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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 10440474 times)

Offline T-1000

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1560 on: May 23, 2013, 12:28:27 PM »
@T1000,

From the information you are giving, I assume that you have proved the energy gain from experimenting with this shorting of transformer winding concept. Please provide a schematic of what you are proposing if different from that posted by Verpies. As you are aware an increase in voltage from coil discharge (BEMF relates to motors not oscillators) does not necessarily mean a gain in output over input energy levels.
Please repeat Ismael Aviso circuit then share results instead. You have all concept explained now so after test results we can talk.

Offline verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1561 on: May 23, 2013, 12:46:49 PM »
It is still not clear what to repeat.
My schematic and my waveforms have not been corrected nor amended nor confirmed nor denied.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1562 on: May 23, 2013, 12:53:14 PM »

I guess T-1000 means something like this;

Regards Itsu

Editted:  changed diagram.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1563 on: May 23, 2013, 01:47:21 PM »
I guess T-1000 means something like this;

Regards Itsu

Yes, this is a direct representation of the Aviso circuit.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1564 on: May 23, 2013, 02:13:23 PM »
Yes, this is a direct representation of the Aviso circuit.
I hope T-1000 will confirm if this is what he had in mind.

Note, that according to the waveforms for small W1 inductances, when the switch S2 closes (0Ω) for a very short time, the current flowing in the W1 primary is zero. (flux in T1 is zero, too).

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1565 on: May 23, 2013, 03:50:01 PM »
I guess T-1000 means something like this;

Regards Itsu

Editted:  changed diagram.
Youp, that fits concept for seeing what is happening after shorting on peaks. Ismael did capacitor disconnect from source after pulse then unloaded it into motor (which makes explosive discharge) then reconnected back for second pulse.

I think this is simplest approach what you can have before going to play with coils and injecting HV into this circuit. When you will have test results there will be more understanding in what I posted here from http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/975/

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1566 on: May 23, 2013, 03:58:41 PM »
I don't know if its that I am getting better at absorbing concepts or if Ismael just has a way of making things more clear in my mind...but I've now reached the stage where I can now start trying things.

Finally

Regards...



Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1567 on: May 23, 2013, 05:15:29 PM »
  Akula is already using a 12v to 220v 400watt commercial DC to AC inverter, then possibly rectifying AC back to Dc, and sending that to his homemade circuit board. That small circuit is being used as a driver for the yoke circuit.  There is a single iron core toroid on the small bread board with only one winding on it, two trim pots, for adjusting voltage, and possibly also the frequency, some caps and Fets, and a single Led indicator light, among other things. So, it's an adjustable pulse circuit. 
  To me the magic may lie in just what that pulse circuit does with the yoke's primary 12 and 12 turn center tapped coil. I also feel that the yoke must receive some kind of high voltage and current, otherwise there would be close to nothing at the output end of the 3 turn coil. We could probably figure out just how much voltage and current it would take for the yokes 3 turn coil to output only 50 volts, but the current output is still unknown.
  Lets just for now say, that this pulse circuit is possibly what may account for the anomaly found in the rest of the circuit, which to me the rest of the circuit is too simple to be of much importance, in the cause of this  unknown effect. Although the air coil's inner choke circuit, may or may not be needed, at all.
In anycase, the choke being just a coil and cap, is NOT how Hendershot had his inner choke circuit set up, as it was also connected by wires, to an outside transformer, also.
  Just some thoughts to toss around...



Offline truesearch

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1568 on: May 23, 2013, 05:18:51 PM »
@Cap-Z-ro:


If you have ideas and going to do experiments based on Ismael's work, please start a thread and share your progress  :D


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1569 on: May 23, 2013, 06:24:43 PM »
  Akula is already using a 12v to 220v 400watt commercial DC to AC inverter, then possibly rectifying AC back to Dc, and sending that to his homemade circuit board. That small circuit is being used as a driver for the yoke circuit.  There is a single iron core toroid on the small bread board with only one winding on it, two trim pots, for adjusting voltage, and possibly also the frequency, some caps and Fets, and a single Led indicator light, among other things. So, it's an adjustable pulse circuit. 
  To me the magic may lie in just what that pulse circuit does with the yoke's primary 12 and 12 turn center tapped coil. I also feel that the yoke must receive some kind of high voltage and current, otherwise there would be close to nothing at the output end of the 3 turn coil. We could probably figure out just how much voltage and current it would take for the yokes 3 turn coil to output only 50 volts, but the current output is still unknown.
  Lets just for now say, that this pulse circuit is possibly what may account for the anomaly found in the rest of the circuit, which to me the rest of the circuit is too simple to be of much importance, in the cause of this  unknown effect. Although the air coil's inner choke circuit, may or may not be needed, at all.
In anycase, the choke being just a coil and cap, is NOT how Hendershot had his inner choke circuit set up, as it was also connected by wires, to an outside transformer, also.
  Just some thoughts to toss around...
Nickz
This is my assumption circuit. Please refer this circuit diagram. I have doubt about L4 winding connection..Check this and make some correction....

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1570 on: May 23, 2013, 06:39:56 PM »
Nickz
This is my assumption circuit. Please refer this circuit diagram. I have doubt about L4 winding connection..Check this and make some correction....
There some incorects. Здесь явные ошибки. He say and show that white wire one end go to lamps, other end go to graund, minus of electronics and to lamps. And say that 220 volts go to keys, keys he means mosfets.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1571 on: May 23, 2013, 06:53:36 PM »
Evening All.

Has it occured to anyone that this coil shorting method could be the source of the "mystery" noise in TK's devices? Apparently if this method is used at higher frequencies an even better output is achieved.

So to practicallity... How can we "crowbar" this transformer at the right moment in time. As Ismael has noted the internal resistance of any semiconductor is not ideal so he placed many in shunt mode to reduce the overall resistance. Obviously mechanical shorting could be used but this also would have difficulties in synchronisation with the waveform. But I am sure I have read elsewhere that TK used "Car points" in one of his devices??

So, an open question to all the electronics buff's. Who can design a circuit??

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1572 on: May 23, 2013, 06:54:57 PM »
I draw only one mosfet to easy draw and understand. I think possible make and with one mosfet probrally. There punctire capasitor I not shore or it needed but think probarly needed. Duty cycle going to mosfet about 1-40 precents I think.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1573 on: May 23, 2013, 06:59:15 PM »
Youp, that fits concept for seeing what is happening after shorting on peaks.
On which peaks shown on this diagram (red, blue, pink), should the secondary be shorted by the switch S2 ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1574 on: May 23, 2013, 07:15:37 PM »
Evening All.

Has it occured to anyone that this coil shorting method could be the source of the "mystery" noise in TK's devices? Apparently if this method is used at higher frequencies an even better output is achieved.

So to practicallity... How can we "crowbar" this transformer at the right moment in time. As Ismael has noted the internal resistance of any semiconductor is not ideal so he placed many in shunt mode to reduce the overall resistance. Obviously mechanical shorting could be used but this also would have difficulties in synchronisation with the waveform. But I am sure I have read elsewhere that TK used "Car points" in one of his devices??

So, an open question to all the electronics buff's. Who can design a circuit??

Cheers Grum.

Evening Grum,

It has been suggested to me that the mystery noise could have been as a result of two seprarate 50Hz supplies (one from the grid and another from an inverter being combined into a transformer. The inverter output into the primary and the grid supply into the secondary. At certain times at switch-on, the supplies will be sufficiently out of phase as to cause the noise. I have thought carefully about this and this fits how I think the 'Green Box' device is constructed.