Did some research on this.

I did find this http://www.pure-energy.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DispellingMythsAboutReactivePowerinResonantCircuits.pdf

Also, I noticed this calculation "83.5 VA - 78.4 VAR = 5.1 Watts ". I mentioned about fifteen pages back that this was incorrect math. You need to use vector addition and subtraction so sqt(83.5*83.5 - 78.4*78.4) = 28.7 W

Yep. And I and Farmhand are using the inductive coupling method of extracting power from the resonating tank. So what is the response of the QEG believers to that PDF?

Does anyone still believe that Torelco isn't fully involved in this fraud?

Yes I'm using a 0.1 Ohm - 5W ceramic power resistor, inductance is 119 uH, capacitance is about 1200 pF frequency 420 kHz.

Say what?  119 uH for a 0.1 ohm, 5W  wirewound resistor? That seems to be a very high inductance if correct.
Such a high inductance for a CSR at 420 KHz could definitely throw off your scope measurements significantly. If that value of
inductance of your 0.1 ohm CSR resistor is correct and you are aware of it, then it looks like you have deliberately been trying
to make bad measurements to try to make some point?  It looks like you are deliberately running your circuit at a frequency
at which your CSR is coming into self resonance, and thus throwing your measurements way off. However, anyone with a
half decent knowledge of doing scope measurements at high frequencies would be aware of this sort of problem and
take steps to avoid it.

Just for comparison, I have a 1 ohm, 5W wirewound ceramic power resistor and its inductance  is only about 0.7 uH. Anyway, if the inductance
of your CSR really is 119uH, then it might well explain at least a good part of the strange scope measurements you have been posting here.
Sure, a person has to know how to use their scope well and be aware of various potential problem areas to make accurate measurements,
but that doesn't mean that everyone out there is making bad measurements just because there is a potential for it. 
Yes, I know that there are various people out there on the internet who do make bad measurements and thus come to false conclusions about
overunity, but that doesn't make them all 'frauds' and 'scammers'. Some people just are mistaken because they don't
have the proper technical background to realize their measurement errors and incorrect assumptions. Not a big deal to me.
It is a given that many home hobbyists who are not formally trained in electronics or mechanics or whatever they are experimenting with
are going to come to false conclusions sometimes. Heck even many professional engineers and scientists can make measurement
errors or make incorrect assumptions. That's why we have a whole peer review process built into our science vetting process.
Not a big deal mate. It all works out in the wash. Either something really works as described or it doesn't. 

Say what?  119 uH for a 0.1 ohm, 5W  wirewound resistor? That seems to be a very high inductance if correct.
Such a high inductance for a CSR at 420 KHz could definitely throw off your scope measurements significantly. If that value of
inductance of your 0.1 ohm CSR resistor is correct and you are aware of it, then it looks like you have deliberately been trying
to make bad measurements to try to make some point?  It looks like you are deliberately running your circuit at a frequency
at which your CSR is coming into self resonance, and thus throwing your measurements way off. However, anyone with a
half decent knowledge of doing scope measurements at high frequencies would be aware of this sort of problem and
take steps to avoid it.

Just for comparison, I have a 1 ohm, 5W wirewound ceramic power resistor and its inductance  is only about 0.7 uH. Anyway, if the inductance
of your CSR really is 119uH, then it might well explain at least a good part of the strange scope measurements you have been posting here.
Sure, a person has to know how to use their scope well and be aware of various potential problem areas to make accurate measurements,
but that doesn't mean that everyone out there is making bad measurements just because there is a potential for it. 
Yes, I know that there are various people out there on the internet who do make bad measurements and thus come to false conclusions about
overunity, but that doesn't make them all 'frauds' and 'scammers'. Some people just are mistaken because they don't
have the proper technical background to realize their measurement errors and incorrect assumptions. Not a big deal to me.
It is a given that many home hobbyists who are not formally trained in electronics or mechanics or whatever they are experimenting with
are going to come to false conclusions sometimes. Heck even many professional engineers and scientists can make measurement
errors or make incorrect assumptions. That's why we have a whole peer review process built into our science vetting process.
Not a big deal mate. It all works out in the wash. Either something really works as described or it doesn't. 

Now Void, Buddy I've got non inductive "Ohmite" resistors on the way, if you think I'm deliberately running the setup at a
frequency to cause the resistor be in self resonance, then you're dead wrong about the deliberate part ! And that is a slurring my
name.
Why do that ?

I'm not a half wit I'm just a boilermaker. You think I would use a resistor with 119 uH in a resonant setup like this ? OMG
Get off my back champ. Are you in Aus ?
Wanna come to my house and measure the resistor for me ?  You're welcome to do that.
While you're here you can spend a few hours teaching me how to use the scope correctly, don't expect payment though
and I might get you to help me do some farm work !

You are free to ignore me. But I have no intention of wasting more time. I haven't made any "claims" except sarcastically.
unless you want to pay me then you are not my boss, even then I need to allow you to pay me before that can happen.

..

Hi Farmhand. Ok, I would be inclined to think that if you are knowingly using a CSR with an
inductance of 119 uH that you would likely know that this is going to throw off your scope measurements.
That's why I was asking if you were doing this deliberately to try to make a point.

How did you measure the inductance of your 0.1 ohm resistor?
If it is measuring that high of an inductance with a half decent inductance meter, then it may very
well be the cause of your odd scope measurement results. At an inductance value of 119uH at 420 KHz,
it could be at or near self resonance which can give the kind of strange phase shift and unusually
high scope voltage readings you are seeing.

One way to check if a resistor (or coil) is at or close to self resonance is (only if the voltage levels are safe) is to
slowly bring your hand or finger near, or put it right on the body of the resistor, while you are monitoring
the voltage waveform across it with your scope probe, and see if the voltage fluctuates up and down as
you touch and move your finger close to and away from the resistor body. If the voltage amplitude across
the resistor does fluctuate when doing this then your resistor is definitely showing resonance effects.

Anyway, 119uH, if correct, will definitely throw off your scope measurements at a frequency of 420 KHz.
Your non inductive CSR resistors should make a big difference in your measurements if that is the case.


Edit: Ignore the above. I see you posted that the 119 uH is not correct for your CSR...



All the best...

 

Thanks for the replies and tips Void and everyone, I will need to read back in the thread to get things sorted in my head better, I
have a few questions but I'll do some re-reading first.

I've adjusted the primary capacitance to 25 nF and now I can get more input under load, with no load the input still goes to max on the power supply before I can tune the secondary to full resonance. If I connect a battery instead for the supply I should get lot's
of "activity" in the secondary tank. Any guesses on the max p to p voltage and current in the secondary tank at say 12.4 volts @ 1 A
input ? Last one got 1600 v p to p and 1.9 A I think but it had 16 more secondary turns and thinner wire.

And would the 12 watts input while there is no actual "load" be dissipated in the secondary circuit or the primary circuit mainly ?
Should be able to feel some warm somewhere after a few minutes dissipating 12 Watts.

I hope not too much of that is RF or EMR or whatever.

Something that's difficult to get an answer to is. Will exposing myself to experimental levels of RF power cause the titanium
screws in my neck to warm up ?
.
 

Yeah Hoppy, You're Right, it would be an alloy of titanium and stainless steel basically, there would be
a few different ingredients, like most metals titanium is alloyed for different reasons. Steel itself is just
a mixture of Iron Carbon and whatever else is needed to get the properties required. Stainless steel
has a lot of Chromium or other bright metals to resist oxidization ect. Mostly we call metal alloys by the
general name of the most relevant metal or the most % metal, but we usually do add the suffix "alloy".
Not many pure metals are used for fasteners or construction.

Stainless steel and regular steel as well as aluminium being widely used metals for building things
have many different "grades" or "alloy ingredients". I forget most all the numbers and uses but
there are quite a few.

Say Molybdenum three times fast. 

I was thinking eddy currents or something. I do get odd feelings in there at times.

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Hot off the presses:

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Exciting Progress is being made!  Hope Girl is on the road again! I’m headed off to Florida to work with Tesla Energy Solutions in preparation for the future of the QEG. 
 
 Tesla Energy Solutions LLC. One of our main supporters and partners is now offering QEG Kits and QEG Training Programs.   They are an amazing company that work with methods to obtain or generate free energy from the environment, exploring the original ideas of “Nikola Tesla”, “Don Smith”, “T. Henry Moray”, “Steven Mark”, and many others.
 This collaboration comes at a divine moment in time for the QEG project. Just know that even though we’ve been quiet, we are avidly doing the necessary work to make sure this opensourced technology makes it directly to the people. Now is the time for major business strategy in a new paradigm manner so that we are all well prepared for what is about to unfold (wink wink)
 
 Please stay tuned to my FB page for updates on the QEG progress and our CICU major distribution plan.
 Much Love,
 Hope
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What?

Now is the time for major business strategy in a new paradigm manner so that we are all well prepared for what is about to unfold (wink wink)

So Naima is going back to the "business fantasy" side of the operation, just like Rossi fantasizing about a production plant with a fully robotic assembly line.  She is "setting up a CICU distribution plan" like some kind of Chicago Prohibition bootlegger.  It's all fantasy talk.

Tesla Energy Solutions LLC. One of our main supporters and partners is now offering QEG Kits and QEG Training Programs.

Run for the hills and don't spend a single cent.  I don't know if the Tesla Energy Solutions QEG clip from a month or so ago is still up on YouTube but the guy clearly barely knew what he was doing.

The illusion that they have a free energy machine or are on the verge of having a free energy machine is still being perpetrated by Naima Feagin.  It's a lie.

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