It is interesting.You all build your devices using Breadboards and terminals and clamps.
Am I the only one so far soldering the old fashioned way?

You have no clue as to the Figuera device and probably never will. Keep on tainting threads your good at it. I was warned about your mouth prior to coming here. Good day discussion over with your kind.

Cadman;

 I think I understand what you are saying now, please correct if wrong. Your proposing to switch coil count as the brush rotates having more coils active on the high side and less on the low side then vise verse.? If that is the case then where does the resistance come into play knowing that resistors burn off potential as heat yet inductance stores and release from magnetic field.?
From just reading Doug1 and the patents the primaries are wound specifically as electromagnets so current control has to come from somewhere.

You have no clue as to the Figuera device and probably never will. Keep on tainting threads your good at it. I was warned about your mouth prior to coming here. Good day discussion over with your kind.

Cadman;

 I think I understand what you are saying now, please correct if wrong. Your proposing to switch coil count as the brush rotates having more coils active on the high side and less on the low side then vise verse.? If that is the case then where does the resistance come into play knowing that resistors burn off potential as heat yet inductance stores and release from magnetic field.?
From just reading Doug1 and the patents the primaries are wound specifically as electromagnets so current control has to come from somewhere.

Let me try to make my thinking on that particular idea clear to you. You know what device I built years ago, it convinced me that was the wrong path because it really didn’t maintain a constant strength magnetic field or provide any movement in the field. It acted kind of like PWM.

I ask myself, how did the old dynamos work? They created constant strength magnetic fields (ignoring load regulation for now) and then moved a specific number of wires or bars across and through those fields at a specific rate. That’s as simple as I can state it. Just placing stationary wires in a fluctuating magnetic field is not the same thing. I have been looking for a way to add real movement to the field ever since.

Even though I don’t think the following is the way to go, Hanon’s video did show better output with like fields facing but he still had physical movement. Physical movement could be simulated with an exciter coil made of pie segments, of for instance 10 segments, 5 consecutive magnetized at all times. While one end segment is being added the opposite end segment being dropped, adding and dropping until the 5 arrive at an end. When the 5 magnetized segments arrive at one end of the coil a segment is added at the other end of the 5 while the last added is dropped and the 5 ‘move’ toward the opposite end of that 10 segment exciter. Back and forth. That’s one exciter. The opposite exciter is being operated in the same manner so both their fields are moving left then both moving right in unison. The consequent middle pole would be constant strength and it’s location would be moving left and right through the excited windings core.

That would be one way to provide a constant strength ‘moving’ field at the intersection of the opposing exciters.

Resistors? What resistors? Those were just drawn to help demonstrate the concept. One of the patents even says so. The exciter coils themselves are resistors for that matter. Each ‘pie’ in the above example could be considered a separate resistor. Saying one exciter becomes full while the opposite becomes empty could also describe one the above exciters. One pie becomes full while the pie at the other end empties. Point being, don't get hung up on those patent drawings as being the actual device.

An inductor has large amounts of flux available to control current flow yet can be made variable through the use of a rotating brush.

Inductors also cause the current to lag voltage.  Will 1 electromagnet fire off out-of-phase than the other if we use inductors as resistors? Tonight I will test if using inductors as the resistance causes the 2 electromagnets to project their magnetic field out-of-phase  or not..

What became clear to me is Clemente and Telsa alike were both basically simulating a sinewave to cause a change in direction without changing the direction of incoming current.  If we change the direction of a magnetic field without changing incoming current direction, then we get the induced coil to produce a magnetic field that assist us instead of opposes us.

  Brain storm, There is no resistors in the figuera device and I guess the rotating brush is not needed either so forget about that also. Maybe we could use plastic for a core also. I bet it would look pretty though.

Well that's enough for me, I thought I could get more insight here but looks were deceiving. Our group of five in our neighborhood formed to build this and basically came for what we needed which was Doug1 posts. Of course we vid chat with mm, nice guy shared everything and his electronic board is perfect.

Good day!

If you want to add some resistance to the circuit, just run it a bit under or over the resonant frequency of the total inductance. I learned it the hard way until I figured out that I was fighting 760 ohms in my coils. Then it got easier. Up or down a hertz or two can make or break it.

Floodrod
Keep up the good work. To my knowledge your one of very few people who has actually made an effort to build and test the patent as the inventor claimed.

AC

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Thank you AC.  Apparently ego's get insulted easily when they come across a person who wants to think for themselves.

Until someone demonstrates a working over unity machine, I will continue to go my own way and formulate my own ideas.

Like it or not, I care not. I am a self-declared Bohemian who goes against the grain. 

Whether actual resistors or inductances were used is open to debate. I have used hand wound nichrome wire resistors and an auto-transformer based design. Both worked, and used a commutator to produce the stepped wave form output to the exciter coils.
Neither one is a ‘special secret’ to a working Figuera generator.

Yes Floodrod, keep up the good work and follow the path your experiments lead you.

PS.
Another thing. A dynamo capable of running a 20HP motor would be big. Hundreds of pounds of iron and dozens of pounds of copper.
All we’re trying to make are toys as a proof of concept.

Crazy you mentioned the resistor wire. I just ordered 100 ft of resistance wire last night so I can make a resistance board. It will allow me to slide alligator clips and fine-tune the sine wave to exactly how I want it.

Personally, I don't even want to experiment with extracting power from coils until I perfect the sine wave.  The idea is to create two near perfect sine waves that bottom out on the zero line. So basically we are simulating two sine waves with a positive bias.

And as I said earlier, we can actually do this without switching direction of current going into the coils. If you start drawing it out and thinking how back EMF and induction work, you may see the advantage that I'm seeing.   

The magic occurs from the decreasing current. Or when the sine wave is going down. And every time one side is going up, the other side is going down.