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nathan97

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #690 on: July 27, 2014, 02:46:07 PM »
Both copper rings are a complete joined loop,and both copper rings are the negative potential-as stated in the video.
Quote: Also, do you have a change to excite the copper rings with pulsed current ?
 Not sure what you mean there.

Lol, a typo: I meant "do you have a chance to apply pulsed signals to the rings" it would be intersting to see the effect of dielectric inertial plane stress and relaxation from pulsed input.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #691 on: July 27, 2014, 04:39:20 PM »

    He should leave that shithole.   ;D
Eh yes and no.


http://www.overunity.com/13925/toroidal-coils/  Here's something I was playing with a while ago.  Got this kacher style oscillator to work with 2 24 turn coils... should go back to just one I suppose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kchVZZOvrcs some musings about charged particles and magnetic fields; inspired by toroflux.  Would some oppositely wound keyring models...

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #692 on: July 27, 2014, 04:51:09 PM »
In this test,i have used a ring magnet from a speaker. Here we can see opposite spins,even though we dont change the voltage polarity,or the magnetic fields.

I have also found that it is the magnetic field that turns my camera off-if i get to close to the magnet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCA0rPiS5w&list=UUsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w




On the side facing you, the rotation is the same direction.
On opposing sides the rotation is the opposite direction.
If you marked the inside on the side that faces you, the tilt would be in the same direction and the outside side facing you.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #693 on: July 27, 2014, 05:04:51 PM »
Theoria:

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What day shift son?

I guess that you are too young to get the reference, daddy.  But the real point is that your "20 years of studying magnetism" seemingly is bearing very little fruit.  Rather, it's more like you have mastered the art of creating gobbledygook by stringing together strange technical-sounding words and not much more than that.

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I have about 30+ more videos to make and maybe 2 more editions to make.    CANT explain, and HAVEN'T YET explained are 2 diff. things.    However polarity reversal in a simplex FERRITE magnet (1" sphere in that video) is rather simplex.

No way.  You filled up those 18 minutes by doing the same thing over and over and over.  You had ample time to explain to your viewers what was going on.  My presumption is that you didn't explain what was going on because you can't.  You are a kid playing with magnets in a sandbox, no more than that.

Me:  <<< Theoria assumes it takes about one second to reverse the polarity.  Theoria, did you know that you should be able to listen to the polarity reversal happening in real time?  Do that and you will have a much better idea of how long it takes. I wonder how you would do that? >>>

Your response:  <<< Field phones and and electromagnet.........I know how, thanks for the attempt to "stump me".   Nice one >>>

Yes I was trying to stump you.  Although it's very hard these days because of Google.  You stated "field phones and electromagnet."  What does that mean?  You seem to be saying, "I can go to Radio Shack and buy stuff."   I am not interested in that kind of answer.  I am asking you to explain the underlying process for listening to the magnetic domains flipping and then explain what the basic building blocks are that would allow you to do it.  I want a real answer from you.

Likewise, I asked you why the circular dark region exists on the monitor when you bring the magnet up close and you have failed to answer the question.  You throw a small word salad at that question and call it "the answer."  I am asking you for the real answer, the real explanation for why the dark region appears on the monitor.  That's one that's probably not so easy to Google and that means you have to show us your own brains in action.  No copy-pasting of some BS word salad - I want to hear the real explanation for why this happens.  I strongly suspect that you are unable to offer up an explanation, which would just confirm what I have been saying about you.

MIleHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #694 on: July 27, 2014, 05:14:54 PM »
Time for the "big reveal" about Ken:

Me: <<< The other thing I noticed is that there is never any care taken when removing the small magnet from the surface of the neo magnet.  It something one would think you should do if you knew what you were doing.>>>

Ken:  <<< I have 2 of those $800  6"  Neos,  I dont give a shit about cracking the plating on it.   Ill buy another, who cares.
been busy experimenting,    what about you?  Gum flapping? >>>

Ha ha ha.... that says it all.  Poor Kenny thinks I am talking about cracking the plating on the neo magnet.  That just proves that after 20 years of self-schooling about magnetism, he still is more clueless than knowledgeable.   The glass is much less than half full.

MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #695 on: July 27, 2014, 05:36:58 PM »
Time for the "big reveal" about Ken:

Me: <<< The other thing I noticed is that there is never any care taken when removing the small magnet from the surface of the neo magnet.  It something one would think you should do if you knew what you were doing.>>>

Ken:  <<< I have 2 of those $800  6"  Neos,  I dont give a shit about cracking the plating on it.   Ill buy another, who cares.
been busy experimenting,    what about you?  Gum flapping? >>>

Ha ha ha.... that says it all.  Poor Kenny thinks I am talking about cracking the plating on the neo magnet.  That just proves that after 20 years of self-schooling about magnetism, he still is more clueless than knowledgeable.   The glass is much less than half full.

MileHigh

It's hilarious isn't it? Chess champion, twenty years of studying magnets, Russel and Dollard.... everything we know about magnetism and electricity in general is wrong!

Yet people using "our" model and the grand set of constructs known as Quantum Electrodynamics can design things like high density disk drives for personal computers, they can navigate semiautonomous robot spacecraft and soft-land them on Titan, they can implant electronic devices in the cochleas of deaf persons and restore their hearing. They can even explain color CRTs and what happens when you magnetize them with an external magnet. What can people design and perform using the incoherent gobbledegook found in Apoptosis's insulting rants and silly claims? Rodin coils that produce pretty patterns on magnet viewing film (which he doesn't even understand)?  Yeah, that will get you to Europa, cure your warts and keep you warm in winter. Right.






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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #696 on: July 27, 2014, 05:45:24 PM »



re: Theoria Apophasis part 20

SirZerp Channel list kinda...  He did lots of playing with a ferrocell too; but had 2 color LEDs... alternating color LEDs 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitgJpy3FWo&list=UUSR-vy_Ue0raYCGMwtw4uqg


Really This seems to be dependant on the direction of the lights... since they're arranges as point sources pointed inward, you get a constant reflection equidistant from each LED... and each being offset forms a separate arc.  Would be interesting to see a row of Linear lights, and maybe 2   X/Y or 3 - a equidistant triangle instead of a circle.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #697 on: July 27, 2014, 06:31:40 PM »
In this test,i have used a ring magnet from a speaker. Here we can see opposite spins,even though we dont change the voltage polarity,or the magnetic fields.

I have also found that it is the magnetic field that turns my camera off-if i get to close to the magnet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCA0rPiS5w&list=UUsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

Tinman,

This video appears to be in agreement with the right hand rule.

Using the right hand rule, one would expect the rotation observed on the ID to be opposite to that observed on the OD.

The absolute directions observed for both ID and OD are a bit puzzling.  Most likely this is because we are dealing with ion flow as opposed to electron flow.

However, it may be helpful/interesting if you could verify that any flow or motion of the liquid itself is in the same direction as the bubbles in the immediate vicinity of the magnet.  Rather than pollute your tank with ink or dye, you might try making a wand using small diameter wooden or plastic dowel with a thread attached to the end.  The thread will act as a small flag and by placing it in various locations, you can map out any flow/direction of the electrolyte. 

PW

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #698 on: July 27, 2014, 10:37:16 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kchVZZOvrcs some musings about charged particles and magnetic fields; inspired by toroflux.  Would some oppositely wound keyring models...


Looks just like a toroflux!!!!


EVERYONE HAS TO BUY A TOROFLUX    ;D  ;)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GloFX-Toroflux-Interactive-Sculpture-Toy-Kids-Stuff-Rave-Light-Show-Unisex-/201134561996?pt=US_LED_Light_Key_Chains&hash=item2ed48ddacc


watch em work:::::


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfDi89Hj0QA


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #699 on: July 27, 2014, 10:47:40 PM »
seemingly is bearing very little fruit.

Ohh, you mean the mind blowing inventions I have in the background??   Or the book with 400,000 downloads in under 6 weeks.
Or, that, off the scene, some serious heavyweights are buzzing my phone like mad???

Yeah, nothing is going on.    Pedal that stuff down the pike.

I see that you're most pissed (from earlier comments of yours) that Im NOT SELLING ANYTHING,    NOR seek your approval on ANYTHING        LoL


No way.  You filled up those 18 minutes by doing the same thing over and over and over.  You had ample time to explain to your viewers what was going on.  My presumption is that you didn't explain what was going on because you can't.  You are a kid playing with magnets in a sandbox, no more than that.

Kids dont write books, and invent amazing things that impress even crusty ole inventors.    Pedal it down the road.


Yes I was trying to stump you.  Although it's very hard these days because of Google.  You stated "field phones and electromagnet."  What does that mean?  You seem to be saying, "I can go to Radio Shack and buy stuff."   I am not interested in that kind of answer.  I am asking you to explain the underlying process for listening to the magnetic domains flipping and then explain what the basic building blocks are that would allow you to do it.  I want a real answer from you.

No, you wanna play games and engage in Sophistry, too bad for you, Im an expert in the Greek method and their debate dialectic (διαλεκτική).    (thats dialectic,  NOT dielectric)  ROFL


Likewise, I asked you why the circular dark region exists on the monitor when you bring the magnet up close and you have failed to answer the question.  You throw a small word salad at that question and call it "the answer."  I am asking you for the real answer, the real explanation for why the dark region appears on the monitor.  That's one that's probably not so easy to Google and that means you have to show us your own brains in action.  No copy-pasting of some BS word salad - I want to hear the real explanation for why this happens.  I strongly suspect that you are unable to offer up an explanation, which would just confirm what I have been saying about you.

Nope, I answered the question, you just did'nt "approve" of the answer,  big difference son.



There isnt a sophistic tactic you HAVE, that I did'nt master 20 years ago debating Platonic metaphysics and Monistic ontology.   ;D   ;D

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #700 on: July 27, 2014, 10:53:15 PM »


re: Theoria Apophasis part 20

SirZerp Channel list kinda...  He did lots of playing with a ferrocell too; but had 2 color LEDs... alternating color LEDs 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitgJpy3FWo&list=UUSR-vy_Ue0raYCGMwtw4uqg


Really This seems to be dependant on the direction of the lights... since they're arranges as point sources pointed inward, you get a constant reflection equidistant from each LED... and each being offset forms a separate arc.  Would be interesting to see a row of Linear lights, and maybe 2   X/Y or 3 - a equidistant triangle instead of a circle.



Ohhhhh, I know all about him and his youtube vids and hes a great critter / person.      ;D ;)


Yes, I have COLORED LEDS,  currently Im using only WHITE LIGHT ringed LEDS.

I just got done building one and putting it together

There are other tricks too, mirrors, and using a black paper between, and other things I will make videos on.

At steep angles, you can see the centrifugal in 3D.......etc.


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #701 on: July 27, 2014, 11:02:40 PM »
Tinman,

This video appears to be in agreement with the right hand rule.

Using the right hand rule, one would expect the rotation observed on the ID to be opposite to that observed on the OD.

The absolute directions observed for both ID and OD are a bit puzzling.  Most likely this is because we are dealing with ion flow as opposed to electron flow.

However, it may be helpful/interesting if you could verify that any flow or motion of the liquid itself is in the same direction as the bubbles in the immediate vicinity of the magnet.  Rather than pollute your tank with ink or dye, you might try making a wand using small diameter wooden or plastic dowel with a thread attached to the end.  The thread will act as a small flag and by placing it in various locations, you can map out any flow/direction of the electrolyte. 

PW
Hi PW.
Could you take the time,and draw a sketch showing how the right hand rule would be in my video setup,using the polarities i have used.Also,if an ion flow is the cause,then why the different direction,even though both magnetic and electrical polarities are the same in each test.

Brad

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #702 on: July 27, 2014, 11:12:18 PM »
Ken:

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No, you wanna play games and engage in Sophistry

No I don't.  My nature is to ask a straight question and expect a straight answer.

How can you "listen" to the small magnet changing polarity?

Why is there a black region on the monitor?

If you can't answer those straightforward questions with straightforward answers that make sense that people can understand then the logical conclusion is that you are being evasive because you don't know the answers.  If you don't know the answers then your claims about studying magnetism are a sham because you should know the answers.  If you can't answer some basic straightforward questions why should we give credence to your other claims?

It's a refreshing difference from your thread on the Energetic Forum, isn't it?  People here are challenging you to establish credibility and back up your claims as opposed to just blindly agreeing with you and congratulating you like sheep.

MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #703 on: July 27, 2014, 11:33:23 PM »
Hi PW.
Could you take the time,and draw a sketch showing how the right hand rule would be in my video setup,using the polarities i have used.Also,if an ion flow is the cause,then why the different direction,even though both magnetic and electrical polarities are the same in each test.

Brad

Tinman,

Take a look at this wiki, about half way down the page to "Direction of Force"

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field

If you apply the rule as given, you will indeed see that it predicts opposite spins on the OD versus ID.  However, it appears to me that both directions are reversed from what the rule would indicate.

You had the south pole up in those tests, correct? (and your compass still point north correctly?  We have seen compasses ruined from being around magnets.  Just asking...) 

If you would, please confirm that the fluid motion is in the same direction as the bubbles using the "flag" idea mentioned.

PW

ADDED:  You need not bother to video the flag test.  If you say the fluid is indeed moving in concert with the bubbles, that's good enough for me.  But, make sure to check the flow right at the edge of the magnet where H2 is being generated.

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #704 on: July 27, 2014, 11:41:19 PM »
It's a refreshing difference from your thread on the Energetic Forum, isn't it?  People here are challenging you to establish credibility


What on earth makes you THINK I want any CRED from you ( or anyone for that matter)?          How hubristic!!!
Ive got results, new inventions, and far more.     You have your flapping gums.

Only fools try to convince others of things they know is correct and prove,    only supreme fools try to convince sophistic skeptics of anything.
Your skepticism alone, and continued rebuke is EXACTLY what I want.   


I would only question myself as being wholly WRONG, if I actually said something people like you AGREED with.   ;D  ;D


I havent seen this much sophistry, logomachy, and pseudo-intellectual loaded questions since I was debating the translation of the Sutta Nipata with Thera B. Bodhi

 ;D ;D


“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”  ― Richard Buckminster Fuller


Quantum Qwackery, your Particle-Mysticism is a lie perpetuated by academia.    Its nothing but Greek Atomism.




I will answer ALL YOUR QUESTIONS,.........soon as you define  ONE WORD:             FIELD     LoL  ;D  ;D

Go invent something and have a cookie.    Better yet, go write a book 'proving' mine is wrong.  ROFL