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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2295 on: November 04, 2014, 10:59:15 PM »
Have you degreased the bearings and used a dry lube,, something like graphite?

This can reduce the frictional losses at low speeds a fair amount.

No.  Please keep posting your good suggestions.
 
The Yuen and Chan Wheel experiments taught me an important lesson.  A concept may look easy and simple on paper.  Turning that concept into reality may require super human effort.
 
The buying of old bicycle wheels appeared to be a good idea.  In realily, we could not get matching pairs easily.  The Yuen Wheel will exceed buget as we start to experiment with the 4 wheel configuration.
 
May the Lord guide and bless the Engineers.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2296 on: November 05, 2014, 05:22:33 PM »
When I was scavenging parts to build Franken Bike I found it cheaper to buy an old used bike or two than to buy just the parts I needed.

It looks like you are using a piece of all-thread for your axle,, if so I would not suggest using that since it is not always round.  Also with that, the threads themselves lead to stress cracks and provide for a nice spot for things to bend,, so pulsing the weight will flex the all-thread much more than a solid rod.

I will use either aluminum or copper tape to "shim" an undersized axle up,, if it is really close I will use Super Glue with a little talcum powered mixed in ,, or baking soda,, or anything I can find that is really fine or I will stake the axle where the bearing inner race is going to sit,, staking is taking a center punch and making a bunch of uniform indentations on the axle in the area the race will be,, the dimples in also mean the metal has been pushed up and out making the diameter a little larger.

Good luck with your build!

Thank you for your suggestions.  Tried the 4 wheel configuration.  The shaft was bent slightly.  Number of rotations increased but did not double as expected.  Shall place the wheels close together.  Two inside the frame.
Youtube video on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrVsMKG_9I
 
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 09:53:47 PM by ltseung888 »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2297 on: November 05, 2014, 09:46:45 PM »
 
I am going to provide the actual test data for all to examine and make suggestions.
 
The attached first results here were done on Oct 30, 2014 by Lawrence Tseung and Peter Chan.
 
The Frame was borrowed from Chan Wheel. A video with the helper Linda was done. It was important to have the videos because results might not always be reproducible.  The reasons include:
 
 
 
1.    The two bearing alignments were judged by eye and feel.  Slight misalignment could produce considerable friction.
 
2.    The threaded shaft did not fit the bearings exactly.
 
3.    There was detectable shaking as the wheels were unbalanced.
 
4.    The weight positions were estimated and were not accurate.
 
5.    Shifting of shaft was detected.
 
 
 
The best result was with 3 weights on Wheel A at 0, 120, 240 and 3 weights on Wheel B at 60, 180 and 300 degree positions.  The result might have been better if not for the shifting of the shaft.  Careful examination of the video showed possibility of leading out of gravitational energy.  At slow (dying) rotations, the sudden accelerations were clearly visible.
 

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2298 on: November 06, 2014, 04:23:10 PM »
video for the 4 wheels close together Yuen Wheel.
http://youtu.be/pyVcvw_uWcs
 
Note the many accelerations when the rotational speed started to slow down.  Such accelerations represented pulsing that would lead out gravitational energy.  The weights should be arranged so that the pulsings reinforce the rotation similar to pushing the swing at the right time.  We still had not mastered the technique yet.  We may reduce the number of weights and experiment more.
 
If a large wheel were used, such timing can be easier.  The energy lead-out or bring-in will be larger and the weights can be heavier.  This is the reason why Bessler went for large wheels.
 
The theory and the general direction is correct.  The engineering was still not correct.  The best number of revolutions was only 70 turns with the 4-wheel configuration.  We did not get close to the 150 revolutions when we used the Chan Wheel Frame on Oct 31.  We shall try to tune more.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2299 on: November 06, 2014, 09:18:40 PM »
We shall make our first presentation to investors this afternoon.  Attached is the planned presentation.
 
The key points we want to get across are:
1.  The Lead-out Energy Theory is not patentable.  It has been out for over 8 years.  However, many products based on it may be patentable (if not already patented).  Our goal is to benefit humanity.  The World will have abundant, easy to access and non-polluting energy.
2.  When we can continuously lead-out or bring-in external energy, the "device" can run forever.  However, that is NOT the impossible perpetual motion machine that violates the Law of Conservation of Energy.  It is the lead-out or bring-in energy machine.
3.  Many looked at the Milkovic 2 stage pendulum for years but did not see.  It clearly brings in gravitational energy during the lifting of the Weight.  The amplitude of pendulum does not decrease.
4.  The Chan Wheel clearly demonstrated Balanced Rotation will not produce the Jumping Effect of Unbalanced Wheels.
5.  The Yuen Wheel is likely to be the long lost Bessler Wheel.
6.  If we can bring-in gravitational energy, we can definitely bring-in magnetic and electromagnetic energy.  This can be confirmed by the horizontal pendulum.
7. Pulse systems are now easy to understand.  They can bring-in electromagnetic energy and self running is not only theoretically possible.  The WITTS youtube video clearly showed that.
8. Bedini, Tong, Ting, Chas Campbell wheels are theoretically sound and they lead-out Electron Cloud Energy.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 03:00:13 AM by ltseung888 »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2300 on: November 07, 2014, 10:27:06 PM »
The presentation to the Investor Group was successful.
 
 
We started with a presentation at the Office of the Investor Group. The presentation in the previous posting was used. There were many questions. One of their researchers actually studied the postings in this thread thoroughly. He was able to quote the answers from this thread and more. He made quite an impression in front of his peers.
 
 
We then visited the Office of Mr. Peter Chan.  Both the Yuen and the uncompleted Chan Wheels were shown.  The comment on Yuen Wheel was that it might be the long lost Bessler Wheel but much more work would be needed.  The engineering effort is likely to require much more than judging by eye and feel.  (I have poor eyesight and the retired Peter Chan does not score much better.)  We relied on helpers without the vigorous scientific training and sophisticated equipment.  Aligning the two bearings with minimum friction was already a big problem.
 
 
 
The focus on the uncompleted Chan Wheel was on the difference between Balanced and Unbalanced Wheel.  Unbalanced Wheel has the element of jumping.  This jumping (treated as pendulum oscillation) was the key element in leading out or bringing in gravitational energy.  We all used our hands to feel the action of the moving weight W1 when the Unbalanced Wheel was demonstrated.  The comment: “It hurts when it hits the hand.”  They were all convinced of the importance of the Pendulum Action of the Unbalanced Wheel.
 
 
We then went to the Office of Dr. Raymond Ting to see the Ting Wheel in action.  The Input was 24V DC at 2 Amps or 50 watts approximately.  The Output was a fan, a refrigerator and four 60 watt light bulbs at 240 volts AC.  The estimated Output Power was 340 watts.  That gave a COP of 6.8.  The COP would vary with the load.  Pictures were taken.  The decision from the Investor Group was to ask for a proper Business Plan and enter into the proper scientific examination process.  Dr. Ting decided to keep all information confidential so as not to jeopardize the negotiation.  Dr. Ting enlisted the help of Mr. Kevin Lee on the business side.
 
 
The job of Lawrence Tseung is now done.  Tseung will order the “kinetic perpetual toys” from Officeplayground.com – especially the serfer.  That toy has elements of pendulum, seesaw and unbalanced rotation.  The cost is less than US$2.  The pressure on further developing the Chan and Yuen Wheel was off.  They will be treated as fun projects.  They may even be given to some younger ones willing to take on the challenge.
 
 
The final comment from the Investor Group was: “We read and heard about overunity devices for years.  This is the first time we actually saw and touched one.  If the technical evaluation results are positive, you can count on our investing.”
 
The 225 HP Pulse Motor is no hoax.  Will the USA or Chinese Military release it to the General Public?
 

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2301 on: November 07, 2014, 11:23:17 PM »
ltseung888,

If you can remove all friction and air resistance your Chan Wheel should spin forever.  ;D

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2302 on: November 08, 2014, 02:38:39 AM »
ltseung888,

If you can remove all friction and air resistance your Chan Wheel should spin forever.  ;D
We are more ambitious.  We want to reproduce the Bessler Wheel.  The Chan or Yuan wheels should spin and produce some power forever.  We want to bring in gravitational energy to do that.  Now, the Ting Wheel has demonstrated that with bringing in both gravitational and magnetic energy.  It has much more power.
 
It is almost a repeat of human powered flight.  The actual  airplane flew for decades before the first successful human powered flight.  I expect the focus will now be on Pulse Motors, followed by motionless flux change motors.  The pure mechanical Wheels will be treated as toys of little practical value.
 
Long live the Pendulum and the Unbalanced Wheel!

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2303 on: November 08, 2014, 11:15:52 PM »
 Analysis of the Presentation Slides in reply 2303:

That Presentation is likely to be the one circulated in the coming weeks.  We shall wait for the Officeplayground.com toys and the official result of the evaluation of the Ting Wheel before heavy promotion.  The success of the Chan or the Yuen Wheels will be bonuses.  There will be strong possibility of other wheels joining our promotion (e.g. Laing, Wang, Tong etc.)
 
Slide 1:
The Title puts emphasis on Unbalanced Wheels.  In order to lead out or bring in gravitational or electromagnetic energy, we need some “oscillation action”.  The pulsed pendulum and the Milkovic 2 stage oscillator are known devices that will cause such “oscillation action”.  The unbalanced wheel has been ignored for centuries.  The focus brings it back to its proper place.
 
Slide 2:
This is the standard Lead out energy device slide since 2004.
 
Slide 3:
This slide highlights the “jumping” element of the Unbalanced Wheel.  This jumping is the “oscillation action”.
 
Slide 4:
This is the most important slide in terms of showing the bringing in of gravitational energy.  We must carefully show the video.  Many people looked at it for years but did not see.  This is the right time to open their eyes.  Pause for comments may be useful.
 
Slide 5:
The comparison with Pendulum and Unbalanced Wheel is the key to understanding the rest of the presentation.
 
Slide 6:
Introduce the Chan Wheel.
 
Slide 7:
The power of the Chan Wheel at present is showing the difference between Balanced Wheel and Unbalanced Wheel.  If one does not jump, one cannot bring in gravitational energy.  Making one heavier will not do it.  Jumping will.  Jumping at the right frequency is even better.
 
Slide 8:
Can the Yuen Wheel be the long lost Bessler Wheel?
 
Slide 9:
More Wheels and more Weights do not necessarily help.  They have to be placed at the right positions.  Show the Video that has the wheel rotated for over 100 turns with a gentle pull.
 
Slide 10:
The Peru (Chalkalis) Energy Multiplier is the inspiration behind the Yuen Wheel.  Show the Video.  Hammer in the concept of the Unbalanced Wheel.
 
Slide 11:
This is the link to bringing in magnetic or electromagnetic energy.  Spend time or pause until the concept sinks in.
 
Slide 12:
The link to the various Pulse Motors is firmly established.  These Pulse Motors bring in magnetic or electromagnetic energy that can be hundreds or thousands times the gravitational energy.  That makes success of the Chan or Yuen Wheel unnecessary.
 
Slide 13:
Discuss the various Pulse Motors.  Bedini Wheel is a good candidate as much information is available on the Internet.
 
Slide 14:
The 225 HP Pulse Motor was the incentive energy behind the Lee and Tseung Efforts.  That Motor and the subsequent action of the USA and Chinese Governments convinced Lee and Tseung that their theory is correct beyond any shadow of doubt.
 
Slide 15:
The Tong Wheel was the first attempt to simulate one slice of the 225 HP Pulse Motor.  The Output was in watts and was not convincing to the average scientists.  But it pointed in the right direction.  The second generation that can generate one HP is likely to be the demonstration prototype.
 
Slide 16:
The Ting Wheel is now the focus of Investors.  It is undergoing vigorous scientific investigation by potential Investors.  The principle is clear.  The demonstration is convincing.  The Investors have seen and touched it.  Their technical guys will confirm that it is no hoax.
 
Slide 17:
It is always good to have other inventions to confirm the theory.  The WITTS Generator is a good prototype to show.  Make sure the audience see that video  (especially if they are not in Hong Kong and cannot access the Ting Wheel).
 
Slide 18:
The concept of starting a small motor to lead out energy to drive a bigger generator/motor and then let the bigger motor take over totally is no longer a dream.  The Chas Campbell Device and the WITTS device are working examples.
 
Slide 19:
Review of the Lee-Tseung Lead Out Energy Theory using the pulsed (horizontally pulled) pendulum.
 
Slide 20:
Review of the Milkovic 2 Stage Pendulum.  By now, the participants should have no doubts that it does bring in gravitational energy at the moment of lifting the weight W1.
 
Slide 21:
Review of the Energy Multiplier.  It was not multiplying energy.  It was bringing in gravitational or electromagnetic energy.
 
Slide 22:
Can the Yuen Wheel be the long lost Bessler Wheel?  (Tseung is willing to give the present sets of Yuen Wheels for other inventors in Hong Kong to further study and improve.)
 
Slide 23:
Thank you to another Engineer who owned the Officeplayground.com toy at one time.  He told us that the less than US$2 toy already had elements of pendulum, seesaw and rotation.  It may be leading out gravitational energy already.  The video was convincing.  Such toys are easy to carry and can be given as gifts to potential investors.
 
Slide 24:
That completes the Lee-Tseung Theory.  The leading out of magnetic or electromagnetic energy is the leading out of Electron Cloud Energy.  That will not violate any Laws of Physics.  With theory and working prototypes, the Lead Out Energy Systems will see day night.  They will benefit the entire human race.
 
Hopefully, anyone can use the presentation slides effectively.  Amen.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2304 on: November 09, 2014, 10:51:58 AM »
The Taiwan device (QEG) Quantum Energy Generator (Fix the World) fixtheworldproject.org
 
http://revolution-green.com/quantum-energy-generator-qeg-3-hopegirl-video/
 
They got the information from Timothy Thrapp of WITTS and improved it.  They are "giving" the knowledge freely to the World.  The following youtube is worth watching multiple times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJKE5DJRMFQ

They achieved resonance in the first video which means the lead out energy is greatly increased.  Push the swing at the right time or jump up and down at the right frequency.  The Tong or Ting Wheels have not achieved that yet.  Instead of the pulsing from an unbalanced wheel, they use a tank circuit to provide the resonance pulsing.  There is much less physical vibration.

 
The 225 HP Pulse Motor is no hoax.  Large amount of power is possible.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2305 on: November 09, 2014, 11:38:48 PM »
QEG Germany video
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVFMv4A_Rbs
 
In that video, it stated that over 1,000 Chinese Engineers are working on it.  The Lee-Tseung Lead out Energy Theory was presented at Tsinghua University (MIT of China) in 2006. 
 
The rumor was that the 225 HP Pulse Motor had been tried out on tanks etc.  Will the QEG with no patent rights be mass produced in China?  Or will it be the Wang, Tong or Ting Wheels?
 

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« Reply #2306 on: November 10, 2014, 06:09:58 AM »
 http://www.rarenergia.com.br/

We will build in Porto Alegre, at Av. Patria, 195 - a power generator that started by a mechanic system, and exclusively powered by the gravity force.

 It will be the first equipment with this technology in the world.

 We have a small machine for experience and testing in our headquarter at Av. Pedro Ivo,933. The mechanic system was created under a special conception, to pick up and take the energy contained in the planet gravity, at any moment and place, without pollution or heat. Technology was completely developed by our Company and consists in a continuos movement with some extra energy that can be taken, in a continuous and perpetual mechanic movement. This equipment is similar to a combustion engine, where a set of wheights represent the fuel and pistons that activate assemblies connected to a crankshaft. Another similar equipment will be built in the U.S.A. at the Incobrasa  Industries Ltd plant, a Company of the group, located in Gilman, IL. Both equipment are demonstration models with capacity to generate 30 KW, and will be ready in the middle of the next year. The technique allows the building of great power generators.

RAR Energia Ltda.
 
Our Chan and Yuen Wheels cost at most a few hundred US dollars.  The right decision may be to buy the officeplayground.com toy for a few US Dollars.  The Theory is already clearly explained.  Why waste extra effort and resources?

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« Reply #2307 on: November 10, 2014, 09:38:08 AM »
As expected, my computer was hacked and everything was gone.  fortunately, I backed up every important post.
 
For now, any email from me is suspect.
 
I shall check whether the posts here are really from me. 
 
God Bless,
 
Lawrence Tseung

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« Reply #2308 on: November 10, 2014, 01:53:24 PM »
An actual magnetic perpetual motion toy from China:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsGoTLGPEI0
 

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« Reply #2309 on: November 10, 2014, 09:56:41 PM »
        Tasks to be done by the Tong or Ting Wheel developers now that Investors are interested.
 
1.  Confirmation of Overunity.  This can be done by standard meters, oscilloscopes or calorimeters.  This is the first job of the technical experts from the Investors.  If this is not confirmed, nothing will happen.   From what I have seen, the Output is in hundreds or thousands of watts while the Input is in tens of watts.  This should not post a problem.
 
2.  Resonance hunting similar to the Quantum Energy Generator.  The Pulse Circuits and the arrangement of the magnets and coils are not theoretically determined.  They were chosen after much experimentation.  The QEG showed that resonance occurred at around 400 hertz with their configuration.  The energy output at resonance is much higher and the device is targeted to use such energy.  The Oscilloscope should help in the resonance hunting.
 
3 Involvement of the Academics.  The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Energy is out.  The many posts in this thread by ltseung888 should be thoroughly examined by the top Universities especially when Overunity is confirmed.  The QEG is forcing the academics to re-examine their teachings.  They may come out with another new theory but the Lee-Tseung Theory is already available for confirmation.
 
4.  Addition of the Unbalanced Wheel.  The use of an Unbalanced Wheel as a Flywheel will greatly increase the torque but it will also greatly increase the shaking as Dr. Ting experienced.  This must be done carefully as safety is of primary concern in a consumer environment.  If electronic pulsing can do the job, we should avoid physical pulsing or shaking.  For academic research, this is not a problem.

5.  The first product can be a 5KW unit for Asian and European homes.  US homes can buy two units.  Aim for mass production to reduce costs.  License to other Companies and get royalties.
 
6.  The second product can be a battery recharger for electric cars.  The electric cars will never need to recharge their batteries at charging stations.  If the USA and Chinese Military are willing, they may release the 225 HP Pulse Motor so that the electric cars will be much more efficient with fewer batteries.
 
7.  The promotion effort is likely to involve Governments.  This is a paradigm shift technology that will affect the future of all Nations.  Hong Kong is very special in that it is relatively free – the students are allowed to occupy Central for weeks.  The theory and some products are produced in Hong Kong.  Hong Kong can easily be turned into a “Mecca” of Lead Out Energy Machines.

8.  Making Money.  The easiest way is to print money as practiced by USA, Japan, China and many other Governments.  The Lead Out Energy Devices should be used to benefit all Humanity.  They should not be vehicles to make the rich richer (and the poor poorer).  Thus the goal is to produce quality products with the necessary safety.  It can be compared to opening restaurants – there can be many different styles to suit all tastes.  There should not be patent disputes or lawsuits to hinder the introduction of such technology.  May the best “restaurants” serve more customers.

God Bless.
 
Lawrence Tseung (working from a backup computer)