There is a vortex ! But first the so called qualified statement !All science is progressive ! Second I have a zero point magnetic field vortex, AND ITS NOT IN A BOOK OR UNIVERSITY ... Please don't question peoples descriptions and involve personal petty politics, if the picture does not fit your frame of reference try to look at how others see things you will be surprised what you will learn that is not in the book .... Also it is obvious that there is a level of intuition one is being drawn to a new perspective and that one will need to keep looking but he is close ...

If you all keep getting stuck with a limited old fashioned and out of date system of knowledge than let go and open to the new world of quantum reality and any half backed quantum mechanic will agree that anything is possible at any time ... Try and work out how miracles work as a physical system ! Also cause and reaction may not always lead to a logical answer ! I have seen objects materialise and dematerialise something to do with a ghost or I call it the ghost field and it always starts with a magnetic vortex ...

To pigeon hole the dielectric effect with a magnet and not include gravity is a big error ! Some systems will not work in zero gravity like a bucket of water with a hole in it, find the connection to gravity than you will think again ... I like the opening of this thread its got no personal gain to it and is openly honest with its view but needs my magnetic vortex to help it along ! Do you have one ?? NO !

My question to all is what is the connection between a magnet the dielectric effect and gravity, don't bother with Maxwell's equations he never new that a graviton was possible let alone a neutrino that can travel above light speed ! So lets just look closer at a magnetic vortex, that to me is an oscillating  magnetic field without a spinning magnet, just the field will do for now so hold the magnet down .....

When AND IF you are ready I will give you a one directional magnetic flow of force without the magnetic spinning !!! CAN YOU DO THAT ? ITS NOT IN A BOOK, ITS IN MY LAB ..... Also I will teach you how to set up a magnetic vortex using the earths magnetic field  but if you don't have any ferrite magnets forget it, neo is just to dam tight so you need to loosen up the field hahahah a bit like your personal petty politics ..

Lets start again and help up date the book with the real macoy !!!!!!!!!!!!! But no doubt you are all so entrenched in your books and out of date academic studies that you are to dam frightened to go that one steep further and finally become free from the rot ... MAGNETIC VORTEX IS GO !!! COUNTDOWN TO LAUNCH HAS STARTED OOOOPS THAT MEANS A FLYING MAGNET, OH SORRY THATS A BIT TO MUCH FOR YOU AT THIS POINT HAHAHAHAH .......

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Ken:

Okay, so you are admitting that you can't answer those two basic questions to demonstrate to the readers that you possess a basic competency in magnetism.  So this whole "Realm of Theoria and his Big Fish Story" is all just a classic "big splash" onto the "scene" with no substance at all.

There used to be a thread on the Energetic Forum called "Free Energy at Last - Step by Step, Must See."  It was a project by "Imhotep" and all it was was rewiring a computer fan motor into a pulse motor.  Nothing to do with free energy, NADA.  When I asked him some questions all that I got was some blank stares.  Imhotep was clueless, all that he did was show how to rewire a computer fan motor - no free energy in sight.  Then he faded away because he had nothing more to offer.  But he got a big following, that's for sure.  A big following left holding an empty bag.  I predict something similar will happen with you.

Back to the old, "What is a field?" argument I see.  That is pure sophistry on your part, and the pot calling the kettle black.  You are trying to hide and change the subject, but you can't hide.  People are reading this thread and there is nowhere for you to go.

QUESTION:  How can you "listen" to the magnet changing polarity?

ANSWER:  You wrap a coil around the axis of the magnet.  When individual magnetic domains flip you will get a small amount of EMF generated in the coil because of the net change in magnetic flux with respect to time.  Each magnetic domain flipping will create a "tick" and when lots of domains flip at the same time you should get a sound similar to a Geiger counter.  So you connect the output of the coil to an amplifier and connect the amplifier output to a speaker.

QUESTION:  Why do you see a circular black void when the magnet is close to the CRT monitor?

ANSWER:  For certain positions of the electron beam, it is cutting across strong lines of the magnetic field from the magnet.  That causes the electron beam to take a spiral path.  When the field is strong enough and the geometry between the toroidal magnetic field from the magnet and the electron beam is just right, the electron beam will spiral around and end up striking the phosphor several inches away from where it would normally strike the phosphor.  The net result from this is that the magnet can create a void on the monitor because the electron beam that was supposed to strike the void was induced to spiral away and strike somewhere else because of the strong Lorentz forces at play.

So, you see that, Kenny?  Two basic basic questions about magnetism that you were unable to answer.  Don't go crying in the corner or try making your feeble "fields" play.

You do not understand the basic fundamentals of magnetism because you are unable to answer some simple questions about magnetism.  Kenny the emperor-wannabe has no clothes.

MileHigh

Ken:

Okay, so you are admitting that you can't answer those two basic questions to demonstrate to the readers that you possess a basic competency in magnetism.  So this whole "Realm of Theoria and his Big Fish Story" is all just a classic "big splash" onto the "scene" with no substance at all.

There used to be a thread on the Energetic Forum called "Free Energy at Last - Step by Step, Must See."  It was a project by "Imhotep" and all it was was rewiring a computer fan motor into a pulse motor.  Nothing to do with free energy, NADA.  When I asked him some questions all that I got was some blank stares.  Imhotep was clueless, all that he did was show how to rewire a computer fan motor - no free energy in sight.  Then he faded away because he had nothing more to offer.  But he got a big following, that's for sure.  A big following left holding an empty bag.  I predict something similar will happen with you.

Back to the old, "What is a field?" argument I see.  That is pure sophistry on your part, and the pot calling the kettle black.  You are trying to hide and change the subject, but you can't hide.  People are reading this thread and there is nowhere for you to go.

QUESTION:  How can you "listen" to the magnet changing polarity?

ANSWER:  You wrap a coil around the axis of the magnet.  When individual magnetic domains flip you will get a small amount of EMF generated in the coil because of the net change in magnetic flux with respect to time.  Each magnetic domain flipping will create a "tick" and when lots of domains flip at the same time you should get a sound similar to a Geiger counter.  So you connect the output of the coil to an amplifier and connect the amplifier output to a speaker.

But even more important than the Barkhausen phenomenon itself, is that it is PREDICTED and its parameters can be CALCULATED according to conventional QED.

QUESTION:  Why do you see a circular black void when the magnet is close to the CRT monitor?

ANSWER:  For certain positions of the electron beam, it is cutting across strong lines of the magnetic field from the magnet.  That causes the electron beam to take a spiral path.  When the field is strong enough and the geometry between the toroidal magnetic field from the magnet and the electron beam is just right, the electron beam will spiral around and end up striking the phosphor several inches away from where it would normally strike the phosphor.  The net result from this is that the magnet can create a void on the monitor because the electron beam that was supposed to strike the void was induced to spiral away and strike somewhere else because of the strong Lorentz forces at play.

Again, conventional electronics engineering science can not only design the CRT in the first place but PREDICT exactly how it will behave under a wide range of conditions. It can even precisely _calculate_ just where those deflected beams will actually land, predict the Dark Zone to tell you precisely how big and what outline it will have, for different applications of the external field. Note this well: It matters NOT if you can come up with some definition of what a "field" actually IS (it is a map) as long as your understanding of its _characteristics_ is good enough to allow you to _engineer_ with it. Conventional QED does impart that ability. The nonsense Apoptosis spouts does not.

So, you see that, Kenny?  Two basic basic questions about magnetism that you were unable to answer.  Don't go crying in the corner or try making your feeble "fields" play.

You do not understand the basic fundamentals of magnetism because you are unable to answer some simple questions about magnetism.  Kenny the emperor-wannabe has no clothes.

MileHigh

Ken:
MileHigh

I loved that long rant , it was

A: a strawman fallacy  from hell itself

B: a pathetic droll of logomachy




Whats a FIELD again?    I asked you that 15 pages ago.     What is it?

See, you cannot say what a field is, proving you know nothing.


That fallacy works both ways  SON      



never debate a hardcore Platonist son     

Stop the academic pea brains spilling out ! Its a vacuum but not as Maxwell wanted it to be ! FUNDIMENTAL REALITY DETERMINS NO GRAVITY NO SPIN ! Maxwell never included the graviton and one must add that. One effect can have a multiple of cause and reaction in such a quantum state meaning there could exist a vortex but not one that can be measured directly by an O S  ! Also an O S can not determine the wave function of bosons that's why they built CERN ... HAHAHA I WILL CONFIRM THAT A VORTEX COULD PLAY A ROLE BUT YOU CAN MESSURE IT HAHAHAHAHAHAH ..... Also the values of kinetic measurements and a vacuum offer the same output of force . This is a matter of particle physics not electrical engineering !!!! Don't spout to much about the so called electron in this case and especially one stuck in a spiralling beam as the entropy of the system is isolated to the O D of the magnetic ... SO BIG BRAINS BOSONS COULD VORTEX IN THE SYSTEM . Electrons must and will return to there source concluded by the frank herz experiment's for quantised states of the electron and by the way there a pentatonic energy set of harmonics, SO PLEASE NO MORE MAXWELL HES HALF RIGHT AS ARE THE REST OF YOU ..... THE MISSING PART OF THE PHYSICS IS IN GRAVITY ENTROPY AND THE BOSONS .... two are in a vortex gravity and the bosons !!!

The vacuum is not in question and I firmly support a vortex component as the missing equation that must now be excepted .... Please stick to particle physics or go and spin the O S .... Is there a free energy missing link yes but that's dark matter and who knows what that is doing

CHECK MATE !!!!!!

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Read DEEPER into the full detail that no electrical engineer can work out ! THROW THAT DAM O S in the bin it looks pretty but its flawed with blind spots it cant see bosons and it cant see the 2.2 trillion X Y particles that electrons are made off the same with MAXWELL !!! COME INTO THE YEAR 2014 !!! hahah Your talking to me now I am a master in particle physics and quantum mechanics don't rock my boat with half measure or idiotic academic acclaim . All those stupid books written by wana be scientist electrical engineers hahahahahahahahah how wrong you are !!!

KEEP PLAYING WITH RESONENCE GENERATORS THAN ADD A MODULATOR TO PLAY WITH SOONER OR LATTER YOU WILL ALINE A COHERENT FIELD WITH YOUR NEURONS AND SHORT OUT YOUR DUMB BRAIN HAHAHAHAH YOU STUPID IDIOTS ...... You attack someone that had the courage to question the  out of date physics that you guys keep throwing up and than all the insults how dear you come on take me on .... VORTEX RULES APLY !!!! let me also inform you an electron is a vortex also at - 273k and I do mean - 273k not very close to -273k a magnetic field is a vortex made from a super state string of flux donated by its atomic mass .... Also the space between electrons will have periods of absolute -273k as there will be no other particle there including radiation  or bosons or any known particle in this universe not even a neutrino ...

You state a path of electrons spiralling into the centre sorry the entropy is confined to the O D of the magnet in the first second of charge !! What that means is than there is no flow of electrons spiralling into the centre if they were they would collide with abundant free electrons and entropy would be coherent over the surface of the mass .. ITS NOT !!! SO NO SPIRIALING PATH OF ELECTRONS !!! IMPOSSIBLE !!!

THE DIALECTRIC INERTISHA THAT IS SAID TO ACOUR HAS SOME REALITY TO IT AT 10% OF THE TOTTAL EQUATION !! Than the vacuum at 80% of the equation that still leaves 10% that can not be measured by a direct measurements and will need boson forecasting but that will also include the speed of the earths excel oration and its relative resistance over space time curvature ! Remember all particles have spin and planets that creates sub atomic particle resistance in the gravitational field of the earth ... The last 10% of the total number for the exchange of energies will require a lot of impossible measurements and I do mean IMPOSSIBLE . HOW MANY NEUTRINOS WILL HIT THE MASS AT WHAT RATE AND SPEED PLEASE INCLUDE INTERSTELA RADIATION AND ALPHA PARTICLE INTERACTIONS .....  Dark matter will also add energy where there is a magnetic field and this is why there is a vacuum that makes it all happen . But energy conservation must win the day on a free spinning mass and will balance out the end results by any means possible vacuum vortec dialectric effects entropy gravity particle coherence ect ect ect .... Now let me make it very confusing for you !!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lol xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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Hi PW.
Could you take the time,and draw a sketch showing how the right hand rule would be in my video setup,using the polarities i have used.Also,if an ion flow is the cause,then why the different direction,even though both magnetic and electrical polarities are the same in each test.

Brad

Pink flux loops shown are aligned from south to north they deflect to the left if they are facing you and to the right if they are facing away from you given a south field up. ...  resulting in clockwise spin from the outside, and a composite that is counter clockwise in the center.