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dvy1214

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2370 on: December 03, 2014, 07:40:20 PM »
Energy isn't hiding like scared horse, it requires no leading into the human darkness. It is indeed everywhere. You can thank Einstein and Oppenheimer for screwing everything up for you and keeping the lights off.


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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2371 on: December 04, 2014, 08:52:01 PM »
The arrangement for all those interested in Lead Out Energy Research in Hong Kong.
 
1.  We shall use the storage space and the classroom of Mr. Peter Chan at Tai Po as the temporary development center.  Developers are welcome to use the facilities to develop the prototypes and discuss various ideas.  The available hours are Monday to Friday (except Tuesday Morning). 9am to 5pm.
 
2.  Once a month, there will be meetings on Sunday afternoon from 2pm until dinner.  Those interested can contribute HK$100 towards dinner.  Any over spending will be covered by the sponsoring members or organizations.  Potential Investors will also be invited.
 
3.  All information covered will be open.  Please do not share information that might be confidential.  Participants are free to post their ideas and the discussions on the Internet.  Making money is NOT the goal.  Enjoying and sharing the knowledge is the key goal. 
 
4.  As of today, we have the Chan and the Yuen Wheels for tickering (validation and improvement).  The Cheung Wheel will be added soon.  Joule thief and the resonance tank circuits are also available.
 
5.  Please email lawrencetseung@yahoo.com if you are interested in participating.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2372 on: December 05, 2014, 11:52:59 PM »
Phone call from Leo (not the real name).
 
Leo: "I have been contacted by a Venture Capital Group to check out Lead Out Energy and in particular, to validate the Ting Wheel."
 
Tseung: "When you communicate with me, all conversation will be open.  Dr. Ting may have a different arrangement."
 
Leo: "That is fine.  Just use Leo as my name.  My goal is to do a proper job."
 
Tseung: "Are you being paid to do the validation?  What are your qualifications?"
 
Leo: "I graduated at MIT in Electrical Engineering ten years ago.  I have my own company doing electrical wiring and maintenance for major construction companies.  I have an open mind and will do a thorough validation.  Yes.  My Company is receiving Consultant Fees to do this validation."
 
Tseung: "Have you read the presentation material and the information on the Internet?"
 
Leo: "Yes.  However, the information on the Internet is confusing with conflicting views.  I would like to get the information from the Inventors directly."
 
Tseung: "Let us set up a meeting next week and do things properly.  I shall post the minutes of the meetings on the Internet."

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2373 on: December 06, 2014, 12:18:12 PM »
The two files in
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1516.msg24854#msg24854
 
was sent to Leo for his evaluation.
 
They are:
Divine Revelation 2.xls
Milkovic 2 stage pendulum draft 2.xls.
 
He should have read them before the meeting.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2374 on: December 09, 2014, 11:37:02 PM »
Resonance in Joule Thief.
 
Another Divine Revelation?
 
It is easy to spot the resonance condition in a pendulum and determine when to apply the push.
 
It is not too bad to do the same for the unbalanced wheel?
 
How does one go about doing it for Pulse Wheels and Motionless systems?  How can one determine the best input at the most appropriate time.  A wrong pulse at the wrong time is like pushing the pendulum at the wrong time.
 
I moved to a new flat.  I checked my reconnected DSO and the FLEET (Forever Leadout Electromagnetic Energy Transformer) boards.  To my delight, the frequency of the output decreased after I turned off the power supply initially.  It then increased again when the frequency was about 2.38KHz.  The LED was very bright at around this frequency.   
 
Bingo.  A good condition for determining the Input votage and duration of the Pulse was found.  A circuit can be built using frequency as the control... 
 
Saving electricity is a given.  Getting OU is a possibility.  (There was a repeatable sudden brightness of the display on the DSO.)
 
An old Joule Thief board diagram with capacitor is displayed here for reference.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2375 on: December 10, 2014, 05:14:13 PM »
I broke the Chan Wheel when it fell to the floor.  It was too heavy and bulky for an old man.
 
The bearing was twisted.  I had to go back to the "No bearing" configuration.
 
I finally managed to re-create the "Milkovic effect" with an unbalanced wheel.  The comparison with a balanced wheel was also done.
 
Shall confirm that Chan wheel is OU after all necessary repairs...

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2376 on: December 11, 2014, 03:30:46 PM »
New article by Veljko Milkovic

ENERGY TURNING-POINT

By observing living beings, it is not hard to notice that almost all movement is oscillatory.
Just as the wind swings branches, many other plants bend under the force of the wind, thanks to their elasticity.
The birds fly by flapping their wings; fish are similar as they oscillate their fins and tail. When discussing the movements of people and land animals, one can also talk about oscillatory movement. A similar situation can be found when observing internal organs.
It is probably not by chance that such rational achievements exist in all living beings...

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Veljko_Milkovic_Energy_Turning-Point.pdf

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2377 on: December 12, 2014, 11:29:47 AM »
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2708.msg43684#new
 
The Chan Wheel will be discussed much more in the above thread.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2378 on: December 13, 2014, 12:46:44 AM »
Divine Revelation?
 
The two little angels said to me: “Grandpa, do not be afraid.  The Lord is with you.”
 
Now that Christmas is coming, I am preparing the Christmas Gift to the World – the Lead out or Bring in Energy Theory and Devices.
 
The Gift consists of:
 
  The horizontally pushed pendulum can increase the tension of the pendulum string.  The vertical component of the tension of the string will bring in gravitational energy.  For small angles, two parts of horizontal energy can lead out one part of vertical gravitational energy.[/li]
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  The Milkovic two stage oscillator is already an overunity device.  The amplitude of oscillation of the pendulum does not decrease when the Weight is lifted.  Energy must come from somewhere.  This somewhere is the lead out gravitational energy.[/li]
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  The Chan Wheel is essentially the Milkovic 2SO with the pendulum replaced by the unbalanced wheel.  It is easy to construct.  It can demonstrate that the unbalanced wheel can bring in gravitational energy.  Once the wheel is balanced, it will NOT bring in gravitational energy.[/li]
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  The mechanical engineers have been brainwashed to the concept of balance.  Any unbalanced system is considered “evil”.  That is probably why they never seriously looked at the unbalanced wheel.[/li]
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  The Yuen Wheel consists of two or more unbalanced wheels.  Experimenting with the size of the wheel, the magnitude and number of weights on the rim of the wheel is likely to yield the Bessler Wheel which can lead out gravitational energy to rotate for 53 days and do some mechanical work.[/li]
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  If gravitational energy can be brought in, magnetic or electromagnetic energy must be able to be brought in similarly.  We can replace the pendulum with a magnet or do the equivalent of a horizontal pendulum with magnetic fields.[/li]
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  The magnetic or electromagnetic fields can be much more powerful than the gravitational field.  We can change the polarity, the magnitude and the direction of magnetic or electromagnetic fields easily.[/li]
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  We need to focus on resonance – pushing the swing at the right time.  If we do it right, resonance can show itself as greater brightness, sharp rise in voltage or power or even physical destruction (e.g. collapsing of bridges).  [/li]
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  The likely explanation of the source of lead out energy is the Electron Motion or Electron Cloud Energy.  Chemical Energy is due to the different Electron Cloud Energy associated with different compounds of the same elements.   There is no violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy in Chemical Reactions.  There is no violation in Lead Out Energy Devices.[/li]
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   We should be able to Lead Out Energy in oscillating, vibrating or motionless flux change systems.  Working examples include the Milkovic 2SO, the Chan Wheel, the Pulse Wheels (Newman, Bedini, Wang, Tong , Ting, Laing etc.).[/li]
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   The WITTS 40K Electricity Generator is probably one of the best examples.  The QEG is learning from it.  Resonance has been achieved in multiple locations.  It is a matter of time and Grace from the Lord for these QEG devices to achieve overunity and self loop similar to the parent WITTS device.[/li]
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   The Chan Wheel will be available for others in Hong Kong to validate, improve and replicate.  It is easy to construct and multiple teams are encouraged to do so.[/li]
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  The Energy Crisis of the World is essentially over.  The oil prices will continue to drop.  They will drop even faster if and when China or USA reveals the details of the 225 HP Pulse Motor.[/li]
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  Rejoice.  The Lead Out Energy Baby is born.  It will never die from Greed, Ignorance or Trolls.[/li]
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  Blessed be the Almighyt.  He is giving FREE, NON-POLLUTING, PLENTIFUL ENERGY to the World.  The little angels will have a bright future.  Amen.  [/li]
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2379 on: December 13, 2014, 01:17:40 PM »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2380 on: December 13, 2014, 01:28:31 PM »
Phone call with Mr. Peter Chan
 
Peter: “I just came back from a holiday in Thailand.  What is the latest?”
 
Tseung: “Sorry that I broke your Chan Wheel while you were on holiday.”
 
Peter: “That is fine.  I was thinking of redesigning it.”
 
Tseung: “We can make it simple.  Just demonstrate that balanced wheel will not lift the Weight whereas the unbalanced wheel will.”
 
Peter: “That is simple.”
 
Tseung: “Please redesign using the simplest components.  Make it easy to carry and demonstrate.”
 
Peter: “I shall give it some thought.”

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2381 on: December 13, 2014, 09:15:15 PM »
New article by Veljko Milkovic

ENERGY TURNING-POINT

By observing living beings, it is not hard to notice that almost all movement is oscillatory.
Just as the wind swings branches, many other plants bend under the force of the wind, thanks to their elasticity.
The birds fly by flapping their wings; fish are similar as they oscillate their fins and tail. When discussing the movements of people and land animals, one can also talk about oscillatory movement. A similar situation can be found when observing internal organs.
It is probably not by chance that such rational achievements exist in all living beings...

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Veljko_Milkovic_Energy_Turning-Point.pdf

@Merg
 
I am sure that Milkovic and team will understand that the pulsed pendulum can bring in gravitational energy.  The lever system will bring in additional energy.  They will realize that the unbalanced wheel is better than the pendulum.  If they can bring in gravitational energy, they can also bring in magnetic or electromagneti energy.
 
They have helped to bring pullution free energy to the World.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2382 on: December 14, 2014, 01:58:24 AM »
Analysis of the Christmas Gift.
The Gift consists of:

1.   The horizontally pushed pendulum can increase the tension of the pendulum string.  The vertical component of the tension of the string will bring in gravitational energy.  For small angles, two parts of horizontal energy can lead out one part of vertical gravitational energy.

This point was first raised by Mr. Lee Cheung Kin.  The mathematical analysis was done by Lawrence Tseung.  The spreadsheet analysis is available from the following:
 
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1516.msg24854#msg24854
under Divine Revelation 2 - Lead-out gravitation energy using Milkovic 2-stage pendulum and blind Peru Scientist's Force Multiplier.
 
Human Beings have pushed the swing for thousands of years.  Nobody until Lee proposed it about 10 years ago.  (The apples were falling but until one fell of the head of Newton…)
 
The mathematics of a horizontally pushed pendulum is based on the secondary school physics of the parallelogram of forces.  The bold assumption is that the horizontal push increases the tension of the string.  The vertical component of the tension of the string is responsible in lifting the pendulum bob.  Work is done against gravity.  The energy used to do this work is NOT transferred from the horizontally supplied energy.  The energy is the lead-out or bring-in gravitational energy.
 
For small angles, two parts of horizontal energy can lead out one part of vertical gravitational energy.
 
The concept and mathematics of the pushed (pulsed) pendulum is correct.  It will withstand any scientific challenge.  Lead out energy has a sound theoretical basis or footing.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2383 on: December 14, 2014, 02:08:00 AM »
Analysis of the Christmas Gift Continued.
 
2.   The Milkovic two stage oscillator is already an overunity device.  The amplitude of oscillation of the pendulum does not decrease when the Weight is lifted.  Energy must come from somewhere.  This somewhere is the lead out gravitational energy.
 
The Milkovic 2SO is a direct experimental confirmation of the Lead Out Energy Theory.  The detailed explanation is available from the following:
 
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1516.msg24854#msg24854
 
Milkovic 2 stage pendulum draft 2.xls   
 
The youtube video by Raymond Head should be watched multiple times.  Many looked but could not see (Tseung did not see for 10 years).  The amplitude of oscillation of the pendulum did not decrease when the Weight was lifted.  This meant that no energy was transferred from the swinging pendulum.  Since energy must be conserved, the only explanation is that Gravitational Energy was brought in. 
 
Thus the Milkovic 2SO leads-out or brings-in gravitational energy under both the pushing by hand and the lifting of the Weight.  The Input Energy should be the sum of the push plus the brought in gravitational energy.  It is already an overunity device.
 
Hundreds if not thousands of Milkovic inspired 2SO systems have been built.  Many were done at top universities.  How many dared to claim that the device is Overunity???

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2384 on: December 14, 2014, 10:30:48 AM »
Not many, and the only ones who do, are wrong. There is nothing OU about those systems and you are wrong too, Lawrence. If the system is not powered, the amplitude of the swing will decrease as your external weight is lifted over and over. If the system is powered, the input power may replace the losses on a 1 to 1 basis. You have no coherent measurements to support your contentions. Any pendulum, single double or chaotic, is only a flywheel in a different configuration, converting potential energy of position to kinetic energy of motion.

For example, I tested several of Kohei Minato's motors that he himself brought to our laboratory some years ago. I used his own test equipment plus some of our own. One motor in particular had a very large heavy brass flywheel of 25 kg mass. He believed that his motor would continue to run, unpowered, while also powering a small load (an automotive brake light bulb, iirc.) And it did! Of course the motor had to be operated in powered mode for some few minutes while the flywheel _sped up_ to 2500 RPM or so. At that point the drive motor power could be disconnected, and sure enough the small bulb (perhaps 5 Watts dissipation) would light up brightly. And minutes would go by, before people got bored and went to lunch or something. However, nobody had bothered to do _very precise_ and _long term_ tachometry of the heavy flywheel, until I came along. I invite you to calculate the moment of inertia of a symmetrical disk, ten centimeters thick and 50 centimeters across, with 25 kg mass. Assume lossless bearings and no air friction if you like, and a 90 percent efficient generator setup. Now, what is the stored energy of rotation of that disk at 2500 RPM? How long will it take, powering a 5 Watt load, to slow down to 2490 RPM? Can you measure a less than one percent change in RPM with your eyeballs, or even a hand-held optical tachometer? You will fall asleep before you see that much change in the RPM of a heavy, clean flywheel on good bearings.

Now, can you point to A SINGLE ONE of any "overunity" pendulum experiments where this kind of testing approach was performed? That is, a reasonable calculation of stored energy of position/motion, and an accurate set of measurements of the critical parameters of energy storage, power dissipation by the load, and longterm plots of time vs. amplitude of swing?

I will wager a cheeseburger that you cannot.