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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1461415 times)

Offline marathonman

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IF you so chose to ignore it that is solely your problem not mine. you people were the one's that ignored Doug, sorry I DIDN'T. i so chose to take what he said and proved it on the bench to myself mostly.
I guess i am different as i don't need pretty colored graphs with pop ups to understand the point being conveyed.

i guess that is the real problem with the world today as no one wants to take the time to either use their brain god gave them or think for any length of time.

UNBELIEVABLE. what are you doing on this site if all you people want to do is having your hand held along the way. i though research was performed by the individual not handed to them like a manual.

keeping your head buried in the sand keeps you ignorant to the facts.

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 10:34:17 PM by marathonman »

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Offline T-1000

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i guess that is the real problem with the world today as no one wants to take the time to either use their brain god gave them or think for any length of time.
Please do not take offensively - people use facts not fantasies for real world applications. Same situation with your posts as you are flooding this thread with them. One video proving you claims would be much better than hundreds of posts. Simple as it could be... "Seeing is believing".

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Hi T-1000,  all.

Please be patient, give MM some time to build.
Imagine just the time it takes to machine that BIG aluminium plug.
And without a schematic circuit to follow,  furthermore.

Regards Arne
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 11:25:06 PM by seaad »

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Again the mentally challenged has to chime in with again NOTHING to add but completely stupid rhetoric, a pimple on ones backside for sure. mr goof dressed in purple.
If you people think you can come up with something better well lets here it if it's more than a pop up from your childhood book.

I post real provable information and if you  unintelligent people have nothing to add what are you doing here in the first place. try posting anything remotely valuable to the readers other than how to act an ass.
my posts are not only informative but are packed full of valuable information that apparently you lemmings can not decipher in any way shape or form. not all readers are as dense as you people and just maybe a little more intelligent to boot.

if you have nothing positive to add i would suggest you clowns get packing because your lack of intelligence is getting very old. third grade responses to research does not work very well so you might need another approach as it seems you have absolutely NOTHING for the Figuera device nor will you ever because ping pong ball brains don't work with the Figuera device. it happen's to take intelligence which seams to be lacking in your area.

Marathonman

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T-1000;
i am from a different time of understanding but i will take the time for a video if that is what it takes to shut people up like this fool seaad.
i personally think he was dropped on his head as a baby or beat as a child and has some issues as an adult, i just don't know. he never has anything worth while to post other than BS and should be barred from a research site. if you can't control your self just maybe Stephan needs to step in set things straight as i am fed up with it. this is a sharing research site not a three ring circus.
MAKE YOUR MOVE.

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MM

Perhaps an electronic part G approximation may work. If so, all you need a is a coil with several taps that connect to ground via switches (transistors or FETs) and have the ends of the coil connect to the negative side of the two exciter coils that are fed from the electronically controlled power supplies. The switches are easily synchronized with the sine wave generator as shown in the attached concept drawing. This is adapted from the drawing I posted on page 289. It only shows the changed pages.

I realize that you have posted copious explanations of how part G works and I understand what you are saying, but it seems unnecessary for the following reason. A generator is formed when a conductor cuts the flux lines of a magnetic field. It's the relative motion that matters. If two electromagnets have like poles facing across a coil, their fields collide somewhere between them and add, and if their relative strength is changed by changing their excitation voltages, the collision point moves toward the weaker field. If the electromagnets are excited by complementary waveforms, the collision point moves back and forth across the coil causing flux cutting due to the relative motion....and you have an AC generator with the frequency of the excitation voltages. It seems to me that the part G plays no part in that action and is not necessary. Perhaps my experiments will show me the reason why you say it ain't gonna work.  :(
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Sam;

  I no longer find it necessary or desirable to post on this website as i do not enjoy rhetoric or foolishness posted from non-intelligent people that have no ambition what so ever in building this device and resort to third grade child like tactics to discredit or belittle someone.

as for your thought that part G can be replaced, well all i can say is when you fail at multiple attempts remember the words spoken from me, "I TOLD YOU SO"
you still don't understand the real workings of a generator thus will be your downfall in your replication.

good luck just the same and maybe i will see ya around.

regards,

Marathonman 

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MM

Perhaps an electronic part G approximation may work. If so, all you need a is a coil with several taps that connect to ground via switches (transistors or FETs) and have the ends of the coil connect to the negative side of the two exciter coils that are fed from the electronically controlled power supplies. The switches are easily synchronized with the sine wave generator as shown in the attached concept drawing. This is adapted from the drawing I posted on page 289. It only shows the changed pages.

I realize that you have posted copious explanations of how part G works and I understand what you are saying, but it seems unnecessary for the following reason. A generator is formed when a conductor cuts the flux lines of a magnetic field. It's the relative motion that matters. If two electromagnets have like poles facing across a coil, their fields collide somewhere between them and add, and if their relative strength is changed by changing their excitation voltages, the collision point moves toward the weaker field. If the electromagnets are excited by complementary waveforms, the collision point moves back and forth across the coil causing flux cutting due to the relative motion....and you have an AC generator with the frequency of the excitation voltages. It seems to me that the part G plays no part in that action and is not necessary. Perhaps my experiments will show me the reason why you say it ain't gonna work.  :(
Sam6


I agree to your explanation. I however do not believe it is the original Figuera concept. What we are discussing here is the evolved concept  developed further by Buforn. The original Figuera concept seems to me the way to move magnetic field (as was shown in other thread here) while keeping the fields  in NS NS NS pattern like in normal generators - by properly switching coils in sequence. If you read patent description it explains some weird parts.
Is your circuit really produce clean sinewaves at 180 degrees out of phase one to another ?

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Imho : for this idea (moving two opposing fields) to generate OU we have to go into high frequency.

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MY TWO BOBS WORTH, THIS INVENTION WILL NEVER WORK.
REASON BEING TO PUMP EFFER  THE MAGNETIC FIELD HAS TO BE
MOVING, NOT JUST PULSING OR VARYING IN INTENSITY..IT HAS TO BE
MOVING FROM A TO B..OTHERWISE IT IS JUST LIKE A TRANSFORMER..
THAT IS WHY I POSTED THIS IDEA AND I HAVE BEEN JEERED AT.

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AND WHEN TESLA WAS ASKED WHAT WAS HIS GREATEST ACHIEVEMENTS
HE SAID IT WAS HIS ROTATING MAGNETIC FIELDS INVENTIONS. FIGURE THIS
OUT..

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THE MAGNETIC FIELD HAS TO BE MOVING,
NOT JUST PULSING OR VARYING IN INTENSITY..
.OTHERWISE IT IS JUST LIKE A TRANSFORMER..
I'm agree fully to that above.


Try to explain the principle to your picture step by step.

NIBs or not or FIGUERA or not I don't care.
If you're principle produces overunity it's just fine to me.

Regards Arne

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The circuit produces a 16 step sine wave. The equations for the resistor values used to produce that waveform are shown on the schematic I posted on page 289. The sine wave is filtered to produce a smoothed waveform which is fed to an inverting op amp and a non inverting op amp to produce two waves 180 degrees out of phase. You can view the scope pictures of the unfiltered 180 degree shifted waveforms in the project description I posted on page 289.

The sinusoidal waveforms are applied to PWM chips which alter the duty cycles of constant amplitude pulses in a sinusoidal fashion at 25 KHz. Those pulses drive MOSFETs which switch constant voltage from a main power supply applied to the exciter coils. So the answer to your question is "yes and No", depending where you look at the waveform. But the effect is complementary sinusoidal power applied to the exciter coils in very short pulses. 8)

Sam6


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Having already done these experiments at 50 Hz AC using soft iron core I will try to do another experiment in the coming weeks using pretty much smaller table top sized devices and using permanent magnet core and about 840 hz.

I believe that Figuera used NS-NS-NS combination only but the primary and middle cores are permanent magnets and that the resistor array was used to increase the voltage of primary. From experience I know that higher the voltage of primary higher is the voltage of secondary. Higher the secondary voltage higher is the current from secondary. The mistake done by me is to use soft iron core rather than permanent magnet core. It should be essentially a Magnetic amplifier effect combined with a high voltage primary coil to oscillate the primary permanent magnets. The rotary coil was used by Figuera to oscillate DC input.  I think we can try to do a very small device and check if it would work.

This is my personal belief and assumptions only at the moment and I will post results of experiments and our observations after we test. Only very small device will be tested to avoid costs and labour and I will update after we do it. We intend to use MOSFETs to do the oscillation part. We will check if high frequency and high voltage combination can also be used using appropriate transistors. We need to wait and see.

Rather than 7 or 8 modules used by Figuera we will test with only one module and if results are promising we will add more modules.

I think it can work but let us wait and see.

Regards

Ramaswami Natarajan

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OMG i can't stop laughing from the stupidity, the blind leading the blind. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I believe that Figuera used ...... that is a dead give away people that this FOOL NEVER HAD DONE ANY RESEARCH WHAT SO EVER IN THE FIGUERA DEVICE.
Stupid fools, you deserve one another.
Stupidity at it's finest.

 

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