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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11831923 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1620 on: May 24, 2013, 07:30:54 PM »
@NickZ and others who may be interested:
Here's a photo of the main board of my TinselKoil 2, which seems to have circuitry very similar to some of those I've seen in this thread and the other Kap threads. I've annotated some parts of interest. This circuit took some time to develop and I blew a lot of transistors doing it, but in the form shown it's reliable and robust, as long as proper cooling is provided to the transistors.

It has a TL494 chip producing the clock pulses, with duty cycle and frequency control from the little blue trimpots. The output of this PWM chip is then split and inverted by the 2n7000 stage, producing 2 antiphase square waves. These are then fed to the PNP-NPN bipolar H-bridge for current amplification. The outputs from this bipolar bridge are fed to the primaries of 2 trifilar toroidal phase transformers. Their outputs then directly drive the gates of the corresponding high-current mosfets in the primary H-bridge. This bridge switches 170 VDC from the main DC supply from the mains, and is capacitively coupled to the resonator's primary coil consisting of a few turns (4, IIRC) of heavy wire around the base of the low-aspect-ratio secondary.
The primary bridge can be switched from full-bridge to half-bridge mode by the little toggle switch, and the whole thing can be put into autoresonating mode by letting a CMOS inverter/schmitt trigger chip with a little antenna detect the field of the resonator and make pulses to clock the 494 that way, instead of using the external RC network for fixed timing.

And then I've attached an image of a characteristic "psark" from this coil. It's about 15 cm long.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1621 on: May 24, 2013, 07:34:00 PM »
  According to Ismael, the compression of the surrounding ambient by the spike, draws in additional energy.
And, the shorting of this peek is done through resonance using a capacitor. The problem is that this high energy spike will kill the IGBT.  And it costed $200.000 to resolve this, by filtering. 

  T-1000, So, what are you waiting for?  Others to do it?   Why???  No spoon?


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1622 on: May 24, 2013, 07:51:09 PM »
  Tinsel:
   Ok, so there are some similarities.  And you should be able to help figure out what Akula is doing in his set up.
   It does seam as the working principals are the banging together of two different pulses, or maybe just one, and harvesting the additional energies that are created by that action, using resonance to control the shorting, at the right frequency.
I may not be saying correctly, but I think I'm getting the point.  NOW, the HOW to do it, is what we need, as always.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1623 on: May 24, 2013, 08:03:02 PM »
The diodes facing each other from Gate to Source on the mosfets are most probably not 1n4148, but rather are 12 or 15 volt Zeners. This is a common thing to do when using mosfets, to protect the gate from overvoltage spikes. It's sort of a gate voltage regulator. I can't think of any reason that one would use a small signal switching diode here, but it makes good sense to use Zeners.
The red wires from the yoke appear to go to the mosfet drains (middle pins) and the blue wires from the driver go to the sources (rightmost pin). The other diodes and cap on the mosfets: one is probably a Schottky diode to supplement the mosfet's body diode, between source and drain, to keep the mosfet cool.
The cap, other diode and resistor together I'm not so sure about.
Yes it zener diodes 12 volts let say. I use always zener diode, but only one betwen gate and source  to protect mosfet. Also 10-20 kiloom resistor. Akula use very much protections, zener diodes, varicaps (that seems like kapasitors), diodes, it very complex protection mosfets, but you can use only one zener diode and resistor, but resistor is more not for protection, for mee good work, but sometimes burn. If you have many many, then to save time better use one zener and one resistor, than try make didicult protection, I think.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1624 on: May 24, 2013, 08:07:12 PM »
  T-1000, So, what are you waiting for?  Others to do it?   Why???  No spoon?

Like kids... :) (don't take seriously) When this stuff will become as general knowledge the "pot" will be in everyone's house who wanted it.
I shared my knowledge, your turn to use it or ignore it. ;)

MenofFather

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1625 on: May 24, 2013, 08:07:56 PM »
Maybe intended to 'sharpen' the gate pulse leading edge as sometimes used with bipolar transistor switching. Not needed with mosfets. Could these be IGBT's?
You can use bipoliar, but with bipolar can be problemms, for it need thour resistor let say 500 oom go to base and parallel resistor capasitor about 0,01 mikrofarad, then works better, but bipolar advantage, that they for me not that fast burn it more stron vs burns, than mosfets. For me mosfets often burn, then it is hot.

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1626 on: May 24, 2013, 08:21:34 PM »
It has a TL494 chip producing the clock pulses, with duty cycle and frequency control from the little blue trimpots. The output of this PWM chip is then split and inverted by the 2n7000 stage, producing 2 antiphase square waves.
Why?  The TL494 already has complementary outputs.

These are then fed to the PNP-NPN bipolar H-bridge for current amplification.
Does that bridge have a better performance than integrated MOSFET gate driver (e.g.: UCC27511) ?

the whole thing can be put into autoresonating mode by letting a CMOS inverter/schmitt trigger chip with a little antenna detect the field of the resonator and make pulses to clock the 494 that way, instead of using the external RC network for fixed timing.
Cool.  Is that antenna difficult to tune ?

And then I've attached an image of a characteristic "psark" from this coil. It's about 15 cm long.
...and what are the dimensions of the secondary winding?

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1627 on: May 24, 2013, 08:27:35 PM »
Like kids... :) (don't take seriously) When this stuff will become as general knowledge the "pot" will be in everyone's house who wanted it.
I shared my knowledge, your turn to use it or ignore it. ;)

  Yes, it's true that I feel like a kid at times, but not true that I don't take you seriously. As you push others, in the same way I push you. Of course you can do as you like.  I do however appreciate your input, even though you don't find a spoon.

MenofFather

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1628 on: May 24, 2013, 08:51:13 PM »
  quote from Verpies:  Concerning Woopy's scope shots.
  "It was a mistake to take that voltage waveform reading without a resistive load in place of the light bulb.

  Well maybe it was, but this was the path that UFO politics used to get his motors working in a very unconventional way. UFO is also able to light several huge 85watt CFL bulbs, giving many lumins, as well, using what he calls "COLD ELECTRICITY". (the green flashing Cfls).  The main thing is the circuit, and how it may be  similar to what Akula and others may are doing. 
I'm looking for clues...

   Woppy's scope shot are meant to show the tuning of the circuit using the two pots and scope, to find the sweet spot, although that is somewhat conventional, the ultimate results are not.
   I use a light bulb to show me the same thing, as I'm not concerned as to what frequencies are shown by the scope. Having the two trim pots is a great advantage though.

  Tinsel:  Thanks for your analysis of the akula devices. That is the point.  Those pictures are fairly clear.
And yes, I'm guessing as to what the diode values are, the point was the current direction as they are pointing towards each other.

  Menof:  Using the single Fet (in woopy's video) is similar to what you are showing in your diagram, it is a simpler version, to look for the working principals. It also shows that a single Fet will work fine, also. Although he is not showing any real gain by it all. That was not the point  when he made the video.
  Maybe one will not see the input readings drop until there is a feed-back path.  Or not?
One man in one forum made selrunner, but with 3 w led bulb 220 volts, but it light on 100 volts. He say that most inportant is LC circuit and generator. And that very hard find exatly needed frenquency. Need with two potiontiometers for example 200 kiloom and 20 kiloom for tune. But very hard find needed frenquency.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1629 on: May 24, 2013, 08:57:09 PM »
    MenofFather:
   Might be a zener diode, but might not be, also. Why are they facing towards each other? Is this really a common way to protect the Fets?  I don't use Fets, so I don't know...  As they can easily fry out, especially when allowing  them to get the high current back emf pulses 1:10 to deal with, as Ismael is mentioning. They are fast switching, but are also weak. Seams to me that special high current and high voltage diodes are what is needed.  No?


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1630 on: May 24, 2013, 09:20:50 PM »
One man in one forum made selrunner, but with 3 w led bulb 220 volts, but it light on 100 volts. He say that most inportant is LC circuit and generator. And that very hard find exatly needed frenquency. Need with two potiontiometers for example 200 kiloom and 20 kiloom for tune. But very hard find needed frenquency.

  Many of the 220v 3watt bulbs can be lit on 110v.  The car 12v potentiometers can also be used when working with 12v input sources. They don't burn out as easily as the smaller trim-pots can. Small variable capacitors can also easily fry, and may be hard to replace when looking for the heavy duty ones for higher outputs.
  But, if the guy had a self runner, that is unusual. And, that it's not easy to find the right frequency, is also becoming more known each day, which is not making it any easier to obtain the needed results.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1631 on: May 24, 2013, 09:40:04 PM »
    MenofFather:
   Might be a zener diode, but might not be, also. Why are they facing towards each other? Is this really a common way to protect the Fets?  I don't use Fets, so I don't know...  As they can easily fry out, especially when allowing  them to get the high current back emf pulses 1:10 to deal with, as Ismael is mentioning. They are fast switching, but are also weak. Seams to me that special high current and high voltage diodes are what is needed.  No?

Nick,

A typical max mosfet gate voltage is 20V, so zeners are used to protect from transients in either direction that could damage the mosfet. These are typically rated at 12V, 15V or 18V breakdown.

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« Reply #1632 on: May 24, 2013, 09:50:42 PM »
  Yes, thank you.  But my question is why are the diodes facing each other? Is this typical, or not?  And if not, then what does that mean? Are they helping to make the charges buck each other, or just to protect the Fets?
Because, if there are not opposing primary coils, then this may be another way to obtain the bucking mode objective. Or not?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1633 on: May 24, 2013, 10:00:02 PM »
Nick,

A typical max mosfet gate voltage is 20V, so zeners are used to protect from transients in either direction that could damage the mosfet. These are typically rated at 12V, 15V or 18V breakdown.

Evening Hoppy.

How do you think a Zenner would stand up to crowbaring for the Ismael device? If you were able to bring up the voltage to just around the threshold of reverse it would conduct for a short period of time before going back to blocking as the sine wave decreased. Just a thought :)

Cheers Grum.

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« Reply #1634 on: May 24, 2013, 10:25:16 PM »
  Yes, thank you.  But my question is why are the diodes facing each other? Is this typical, or not?  And if not, then what does that mean? Are they helping to make the charges buck each other, or just to protect the Fets?
Because, if there are not opposing primary coils, then this may be another way to obtain the bucking mode objective. Or not?

Take a look at page 2 of this link to this data sheet of a mosfet that has an inbuilt back-to-back zeners plus an explanation of their purpose.