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Author Topic: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.  (Read 635841 times)

giantkiller

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2007, 08:09:12 PM »
@BEP

Apologies where was that 'Closed System Pulse' diagram you posted from/what does it relate to?

The graphic I posted was originally from another web site. It matched my configuration to produce a dual vertical magnetic vortex. At frequencies above 300 kHz I experienced the not-so-believable anomalies. Details not suitable to clog GK's thread. Basically posted to show that 90 degrees IS important in magnetics - not so in audio. In audio the rogue wave effect is an increase in amplitude. In magnetics it is an increase in magnetic vacuum - the same way CRT beams are focused and directed. Notice I didn't say 'accelerated'. When people see ?accelerated? they think more power ? not true. Particle speed and direction can be controlled with magnetics. If a particle is drawn into a field it will exit at 90 degrees out the side (solenoid type coil with a bias). When it exits another takes its place etc. etc.

No apologies required. I post what I think will help and has been confirmed true. If I need to explain then I will, when possible.

Gripes about working with audio? I don?t understand. SM was definitely into audio. This may be the path he took. Once you understand it you are light years ahead of others building coils ? IMO

Your results rock GK ? go ahead and stop to smell the flowers, man.


Thanks much. As you know and others soon, the audio is a good starter platform with minimal resources.
We wound coils for over a year. Everybody was jumping in with their latest heap addition. To no avail. Even after I blew shit up things still went down the yellow brick road.
With the switch to audio I was up to speed in a week with hardware. But the big deal is that the other posters were fully aware in 2 weeks. Wow. Imagine that?
Kinda makes my head spin. Pun intended.

Thanks, Bolt.

Two soundwaves crossing at right angles have a profound effect on each other that becomes more noticeable when the frequency of the waves are different. :o
The dissociation of water with a vibratory stream is not an easy task and should not be undertaken lightly without reasonable safeguards especially as to explosions.

--giantkiller. Most humbly and still having fun at it.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 08:39:23 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2007, 08:28:05 PM »
just looking and playing around i found a freq calc it is kool makes things easyer here it is http://www.microvolt.com/harmonics.html

also i was finding combo's of freqs to play with and when i use that calc and the harmonics dosent matter the freq i end up with the same wave i thought it was neet  so if you know the freq of the collector  use the calc for the other 2 freqs

is

here is a sound file i made using 1st freq then 2nd harmonic then 3rd harmonic all at once

i used  47.5hz 95hz 142.5hz i used 40 hz as the base freq like our collector coil here is a pic of the wave
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 10:04:14 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2007, 09:22:44 PM »

"While yet a young man, Keely learned carpentry and used his income to pursue his experiments in sound vibrations. About 1866 while he was pursuing a line of experimentation in sonic vibrations, he discovered a hitherto unknown energy. He was subjecting water to sonic vibrations and had an explosion which wrecked his apparatus. Six years of intensive experiments passed before he was able to produce this energy at will. He found that 42,800 vibrations per second would vaporise water instantly into energy. He named this energy 'Etheric Force' and the process of changing the substance of water into etheric force Dissociation".

--giantkiller. Sounds gut wrenching to me, eh?

G'day Giantkiller,

This is probably something Dan A Davidson wrote. I am aware of these stories, my query is that I cannot find anywhere KEELY saying something like this, not even in a news interview. I would love to know where this idea came from.

Perhaps I am being a bit pedantic here, but isn't this what good research is all about?

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2007, 10:41:00 PM »
@Is

I think that will have to be track two on 'TPU's Greatest Hits', track one has to be GK's bombastic TPU#5 Video soundtrack, which resonates buildings/neighbourhoods, though I am waiting for an MP3 from this coming weekend session which I reckon will be GK's best gig yet (and may cause minor earthquakes, and potentially split the earth in half, if it resonates with your gig!)  :P

@BEP

Thanks for the info.

Acerzw, waiting for the Earth to ring like a bell two days hence... TPU'Geddon

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2007, 11:18:35 PM »
I totally agree. I honed in on the water and explosions. It's in my nature. :D

--giantkiller.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2007, 11:26:01 PM »
G'day Giantkiller and all,

Acerzw has just put me onto a pdf that is on line here. I think this will interest you.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1872.0;attach=12444

Let me know what you think, shouldn't be too difficult to do with your rig.

I'm trying it too.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #66 on: September 27, 2007, 11:40:19 PM »
@hans

I think GK etc are all aware... but worth while posting again for those that didn't catch it the first time around... very interesting document originally found and posted by thaelin...

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #67 on: September 27, 2007, 11:48:38 PM »
LOL

I thought of this the minute I posted it. I guess I was carried away with my enthusiasm and my willingness to share.

Not too bad an attribute, I hope.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2007, 11:59:35 PM »
Oh yeah. I was all over that one when it came out.
We be growing new brains!

That is where I got 120 degrees spatial distancing from. BUT! I just saw something new!!!!!!!!! He pumped the audio down PVC pipes as wave guides to the center. Damn! I mean bam!
I got to try that. Any wave shape or mix should prove quite interesting. Drop a water balloon or a piece of fruit in the middle.

--giantkiller. But alas. My marching instructions are to connect the TPU. So I must do that first. That is bigger. But when Igor gets back from the brain parts store. O-boy.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2007, 12:05:01 AM »
@hans

Indeed not, its open source, thats what its all about  :)

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2007, 12:50:26 AM »
42712.2Hz is also claimed as a water disintegration frequency.  Source unknown, so unverified. 

You might ask someone who dissociated water.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2007, 01:00:02 AM »
G'day all,

Maybe a little off the thread but perhaps of interest.

This is the set-up I am in the process of developing right now. Any suggestions in relation to this design. For the moment I will go along with the frequency that has been bandied around, though I strongly suspect that the carrier frequency has to be a harmonic of the fundamental on which the composite audio signal is built or vice versa.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2007, 01:12:07 AM »
Whoa!!!

You dissociate that much water, or even a portion of it, and you will NOT live to tell about it.

That is the brutal, honest truth.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2007, 01:17:05 AM »
Sorry Grumpy,

This is intended as a diagram of principle only, not of actual dimensions. I am well aware of the dangers involved. I have had explosions too.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2007, 01:17:29 AM »
- Sorry, computer stuff up