Edit
No more from me in this thread about phase change …until it shows positive test results !
Just sharing some info

 Here an image from a condensate shockwave pump
super sonic (actually was said “hypersonic “)
Utilizing “opposite”  of phase change ( collapsing steam back to water and attending shockwave )
PDX had been testing this for British naval propulsion applications
It is said research was taken private ….
(Patent https://patents.google.com/patent/US6662549)


However condensate shockwave pumps are allegedly being used in food industry ( no moving parts
Just steam injection.)


Yes there are challenges to cause directional flow …
IMO
If such a simple principle can be put to use ( As PDX did)
Too simple to not play with …even Tesla’s one way water valve could …..?


Aussiebattler
There is too much fun in this path ..let’s try to keep the fun … and ability for the “Everyman” to
Experiment ..
Yeah, definitely have to be careful… with such power !
Making heat through pressure is easy..( relatively)
In a disc ..a spiral ..a piston …etc etc
Introducing a phase change fluid ( air/water…)
1 minute mark
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkAbV-yXy0M
Incredibly small amount of water in the hot oil( one drop)
See also from same propulsion company!
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4738-fighting-fire-with-a-steam-machine/

Pardon my ignorance but I still dont see of any preposals to convert the energy of the "explosion " into useful rotational energy. Sure in a diesel engine that is done in a combustion chamber, But there is no talk of that here. It would be like letting off a fire cracker in a skyrocket - using up the available fuel

What happens when energy is in a constant state of decrease?


It must draw from the environment, yes?
Endothermic


I’m sure you have seen (at least on video) an oceanic cyclone?
Or a UFO when it recharges it’s oxygen and heat supply?
Or videos of the Repulsine?


Its not “suction” in the Venturi sense.
Its “suction” in the Dyson sense. Schauberger
Negative pressure, not lower pressure.
Negative being below the ambient.


Go to TK’s youtube channell and search for something called Anatmosphere
The properties of space change under these conditions.
the reason water swirls down a drain, is because we are in the vortex of the earth field.


It actually Gains momentum during this event vs straight gravitational acceleration over the same vertical distance.


Jet engines produce more force for the same explosion of fuel.


Gyroscopes reduce the gravitational effect


Watch a maple seed fall from its’ tree

sshhh Why do I bother answering questions?

you are thinking in terms of propulsion
what occurs is the inverse


an airplane wing lifts due to changes in pressure,
as Venturi describes


The repulsine lifts by causing a channel of negative pressure in front of it.
and pulls itself along
Its not being pushed from beneath, in fact most of the pressure is 1ATM surrounding the device.
it does not follow the rules of aeronautics
This is the same thing that occurs in the system Clem described, internally
there are two forces acting in opposite directions, with opposite force vectors.
(the forward and the reflective i would label it but Schauberger uses his own terminology)
This results in a cooperative directional rotation
the thermal energy is converted on its way out


as for me creating a schematic for you,… this is not likely to occur for at least 2 months,
as such an undertaking would require time i do not currently have.
and, of course i would have to build it so i’m not handing you a theoretical design plan.
this will require building a burner, obtaining this fuel he used,
Etc etc
Not beyond reason, but not today. Once i get my new lab set up i will probably make some small prototypes to do some tests, and work out the proper parameters
in terms of airflow, fuel-air mixture, aperture sizes, angles of curvature
and a few of the details that aren’t explicitly given to us.


This is a highly advanced technology, most of the devices that make use of this principle have not been successfully replicated.
There is a repulsine here in Austin, the company that hired Schauberger to build it has put it on display a few times. (One was the video clip i shared above)


It can be explained how Clems motor works (probably in a few more different ways of describing it if you are still confused) but building one, may be harder than we imagine, especially without proper machining. Things have been handmade in the past with similarly low tolerances but thats more of an art than just throwing some parts together.
We basically want to build a small jet engine
 (comparable analogy in terms of technical construction)


After identifying the parameters, this may be a 3d print or custom order components
not sure we can do this with just a nozzle and a pipe bender, if you know what i mean










 

Just to show that  nobody read the Rex Research on the cone theory.

http://www.rexresearch.com/clemengn/clemeng.htm

So I'll just add this false claim on the cone theory and the inventor!

When I first read about the Clem Motor I found it odd that a deal had been made with a coal company. Was there a connection with the pump? After finding the Conical Drag Pump patent, I wanted to contact the inventor Walter D. Haentjens of Barrett, Haentjens & Co., Hazleton, Pennsylvania. Otto Haentjens founded Barrett Haentjens & Co., in 1916. The business began in the coalmines of Pennsylvania with Otto Haentjens original patent on the balanced opposed impeller multi-stage volute pump. The company still supplies pumps to the coal industry. They have expanded to other markets and their pumps are installed in many industries worldwide. It's now known as Hazleton Pumps Inc., after its acquisition by The Weir Group.

I contacted Peter Haentjens, the VP/General Manager of Hazleton Pumps, by e-mail to find out if this pump had ever been put into production. He replied that they had not done anything with the patent:

One reason this is not a good pump, is the amount of thrust bearing being push outward due to the pressure. It acts like a piston when pressure is increased, causing it to lose fluid!
Even a screw pump will produce pressure on the thrust bearing for injection moldings, what make you think something much bigger would handle even higher pressure loads?

Tom

Onepower,

These are the only real photos we have. The older ones are clearly hydraulic pumps and or even hydraulic motors.

Now, to produce any hydraulic flow with pressure the basic formula is gpm*psi/1714 = hp, not including loss due to efficiency.

The claim to get 350hp no mater what size it is, would need to have a phase change that of a combustion type beyond any mechanical input driven method.

A multi stage water pump can have a design to equal the pressure on the turbine to cancel out the thrust on either side of the shaft, but hydraulics is a totally different monster.

Even hydraulic axial piston pumps, being the most efficient in today's market, have problem at high pressures. I believe the key of using cooking oil was a phase change, either a combustion type or even water inject into the 300+ deg cooking oil.

I also believed it would have to be a closed loop, due to the explosive effect of super heated cooking oil, especially if water was injected.

I have tested so many design, I have one gear pump worth thousands of dollars with unbelievable 80gpm@3200 psi. But the input power need is over 150hp.

There is no free lunch pumping fluids, unless you are planning a type of phase change to create unbelievable power output.

The real questions to asked, did the Clem engine run off cooking oil as a fuel or was something added to create a different type of phase change.

hydraulic screw pump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mY7vfOzWeU

Tom

   aussiebattler,

Same picture over a week ago, just how old is this machine part?

I would think by now you have something up and running?

Anyhow looking forward for those who have theory to test it with real prototypes soon. Time is running out....

Tom

Hi Pot
How long u bin tryin to make Clems thingy now?
Kettle

 

aussiebattler,

 I really enjoy your humor, but at the end of the day you would have to show us all a complete working prototype.

Lets look at your design:
First of all, input of power is needed. If you're planning to create any vacuum you will waste power jut to get it up to speed. Just when the water feeds it's self into the ports, then motor load will increase.

This would be the first lost of energy, as you increase speed the fluid is being force outward due to centrifugal forces and more power is lost. You won't get the velocity needed to over come these losses.

Good luck on your journey, it's going to be interesting.

Tom

Pardon me but I would not have to show you anything
What works for me works for you also
Forget about vacuum just conentrate on temp and pressure. Study my posts on "venturi effect"
As speed increases pressure at the nozzle (inside) increases. This raises temp also to high levels -~300+ (but only at the nozzles) This is in line with the laws of physics
As the pressure is released (through the nozzle) the oil gives up its heat also which converts to rotational force (also inline with the laws of physics.) As that heat loss is compensated by ambient the process continues
I hope this gives you understanding as realy it is quite simple and am surprised not many "get it"
ab