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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2358127 times)

Belfior

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"I no longer find it necessary or desirable to post on this website as i do not enjoy rhetoric or foolishness posted from non-intelligent people..."

Finally you noticed your posts are just abusive and non-intelligent.

citfta

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"I no longer find it necessary or desirable to post on this website as i do not enjoy rhetoric or foolishness posted from non-intelligent people..."

Finally you noticed your posts are just abusive and non-intelligent.

Well said Belfior!!!  ;D :)


Bravo!!!

marathonman

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Trolls always think alike, total unintelligent fools that don't take the simple time to do a simple test that proves everything i have been saying is Physics facts.
all you people do is blow smoke up other peoples Arse and each other that reconfirm my original assessment of you trolls, which is unintelligent,  lazy and worth nothing.
How many more threads can you lousy trolls destroy before people realize your all fake, and paid to disrupt and to unintelligent to perform one or two lousy test that can end all this nonsense. noooo, it's to ease just to run the mouth instead.
EF and OU are nothing but troll central.

I HATE TROLLS THAT IS WHY I ABUSE YOU.

Get off your lazy arse and do the tests or SHUT UP AND GO AWAY.  I mean "really" what the heck are you people doing here because it certainly isn't free energy or ANY research for that matter. if it was none of your mouths would be flapping like they are. NOT ONE SINGLE MOUTHER has done a simple test or two that proves what had been said. I DON'T OWE YOU NOTHING at all and i will be darn if you think i will hand over all my research to foolish people that are TO DARN LAZY  to get off your lazy butts and figure it out. how many clues does a fool need to get the hint.

One final clue i will give to you people, trolls run their mouths, RESEARCHES get busy and research and prove.

WHAT ARE YOU.? YOUR VERY NEXT WORDS DEFINE YOUR TRUE CHARACTER. ARE YOU A TROLL OR A RESEARCHER.????????

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 05:45:53 AM by marathonman »

marathonman

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I am a researcher so i must chug on.
There has to be someone on this site that understands Physics and the working parameters of an Inductor opposing current, storing and releasing potential.
In this first graph the current in half of the system is increasing, storing into the magnetic field causing a voltage drop in the system.  it is storing into the field from the rising primaries and the rising side of part G only to release some of the potential into the system in the next half cycle. they are additive meaning the voltage drop of both are adding to the total voltage drop. even though the primaries are Electromagnets they will store and release potential into the system just like an Inductor would as both are magnetic fields.

In this second graph the current in half of the system is decreasing releasing stored potential into the system to offset the potential drop of the rising side of the system. when you have two forms of released potential that are not mutually coupled they are additive giving an amplification in potential that is twice that of one potential alone. with the added secondary adding to that doubled potential you will have an offset of the voltage drop of the rising side plus amplification to the peak primaries as an added bonus.

The current in the system is flowing in the same direction at all times thus allowing part G to become the power supply once the starting supply is removed.

come on folks it is really simple, a resistor waste potential and an Inductor stores and releases potential efficiently when properly built.
please do a test or two to prove at least for your selves it can be done.


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« Last Edit: June 07, 2018, 04:51:42 AM by marathonman »

marathonman

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The two graphs posted are each half of the system happening simultaneously, one increasing in current, one decreasing in current. the side that is increasing will be storing into the magnetic field for the next half cycle and the one decreasing in current will be releasing the reduced potential into the system offsetting the voltage drop of the rising side of the system.  these two halves of the system are equal in proportion to each other, one having a voltage drop, the other having a voltage rise to offset the other halves voltage drop. the secondary is there to replace losses occurred and to give rise to an amplification to the rising primary.

it doesn't matter if it is an Inductor or an Electromagnet, if it is a coil of wire and especially if it is wound on an iron core, it will release magnetic stored potential into the system when reduced in current. this is plain Physics all day long, when the magnetic field is reduced in current it releases potential into the system increasing the voltage. both released potentials will act as very short term batteries and it is this very Physics fact of why part G can become the power supply once the starting supply is removed. reduced primaries into part G, secondary into part G combined with reducing half of part G will in fact give amplification to the rising side.

part G with the brush rotating changes the inductor size on each side of the brush that either add windings or subtract windings to that side changing the magnetic linking to the system which is changing the magnetic field to current ratio. when you change this ratio you are changing the magnetic resistance to current flow causing the primaries to either increase or decrease in current flow.

all this happens simultaneously while the primaries are being swept back and fourth over the secondary inducing motion into the secondary and the load.

all the information presented is and always will be Physics facts not fiction and can be replicated on the bench by anyone that proves everything i have presented is of course Physics facts.

just because some people on this forum are to lazy, not smart enough or just to darn stubborn to to do simple test does not change the fact that this info is physics facts. if the above statement is true than please do not ruin it for people out there that either want to learn, have a desire to learn or are trying to replicate this device.

all i am doing is trying to open ones mind to other possibilities that what we have been told or taught in school systems is not exactly true and have spent millions upon millions hiding these very facts.  If i wanted to argue i would of gotten married but instead i chose to study,research, replicate and share what i have learned in this process on this site. what you chose to do with the information presented is of course entirely up to you.

REGARDS,
Marathonman
« Last Edit: June 07, 2018, 06:14:16 PM by marathonman »

marathonman

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Quote from a researcher;
"Energy In is never ever in a billion years going to magically Create more Energy Out!"

EXACTLY, and well put. people still seem to think that they are to build the Figuera device without part G's inductance adding to the system reusing the potential from the magnetic to the electric.

I'm sorry but this is not ever, ever, ever going to happen if you have to supply all the power to the primaries all the time. standard generators do not operate like this and neither does any device i know of, nature does not operate like this.

in a standard generator the primary exciters once up to working conditions, the power draw is reduced to just the IR2 losses to maintain the field. if the power had to be replace all the time a standard generator would no work the way it does. it brings in energy from outside the system and takes time to acquire the proper pressure needed in the system to maintain the load. it does this over time taking some of the output to feed back to the exciters until there is enough pressure in the system for the exciters and the load.

It is still quite obvious people still do not grasp the way a generator works and if you think you are going to build the Figuera device without part G you are in for a very expensive surprise and should prepare yourselves for an unwanted outcome.
Generators generate over time not instantly, that is why when a load is drawing more than supplied it causes the resistance to drop in the external load causing more current to flow thus return more current to the exciters to produce a more intense field to produce more output then the exciters and the load combined. electricity is a pressure system and it takes time to build up the pressure in mans systems to operate our machinery.
Physics do not tell a lie when it comes to our world we live in only our incorrect assumption of our observations and senses which generally do not coincide with reality.
Regards,

Marathonman
« Last Edit: June 09, 2018, 07:20:11 PM by marathonman »

marathonman

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Try this analogy and apply it to your energy devices. try blowing up a balloon instantly and tell me what happens. yes, the balloon will indeed pop. now blow it up slower and see how large the balloon gets as it stretches to accommodate the increasing pressure.

try hitting mans electric devices with instant power and stand back watching the sparks fly because that is what will happen. since electricity is a form of pressure it takes time to build up the pressure in an electric system. no generator in the world can instantly provide you with a massive amount of pressure sorry this will never happen.
in a standard generator it takes time for the pressure to equalize in the system. when the load increases the resistance falls on the external part of the system causing more currant to flow which intern sends more currant to the AVR then to the exciters to produce a more intense field to equalize the pressure of the external load and the exciters combined. it does this over a period of time even though it may seem to you it is instant in reality it is not.

the primary exciters are increased as the electric pressures in the system fluctuate due to the load. if the load requires more pressure the intensity of the exciters will be increase to the point of system equalization as the pressure in the system can handle the load and the exciters combined. all this pressure equalizations happen over time and never instantly.
part of the output pressure is fed back to the exciters to produce a more intense field to produce more pressure in the output and the load. it keeps doing this until the the pressure is equalized according to the resistance of the system. of course there is a limit to the systems we build.
larger generators can handle higher pressures in it's system but then again it does so over time not instantly. if the system primaries would instantly produce an extreme amount of pressure something is going to blow and blow very hard it will.
the opposite is also quite true, disconnecting a system under high electric pressures is probably one of the most dangerous thing one could possibly do as Tesla and Steinmetz were quite aware of the dangers involved.

The Figuera device is not so different than a standard generator other than the obvious which one is rotating and the other is stationary eliminating the nasty cogging effects of the rotating rotor which takes massive amounts of power to overcome the attractive forces.
Figuera in his sheer genius used a rotating Inductor to not only change the currant intensity but used the storing and releasing of potentials to offset each other in the switching process. this basic technique reuses the potential in the system just like a standard generator does  thus acts just like the above description to the tee.
the exciting system and the external system are basically two separate systems and once up to running condition the power draw on the exciting system is reduced to that of the IR2 losses just like a standard generator.

Marathonman



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Just checking in to see how progress is going here. From what I understand, Marathonman is in contact with someone who has a working device and has been helping him to disclose info? Is that true, or did someone feed me a line? Anyway, since MM's first post in [size=0px]February of 2014, it has been a few years, and I was wondering how far along folks are? Have any of the claims that this would make all other devices look silly proven out, or is the research to get a working device still ongoing?[/size]

marathonman

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Progress on this site, now that's an overstatement if i have ever heard one.  all everyone on this site and EF do is argue instead of doing tests and or bench work.  as for "The Someone" i have not talked to him in a while. i do hope he and his family are well if he is listening.

no, no body fed you a line of bs as i am from my research and bench work a witness to his accomplishment which i might say was top notch work. yes he did share a lot but it took some years for me to understand just what he was talking about in a few areas.
i have learned and built enough to say that the device works as he predicted but no one even bothers to learn just how the device works or even seems to care. people in hell want ice but that doesn't mean they are going to get it when not knowing how to freeze water.

a lot of info has been posted and actually should be read for a change understanding it's implication but that is not my concern. my only concern i have right now is looping the secondary back to part G and i will leave you with that.

I am much farther along than what all of them together seem to know which is nothing.

Stay tuned the fun is just about to get started and trolls will be silenced once and for all.

Regards,

Marathonman


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The whole reason myself and others from EF at that time were attaining such low output is the reduction of the magnetic fields of the primary electromagnets in relation to the secondary. if the winding's on part G are to little then the current reduction will be small then so is the E field presented to the secondary. the graph below is where the mistake was made by most.
the top one is where to little of winding's on part G causes a small variation in magnetic field thus causing a very small E field to the secondary.
the bottom graph is the actual area the magnetic fields of the primaries are being swept across the entire secondary. if the proper amount of winding were to be wound on part G the sweeping action will be the entire length of the secondary.

this is of course having the proper pressure between the primaries in the first place. it takes 14.8 lbs pressure being swept across the secondary to attain 1 kilowatt of output power so if your pressure is to low you will not get an output or very little. :'(

for every kilowatt of output the primaries split the pressure between them so each primary electromagnet is is accountable for 7.4 lbs pressure one increasing, one decreasing causing the Electric fields of each electromagnet to be coherent which is the same direction of currant flow. and again i will throw out the Physics fact of what i just said. ;D

Marathonman

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According to my research conducted on inductance any change in the area of the inductor changes the current flow when using DC but when the brush motion ceases so does the current reduction. when in motion the constant changing of the circuit (with current being a steady flow) will add or subtract winding's that magnetically link to the circuit that opposes the change in current flow. this self inductance is the ratio of magnetic field to current and when you change this ratio (increasing or deceasing the Magnetic field) you change the current flow it self .

Quote from Wikipedia;
 "Any alteration to a circuit which increases the flux (total magnetic field) through the circuit produced by a given current increases the inductance, because inductance is also equal to the ratio of magnetic flux to current"

this is Directly from Faraday's mouth himself in his LAWS of Induction stating any change in the circuit causes induction to occur that opposes the change in the first place. the larger the magnetic field the larger the ratio of magnetic field to current thus any change in the circuit it self will in fact change this ratio.

the graph below is the very thing that is stated above according to Faraday himself that (ANY) change in a circuit will change the inductance. just like a standard adjustable inductor part G operates on these very same principals except part G has a constant moving brush contact.
why is it so hard for people to realize part G is the very thing Faraday's laws discus and is quoted in Wikipedia which is not made up by me. when the brush rotates it adds or subtracts winding to each side of the circuit which is changing the magnetic field to current ratio which is the opposition to the original current flow (Self Induction). the larger the magnetic field the more opposition to current flow and the less the magnetic field the less opposition to current flow and that is plain and simple. the Cemf produced is self induction which is the magnetic linking to the circuit producing a reverse potential that opposes the original current flow.

part G is a prime example of Faraday's LAWS OF INDUCTION but because this very facts have not been taught in our lousy Government Controlled School systems so people are having a hard time realizing these facts. people are taught that an Inductor is solely a passive device when in fact it can and does operate just fine in an active position using self inductance to control current flow which is in absolute compliance with Faraday's LAWS OF INDUCTION and thus further investigated by Heinrich Friedrich Emil Lenz and known as the Lenz law.
Quote; "Lenz's law states that the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion."

then on top of these very facts stated above the inductor stores and releases it's magnetic field at the right time to be combined with the reducing primaries magnetic fields to off set the voltage drop of the rising side of the system. the release of potential into the system from (ANY) magnetic field is in fact the laws of Induction set fourth by Faraday himself and can not be denied or disputed by NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON.


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« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 10:18:04 PM by marathonman »

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Years ago, Computer was as big as  standard room size. But now you have them on your palms and in your pockets.
The early inventors werew not the ones who largely brings about the reduction in size applying *High Frequency*!

Part G as I always say can be replaced with Motionless version or Solid state Part G.
Remember the Original Tesla Switch is made with mechanical Switch but now successful replications have Semiconductors replacing the wear and tear prone commutator.

So one one needs to stick to 50% when 1000% efficiency can now be easily achieved.

If you even wanna make the Figuera Gen more Powerful, use a C-Core Ferrite Core which like me anyone can make at home using Iron Powder and Resin and Hardner or Catalyst. You simply make a mould with Cardboard and or 5mm thick Particle board. It is easy to make.

To get more high power, simply use 1:4 winding. That is if your Serially connected Bucking Primary is 10g in weight then, you Secondary should weigh 40g. That way, like me, you will achieve auto-resonance without padding of the coils with Capacitor.

Your secondary wire thickness must be high enough to withstand the stepdown "CURRANT" but it must pave way for auto resonance by applying 1:4 wire weight.

BE DYNAMIC BECAUSE NO MORTAL MAN IS PERFECT.



marathonman

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CEMF which is Counter-electromotive force is the current produced that opposes the original current flow by magnetically linking to the loop next to it (This can also be defined as magnetic flux linkage). it is known as the Lenz Law.

  Inductors are devices that can store their energy in the form of a magnetic field and then release their potential increasing the voltage in the circuit. Inductors are made from individual loops of wire combined to produce a coil and if the number of loops within the coil are increased, then for the same amount of current flowing through the coil, the magnetic flux will also increase.

So by increasing the number of loops or turns within a coil, increases the coils inductance which increases the CEMF product to counter act the original current flow.  so when you rotate a positive brush contact you are adding or subtracting loops within the coil on part G that magnetically link to the circuit which changes the CEMF which is the magnetic field to current ratio which is the opposition to the original current flow.

therefore as the brush rotates the current through the twin opposing primary electromagnets will in Physics fact change in an orderly fashion one increasing while the other decreases causing the sweeping action across the secondary that induces motion in to the secondary.
This is exactly why Figuera used an Inductor taking it from a static device to an active device as the vital piece of his device to control the current flow through his primary electromagnets with the added bonus of storing and releasing the potential at the exact time needed. i would like to see just how you can achieve all that without the use of part G or by the use of heat death resistors in the system......     yeah right !.

Part G in the patent is in fact an INDUCTOR and can no way in hell be a resistor network.

Marathonman


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Here lies the major problem.
 Basics of self induction.  When there is a time varying change in current, you induce voltage.  The higher the rate of changing current the higher the value of CEMF.
what people don't understand is that if the circuit changes it is in complete compliance with Faraday's Laws of Induction. when i say the circuit changes i mean as the brush rotates so does the circuit change in size on each side of the brush being separated by two north opposing magnetic fields. any movement of the circuit (with currant being steady)  produces CEMF in the circuit and this is not fiction it is Faraday's Law's of induction which is Physics fact.
when you change a circuit adding loops to the system you change the magnetic field to current ratio which is the CEMF that opposes the original current flow. what this means is the more loops you add to the system (current being steady) the more the magnetic field opposes the original current flow so by rotating the brush in the Figuera system you are changing the opposition to current flow on a steady basis.
all while in complete compliance with Faraday's Law's of induction.
IMAGINE THAT ! proving trolls wrong with PHYSICS FACTS.

Marathonman

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These very facts are totally impossible to attain with a resistor network and or electronics. if you so choose this path all i can say is be prepared to open the wallet very wide.
do the tests yourself and find out that what i have been saying for many years that self inductance can and will control current flow when the loops change on a continuous basis as the brush rotates on part G the elusive and misunderstood Inductor. :o :-* ;D

Marathonman