Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE (Read 2364831 times)

hanon · « **Reply #2685 on:** October 27, 2015, 11:37:27 PM »

A link for those interested in knowing about Hertz Electrodynamics:

http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/elmag/

I see in this theory that there are two different ways to get induction:

1 - with a changing magnetic field in time: dB/dt
2 - with a moving magnetic field in space: v x B

antijon · « **Reply #2686 on:** October 28, 2015, 02:14:37 AM »

@Norman, good effort bro, but as Doug said, will not produce current. If your device is a N on one side, and a S on the other, one swinging out while the other is swinging in, they will produce equal and opposite currents. 1 + -1= 0

Doug, you may be right. Maybe it's time to rebuild my first setup and check the results... That would be the simplest way to interpret Figueras generator, after all.

Hanon, cool link. Do you understand the math?

I'm math illiterate. Good point.
The image is from: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1455120
and he has a pretty clear answer.

Doug1 · « **Reply #2687 on:** October 28, 2015, 11:48:27 AM »

Antijon
It's worse then that. there is no rotation to reverse the field nor any difference in the number of lines of force between them when they are facing ns in the middle. Only the slight shifting of the outside poles on the outer most n and s far from the Y. Think about the number of times you'll get a pulse. If you end with a freq of 100 cycles per sec it's because you thought there was 2 instead of 4. 2 separate magnets north in 1 north out 1 other n in 1 other north out 1 = 4 not two not three but 4 for stones lol.

marathonman · « **Reply #2688 on:** October 28, 2015, 02:30:15 PM »

So in light of this new information have had to reconsider my proposal. that leads me to believe that it is NYN, SYS, NYN ect.... ect
because like you said opposite poles will lead to one magnet so they have to be NYN, SYS.
as one magnet is coming in the other is going out supporting each other in a push pull type of scenario.
so tell me if this is it below.
Thanks for the link Hanon.
But

I am not one to argue but Maxwell's 20 original equations were Altered by Heaviside to erase the free energy equation as was Lorentz. they were paid by JP Morgan, Heaviside paid once and Lorentz twice.
Einstein was and has been proven wrong from about ten different people. he is a complete Idiot and was paid also to keep status quo .
this site reflects all kinds of mistakes that was probably taught to you in school in witch has been wrong for over 100 years.
I to am math deficient but i read very much more than the average person and have learned a lot. enough to know equations were altered.

hanon · « **Reply #2689 on:** October 29, 2015, 09:16:03 AM »

Quote from: marathonman on October 28, 2015, 02:30:15 PM

So in light of this new information have had to reconsider my proposal. that leads me to believe that it is NYN, SYS, NYN ect.... ect
because like you said opposite poles will lead to one magnet so they have to be NYN, SYS.
as one magnet is coming in the other is going out supporting each other in a push pull type of scenario.
so tell me if this is it below.

If that were the case then your setup will produce null voltage because the induction created in the left side of the induced coil would be counterbalanced by the induction done in the right side of the coil ( (+1) + (-1) = 0 ). You are fighting against axial symmetry along the axis joining both inducer poles.

In case of using perpendicular cores I think you would need two output coils (one CW and other CCW) to add up the effect and produce voltage (+1 +1) . Other option is to used aligned cores, as drawn in some Buforn´s patents. The good thing it is that you may test both alternatives just moving/turning the coils.

This video will be of use to see how induction could be done by flux cutting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPbWoaPUE5s

marathonman · « **Reply #2690 on:** October 29, 2015, 05:16:23 PM »

coils acting as one.
I am not powering them both at the same time one coming up the other going down.
i have already seen your video Hanon.

marathonman · « **Reply #2691 on:** October 29, 2015, 08:40:31 PM »

You know one thing that really puzzles me or rather bothers me is out of the entire internet, thousands and thousands of free energy web sites NOT one talks or tried to figure out Clemente Figueras device .... NOT ONE !. this really bothers me and makes me wounder about this guy. i know their is a lot of suppression, even on this site but still in the back of my mind i have been bothered by it.

forest · « **Reply #2692 on:** October 29, 2015, 09:33:14 PM »

Quote from: marathonman on October 29, 2015, 08:40:31 PM

You know one thing that really puzzles me or rather bothers me is out of the entire internet, thousands and thousands of free energy web sites NOT one talks or tried to figure out Clemente Figueras device .... NOT ONE !. this really bothers me and makes me wounder about this guy. i know their is a lot of suppression, even on this site but still in the back of my mind i have been bothered by it.

That's because you cannot argue with that simplicity. If you crack it , build it then everybody can do it also.

RandyFL · « **Reply #2693 on:** October 29, 2015, 09:49:32 PM »

MarathonMan,
It bothers me that you have been bothered...I've for one have been waiting in the wings hoping you had/have solved the Fiqueras ...

In the conspiracy Camp that Doug1, you and I have dabbled in... you have to be very good in mathematics and especially mathematics pertaining to physics to understand the simplicity that Figueras had found... the education that Faraday taught himself was very Noble but the understanding that Tesla and Figueras knew was beyond most common people...

my point in this is keep going...

All the best
RandyFL

ps I am still in the wings but I have looked into more of Tesla's work for now

marathonman · « **Reply #2694 on:** October 29, 2015, 10:33:36 PM »

I am reading everything i can on Magnetism ....very old as in 1800's until now. it's just every thing published is junk as in raped by JP Morgan and friends. all the crap that was in school books is totally useless to everyone and should be used to start your fire place insted of being on school/Library shelves.
i won't stop doing what i like to do... reading, electronics and building crap with my hands. and besides like someone said their is only a few ways you can rig this device and I will find it.

The good thing it is that you may test both alternatives just moving/turning the coils. This is exactly what i plan on doing Hanon

hanon · « **Reply #2695 on:** October 30, 2015, 01:07:01 AM »

If you really want to know the great suppressed electrodynamics theory you should go deep into Ampere and Weber electrodynamics, sadly almost forgotten now. They discovered a longitudinal force, not represented in current transversal equations. A good point to start: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/spring01/Electrodynamics.html

I think that in recent years nobody has suppressed Figuera. For sure in 1902 there was a huge suppression , a dark chapter that we do not know. But later, he remained forgotten, lost in the patent archives until 2011

Doug1 · « **Reply #2696 on:** October 30, 2015, 11:46:03 AM »

Suppression if you want to call it that happens later. The constitution includes commerce clauses which will prohibit such a device because it will upset the economy and the tax base to such a high degree. Im the gonna guess every country that does business internationally or with the world bank system will also have difficulties with allowing such concepts to be wide spread. Then of course you have so many people in the communities who are invested in the systems in place that will lose huge sums of money as a result. I wouldnt worry about MIB's I would be more concerned with the guy next door who who might lose his life savings. He's not governed by any rules like a gov employee he might just beat his losses out of you with a hammer. Then as you can imagine it would get blamed on the mystical MIB's. If I were a gambling type I would put my money on the later being the hard part not the device being hard to figure out. Just food for thought.
C.Y.A.

shadow119g · « **Reply #2697 on:** October 30, 2015, 03:18:09 PM »

Are there any "practical" working free energy devices out there?

norman6538 · « **Reply #2698 on:** October 30, 2015, 03:25:47 PM »

Quote from: shadow119g on October 30, 2015, 03:18:09 PM

Are there any "practical" working free energy devices out there?

That is what we are all looking and working for so I think the answer is probably not.
But there are some things that "seem" to have promise.
But I've almost given up after 15 years of stalking this horse.

I do have an overunity permanent magnet device but it does not have enough power
to self reciprocate and it will not scale up to big power well due to size and weight.
So overunity does exist because I have seen it myself.

Norman

shadow119g · « **Reply #2699 on:** October 30, 2015, 09:00:28 PM »

Norman, thank you for your response.

Of course I didn't want to hear that, but, i find it extremely difficult to believe
that the Figuera devices and many others were merely a way to empress the
people of their era.

Thanks again,

Shadow

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