable object placed in middle will lose some weight or perhaps decided that gravity just isn't that important after all!

As you have a separate channel and frequency for each speaker your setup would be perfect for this. Not sure if this is what you intended but definetly worth a go...

@BEP

Apologies where was that 'Closed System Pulse' diagram you posted from/what does it relate to?

@Bolt

You have contributed so much in such a short time I know you are waiting to see the results of your contributions etc, but have patience, GK is methodical and is taking the right approach, step by step and steady, taking time to examine the results of each stage. This process is likely to avoid simple mistakes, and his frequent updates are a kind of peer review (though he has no equal in MHO), it also gives others a chance to feedback into the process. It also prevents the project going off on Otto Style (no disrespect Otto) type side journeys, which may eventually be productive but are outside of the current plan. In short be patient, GK is taking giant steps in short times, do you really want him to run with all the metal in his feet and blow himself up?... No me neither... High Speed Cruise Control is just the job

Acerzw

innovation_station · « **Reply #53 on:** September 27, 2007, 01:46:21 PM »

i was playing with nch tone generator last night for a few hours and......

i finally found a good combo of freqs and i found in playing that the closer the freqs are to each other the better the effect

ist

acerzw · « **Reply #54 on:** September 27, 2007, 01:54:09 PM »

IS,

be careful powerful VLF waves can liquify your guts, did you hear about the scientist who build a 12 foot steam whistle, the lab assistant got pulped. No joke 2hz I think it was.

Acerzw

innovation_station · « **Reply #55 on:** September 27, 2007, 03:20:05 PM »

@all

just gearing up for the big audio test this weekend

i have an invorentory of car audio equip i will be playing with including 3 450w speekers a 4 channel alpine audio amp and 2 computers for the freq gennys and some 12vdc batteries lets just say it can get verry lould lol!! the subs are also DVC so i could really put 6 inputs to 3 speekers

hummmm..... 2 phases?? 2 dirrections hummm..... so many ways it can be hooked up to mimic the tpu in audio

all subs are capable of 1 ohm load

oh yea so are the amps can you say BOOM BOOM KABOOM!! LOL!!

but for the first test all amps and speekers will be 4 ohm load

yes i will make a video of it and post it

ist

Thaelin · « **Reply #56 on:** September 27, 2007, 04:02:06 PM »

I think IS is about to discover the cause of the statement, "Rock till you puke".

Be easy and know that certain tones CAN kill.

thaelin

giantkiller · « **Reply #57 on:** September 27, 2007, 04:47:58 PM »

Quote from: bolt on September 27, 2007, 05:55:24 AM

GK as much as its fun to play with sounds you really need to move on to hit the coils with these sine waves i been pushing now for a couple of weeks. Anyone wants to play with sounds can do this with the NCH tone generator on a PC which is about 30 bucks i think to unlock the 30 day trial and it maybe just as good if not more stable then the sig gens you are using. but the bandwidth is far too limited for tpu testing i suspect. It will however do 3 or many more concurrent frequencies of square sine and triangle to get a "feel" of creating 3D which is the basic principle of a tpu.

Yes Sir,
I am making steps every day and pushing forward. I used 78ls05's in the ad826 class A-s. They aren't high enough spec. I will move to the 7805 T220.
I mentioned the move into the freq gens for others. It was fun watching IS tune while I scoped out my amps. I am not far from the progress you want me to get to.

Thanks guys for all the gen software ideas. The playground is a little more open for others. And more artifacts towards the validation of other historic men and their experiments.

--giantkiller.

giantkiller · « **Reply #58 on:** September 27, 2007, 07:40:34 PM »

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 27, 2007, 04:51:58 AM

Quote from: giantkiller on September 26, 2007, 11:11:46 PM
OK.

Keely states that at 42khz water will explode.

Can someone please tell me where Keely said that? The only reference I have ever found relating to 42800 Hz is in relation to magnetism and antigravity.

Please someone tell me where he talks about that frequency in relation to water.

Hans von Lieven

"While yet a young man, Keely learned carpentry and used his income to pursue his experiments in sound vibrations. About 1866 while he was pursuing a line of experimentation in sonic vibrations, he discovered a hitherto unknown energy. He was subjecting water to sonic vibrations and had an explosion which wrecked his apparatus. Six years of intensive experiments passed before he was able to produce this energy at will. He found that 42,800 vibrations per second would vaporise water instantly into energy. He named this energy 'Etheric Force' and the process of changing the substance of water into etheric force Dissociation".

--giantkiller. Sounds gut wrenching to me, eh?

BEP · « **Reply #59 on:** September 27, 2007, 07:43:20 PM »

Quote from: acerzw on September 27, 2007, 01:28:09 PM

@BEP

Apologies where was that 'Closed System Pulse' diagram you posted from/what does it relate to?

The graphic I posted was originally from another web site. It matched my configuration to produce a dual vertical magnetic vortex. At frequencies above 300 kHz I experienced the not-so-believable anomalies. Details not suitable to clog GK's thread. Basically posted to show that 90 degrees IS important in magnetics - not so in audio. In audio the rogue wave effect is an increase in amplitude. In magnetics it is an increase in magnetic vacuum - the same way CRT beams are focused and directed. Notice I didn't say 'accelerated'. When people see ?accelerated? they think more power ? not true. Particle speed and direction can be controlled with magnetics. If a particle is drawn into a field it will exit at 90 degrees out the side (solenoid type coil with a bias). When it exits another takes its place etc. etc.

No apologies required. I post what I think will help and has been confirmed true. If I need to explain then I will, when possible.

Gripes about working with audio? I don?t understand. SM was definitely into audio. This may be the path he took. Once you understand it you are light years ahead of others building coils ? IMO

Your results rock GK ? go ahead and stop to smell the flowers, man.

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