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giantkiller

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2007, 12:44:38 AM »
Many of these noises, like hammer blows, grinding noises, bumps and so forth are rich in harmonics, some of which would have been picked up by Keely's ultra sensitive equipment throwing the carefully arranged harmonic relationships out of balance and stopping the mechanism or sending it into an uncontrollable spin, perhaps even exploding it. I feel that many of the explosions that dogged Keely all his life were due to the influence of uncontrollable extraneous vibrations.

And this why square waves are problematic and difficult to harness the output.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2007, 03:11:35 AM »
Quick! hansvonlieven, he said the word Keely! Thats your queue to post!
Just giving you a hard time, but to your point hansvonlieven, Keely had great insight
and prosperity (though from the sounds of it his work was often "problematic") into
acoustics, and wave theory in general. Since his scientific understanding was based off of physical
models one must keep one thing in mind, each of Keely's instruments always vibrated at its resonant frequency.
Thus in building working models, Keely was forced to marry the frequency with physical shape and size.
From what I have seen, many of his devices were almost ellegant. They almost look like they would make sense.
This was not my first observation however. First I looked, and saw not science and invention, but more faciful creations
not based in any reality I have seen. Our greatest triumph (as many see it) is our ability to "master" the world around us.
However it seems that success in this field, is not dependant on the manipulation of the world around it,
to learn from it, and use it as it was intended. We need to resonate with the world around us if you will.
Now we all play with signal generators and amplifiers which put out whatever frequency we tell, on what ever shape we want
and wonder why its so damn hard to ever get anything to work. HMMMMMMMMMMMM I see a trend.

After looking at so much material some people have become to call me reclusive (mainly my fiance) I start to see a GLARING
trend in overunity devices that claim success. Resonance. This has been said a thousand times over, but it must be itterated again, and designs
must be built with this specifically in mind. Even in our blessed electronics there are LC circuits which are almost inherantly free energy devices.
Free movement of electrons with only the price of resistance to pay.

Maybe we should take a step back, look at what we are creating, and think long and hard about what we are trying to accomplish. Lets not
force our way in over unity devices, lets try to work with our materials with the goal of resonance in mind.

P.S. Giantkiller, I think I have oscilloscope envy.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2007, 04:23:14 AM »
@armag

GK, and all here take resonance very seriously, read some of the earlier posts on this thread, and the later ones on the original Lord of the Ring thread, then you will be a true recluse!

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2007, 04:25:37 AM »
@armagdn03 & Acerzw,
I went to youtube and viewed my own vids. The harmonics that I posted actually come back from the server on replay and shook the house. What can I say? Is it Bose or is it Memorex?

I didn't post all my scope shots, but some of them look like the 'Bride of Frankenstein'. And sitting in the audio field at the same time? Wow. I had the right ear pointing towards the speaker when I was adjusting a freq. I heard and felt the harmonic standing wave move over my right ear, through my listening cavity and appear on the left ear while the opposite ear was always in dead air space.

Yes. The Keely page blew me away. I suggest all viewers go absorb that. It is definately the stuff dreams are made of.

--giantkiller. Back to circuit...
« Last Edit: September 26, 2007, 05:55:16 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2007, 04:28:18 AM »
@armagdn03 & Acerzw,
I went to youtube and viewed my own vids. The harmonics that I posted actually come back from the server on replay and shook the house. What can I say? Is it Bose or is it Memorex?

I didn't post all my scope shots, but some of them look like the 'Bride of Frankenstein'. And sitting in the audio field at the same time? Wow. I had the right ear pointing towards the speaker when I was adjusting a freq. I heard and felt the harmonic standing wave move over my right ear, through my listening cavity and appear on the left ear while the opposite ear was always in dead air space.

Yes. The Keely page blew me away. I suggest all viewer go absorb that. It is definately the stuff dreams are made of.

--giantkiller. Back to circuit...

I am going to start a new hard water band called 'Rogue wave'. LOL

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2007, 04:35:17 AM »
Can I play the Bass TPU,,,

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2007, 12:04:25 PM »
A new problem arose:
My power supply faded under load. Bought a newer, better one from Jameco, Jameco#:668764    Qty: 1    $164.85, 3 day ship not in stock.
The PSU was a +-12 / -5v. Some part of the regulation failed. Don't have to time repair. When just the sine wave controller hooked up supply dropped to 8v. Never saw the problem. When I hooked in the class A's the voltage dropped to +3.35.

There is a newer, better 10 foot audio TPU being built. If I had my druthers I would buy 2 more Bose acoustic radiators just for this experiment and rattle the neighborhood. 8) It would equate to the Hutchison effect but with Muzak! Wouldn't that be an elevator? Keely points this out.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2007, 12:42:04 PM »
Quick! hansvonlieven, he said the word Keely! Thats your queue to post!


LOL, Don't need to, he is quoting me

http://www.keelytech.com

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2007, 08:09:06 PM »
"The ringing of a bell in vacuo liberates as many corpuscles ...."

Using Magnetic fields reproduces the vacuum environment...
Because there is no external interfering frequencies due to the short distance between our transmitter and receiver. ;D

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2007, 09:39:01 PM »
GK why not hook up 2  12 volt batteries for now to give you the +12 and -12 volt supplies you need for the amps and sig gens. Any logic stuff running on 5 volt use a PC PSU.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2007, 10:14:42 PM »
This may be totally of base, but I was thinking off topic and I wonder what a tpu would do if you made it a little bigger then built what we could call a tesla coil secondary with ground and breakout find the resonate freq of that large coil mabey construct it so its resonate freq was that of the rouge 4 wave or one of the 3 coil freq's. I guess im saying that
a lot of energy can be created with 3 audio freq done properly, Hence Giantkiller's awesome bose expermient , and if it were possible to use something like this to excite an electrical oscilator like the secondary of a tesla coil that would be a fraction of the power needed to run a TC.  Just a note, if im completly off base im sorry i took up space cause you folks are making awsome progress and i dont mean to offend anyone. thanks

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2007, 11:11:46 PM »
OK.

@localjoe,
Great idea. There's enough crayons in the box for everybody. Pick a color and draw till your hearts content.

@all,
The latest setup is to test the standing wave and the centered rogue wave using sound. The test consists of (3) 400 watt speakers radially aligned at 120 degrees and facing towards the center. Each audio channel will have its own frequency. This will place the heterodyning effect in 3d space against matter. The waves will be controllable by frequency adjustments alone. Keely states that at 42khz water will explode. The test subjects will include balloons, styrofoam particles, and microphones. Nothing like playing for keeps.

--giantkiller. Hey, wouldn't Bose be surprised at the application. We're gonna kick some major butt on the playground of reality.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 01:23:21 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2007, 01:49:26 AM »
nice gk

looks like fun lol!!

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2007, 02:30:13 AM »
Hmmmm.....

Starting to look a bit familiar there GK!

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2007, 04:15:22 AM »
This is a call to arms!

For those of you living vicariously through those of us that have hardware all over our hands We are making a request. What is needed is a 2 channel sound generator for the pc. Something with sliders and range setters that one can change while running with 4 place decimal. This would be the tool to duplicate what Keely talks about and demo-ed. This would also be a useful tool for all of us. I repeat, a big step! Because everyone would have a tool to test with. Run it on 2 pcs and you have 3 freq heterodyning. And you'll be kicking ass with the rest of us. I shit you not! So you want to be an integral part of this mess? Write a program to do this. Pump it through a stereo. Face the speakers towards each other and blow the elastic out of your underpants! I am serious as a heart attack! I went to youtube and could not believe the Q of the sound that came back from my posted videos. Keely and Tesla both mentioned the inescapable quality from the right mix. It can kill you!

IS and I did web searches and found crap. Nothing that runs dynamic. That is the important part.

--giantkiller. Somebody respond! There are no excuses, only failures if so.