Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11869750 times)

Farmhand · « **Reply #1590 on:** May 24, 2013, 12:24:43 AM »

Quote from: verpies on May 23, 2013, 08:31:26 PM

Good, now we are communicating.

According to conventional circuit theory, briefly closing the switch (S2) at the peaks of the secondary voltage waveform (pink) should not charge the capacitor C2 to a voltage higher than V1 when S2 opens, because when the pink waveform is at its maximum then the blue waveform is at zero. ( I_PRI ∝ dv_sec/dt )
Since the blue waveform represents current in the primary, that means that no current flows in the primary when S1 closes and that also means that magnetic flux in T1 is zero, as well, thus no magnetic energy is stored in T1.
This means that a flyback pulse should not be generated.

Hence if C2 charges to more than V1 then we'd have a violation of conventional circuit theory and an anomaly.

P.S.

Don't misunderstand me as refusing to test this anomaly just because it cannot work according to conventional circuit theory.

I would agree with Verpies that if done right at the zero crossings the flux ought to be zero except for hysteresis, but the actual shorting would be done just before the zero crossing till just after. Still in a transformer I don't think that would be all that beneficial. And nothing short of properly measuring the input and output both when doing it and not would show the real result.

Sorry if I missed it but is there a video showing the effect and the results or is it just a theory or claim with no actual measured results shown ? If there is a video just say and I can find it myself.

I just don't get the shorting of coils thing. I would prefer to experiment with generator connected load switching.

But I'm always interested to check things out.

Cheers

verpies · « **Reply #1591 on:** May 24, 2013, 01:20:22 AM »

Quote from: Farmhand on May 24, 2013, 12:24:43 AM

Sorry if I missed it but is there a video showing the effect and the results or is it just a theory or claim with no actual measured results shown ? If there is a video just say and I can find it myself.

T-1000 is the proponent of this idea and he knows some videos of the process. It's best you ask him where to find them.

I think he also suggested, that this method can be improved by adding a high voltage pulse (V2+S2) to the secondary instead of merely shorting it with S2.
See the attached schematic (...and don't forget to ask him about the polarity of V2 ).

Quote from: Farmhand on May 24, 2013, 12:24:43 AM

I just don't get the shorting of coils thing.

Neither do I, unless I consider the short pulse as a broadband pulse used to stimulate beta current in some Gain Medium (matter) via NMR.

Regardless of the M.O. ,the circuit is simple enough to test for a violation of the conventional circuit theory, by trying whether there is a flyback pulse at all when S2 opens and whether C2 becomes charged higher than V1 (assuming 1:1 turn ratio of T1).

Quote from: Farmhand on May 24, 2013, 12:24:43 AM

...if done right at the zero crossings the flux ought to be zero except for hysteresis, but the actual shorting would be done just before the zero crossing till just after.

Yes, and the shorter the pulse, the less flux change inside its time interval.

Quote from: Farmhand on May 24, 2013, 12:24:43 AM

Still in a transformer I don't think that would be all that beneficial. And nothing short of properly measuring the input and output both when doing it and not would show the real result.

Yes, such pulsing of a normal transformer will not be beneficial according to the conventional wisdom of transformer action.
Notice that the secondary voltage waveform (pink) is at its maximum, when the primary current is zero (blue).
Closing S2 at this peak should immediately kill this secondary voltage (pink) with negligible current flowing through S2. Some people may find it strange.

However if there is an anomaly, then it will manifest itself as C2 getting charged to much higher voltage than V1.

NickZ · « **Reply #1592 on:** May 24, 2013, 05:53:31 AM »

Ok, I think that MenofFather will understand why I'm posting the video below, which is a UFO politics idea, but is replicated by Woopyjump. Using a single IRF460 instead of 4 to 6 of those Fets as is shown by UFO previously in a different video. Maybe Verpies will even like the scope shots, and how they are altered by the use of the two trim pots, one for duty cycle, and the second for frequency adjustments. Similar to what Akula may be doing.
Video by Woppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyOlJERlYK8

I also wanted to post these first two pictures, so that you can see the similarities of my 65watt Cfl pulse circuit, and the Akula pulse circuit. Although mine is not adjustable with two pots as his is, and uses an e-core transformer instead of the single wind iron core toroid, but it could be made adjustable like his, if needed, also.
Third pic: Also notice that the yoke circuit with the induction heater (and wrench heating), is not the same yoke as is used later on, but look at how the connections of the IN4148 diodes on the fets (on the heat-sinks) are facing each other. And how the power lines feeding the driver circuit is most likely 220v, to the brown ceramic caps on his pulse circuit which drop that voltage to the right values, then the driver feeds the yoke at the center tap point, the two other ends or the red wires come back to the two fets mounted on the heat sinks.
What is going on there???
Anyways, Woppy's video may help to understand what may be happening.

Сергей В. · « **Reply #1593 on:** May 24, 2013, 06:12:52 AM »

Сверх-силы отталкивания
(Ismael Aviso Successful Replication of Overpower repulsion by Дмитрий)

Катушка Снаряд имеет вес - 700 гр .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vM4IN8UuHM

Снаряд - 800 гр . (Coil Bullet weight 800.gr - Altitude 25 meter over earth) Smaller coil bullet weight 100 gr. has altitude between 60-70 met.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95lnKTC-Kd8

СЕ первые потуги (OU first attempts coil shorting on peak)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql99yAlCU_8

Вот же схема опыту Дмитрия из видеофильма по замыканию в пике. По схеме : диод D1 составной, из 120 диодов FR207 в параллель, дело в том что на тот момент у Дмитрия не было возможности использовать двунаправленный составной ключ для замыкания, по этому ему пришлось использовать диод D1 для шунтирования внутреннего паразитного диода в составном транзисторе VT1. 120 набрано в параллель для уменьшения сопротивления диода в открытом состоянии, лучше конечно делать двунаправленный ключ. Катушка L1 основная, которая насилуется замыканием ключа, катушка L2 зондирующая, фазированная с основной в одной фазе . Компаратор выполняет роль формирователя управляющего импульса замыкания, сравнивая опорное напряжение с инвертированного входа с пульсирующем напряжением на прямом входе,изменяя потенциал на инвертированном входе резистором R2, изменится и длительность управляющего импульса.

Схему драйвера Дмитрия привёл, правда компаратор в чистую не потянет вход драйвера, для этого между драйвером и компаратор нужно поставить предварь на двух ключах, ну или кому уже как. Вот так вот.

MenofFather · « **Reply #1594 on:** May 24, 2013, 08:10:55 AM »

Here how need maybe with very short impulses beet per sine in LC circuit, who is in other coil, beet need with tick inductor of few turns. LC circut feeded with other generator, maybe can use ZVS driver, o r in Dally it is 5 kiloherc coil and then LC circuit in other coil.

verpies · « **Reply #1595 on:** May 24, 2013, 08:48:07 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on May 24, 2013, 05:53:31 AM

Maybe Verpies will even like the scope shots, and how they are altered by the use of the two trim pots, one for duty cycle, and the second for frequency adjustments. Similar to what Akula may be doing. Video by Woppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyOlJERlYK8

The scopeshots show conventional circuit behavior and a waveform of LC ringing with probe's capacitance. It was a mistake to take that voltage waveform reading without a resistive load in place of the light bulb.

verpies · « **Reply #1596 on:** May 24, 2013, 08:50:33 AM »

Quote from: Сергей В. on May 24, 2013, 06:12:52 AM

СЕ первые потуги (OU first attempts coil shorting on peak)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql99yAlCU_8

That video does not play.

MenofFather · « **Reply #1597 on:** May 24, 2013, 10:19:03 AM »

Quote from: Сергей В. on May 24, 2013, 06:12:52 AM

Сверх-силы отталкивания
(Ismael Aviso Successful Replication of Overpower repulsion by Дмитрий)

Катушка Снаряд имеет вес - 700 гр .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vM4IN8UuHM

Снаряд - 800 гр . (Coil Bullet weight 800.gr - Altitude 25 meter over earth) Smaller coil bullet weight 100 gr. has altitude between 60-70 met.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95lnKTC-Kd8

СЕ первые потуги (OU first attempts coil shorting on peak)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql99yAlCU_8

Вот же схема опыту Дмитрия из видеофильма по замыканию в пике. По схеме : диод D1 составной, из 120 диодов FR207 в параллель, дело в том что на тот момент у Дмитрия не было возможности использовать двунаправленный составной ключ для замыкания, по этому ему пришлось использовать диод D1 для шунтирования внутреннего паразитного диода в составном транзисторе VT1. 120 набрано в параллель для уменьшения сопротивления диода в открытом состоянии, лучше конечно делать двунаправленный ключ. Катушка L1 основная, которая насилуется замыканием ключа, катушка L2 зондирующая, фазированная с основной в одной фазе . Компаратор выполняет роль формирователя управляющего импульса замыкания, сравнивая опорное напряжение с инвертированного входа с пульсирующем напряжением на прямом входе,изменяя потенциал на инвертированном входе резистором R2, изменится и длительность управляющего импульса.

Схему драйвера Дмитрия привёл, правда компаратор в чистую не потянет вход драйвера, для этого между драйвером и компаратор нужно поставить предварь на двух ключах, ну или кому уже как. Вот так вот.

Ничего в основном не понятно. От чего происходит такой выстрел? От подсоединения конденсатора когда по синусу уские импульсы бъёт или от чего?

Hoppy · « **Reply #1598 on:** May 24, 2013, 10:25:11 AM »

Quote from: Farmhand on May 24, 2013, 12:24:43 AM

I would agree with Verpies that if done right at the zero crossings the flux ought to be zero except for hysteresis, but the actual shorting would be done just before the zero crossing till just after. Still in a transformer I don't think that would be all that beneficial. And nothing short of properly measuring the input and output both when doing it and not would show the real result.

Cheers

Agreed. Extensive experimenting with Bedini energiser wheels fitted with generator coil(s) will show that any loading of the wheel by the generator coil(s) results in a change in overall input v output energy levels and is not 'free' as Bedini teaches. When the resulting energy collected in a storage cap is pulse discharged back into the battery that is powering the wheel during a drive pulse 'off' period, the effect of this is to affect the battery chemistry, such that increased run time is achieved through increased battery capacity as a result of the cap discharge 'spikes' desulfating the battery.

My understanding is that Aviso cleverly takes energy from the rotor with minimum loading and uses the stored energy in his cap bank to effectively increase the capacity of his large battery bank 'on the fly'. IMO Bedini is correct in saying that any energy gain is manifested in the battery through increased capacity due to time compressed 'spike' conditioning of the battery plates. He may also be right about environmental energy being 'drawn-in' / 'sucked-in' to the system, although I doubt this.

T-1000 · « **Reply #1599 on:** May 24, 2013, 10:26:17 AM »

Quote from: verpies on May 23, 2013, 08:31:26 PM

Good, now we are communicating.

According to conventional circuit theory, briefly closing the switch (S2) at the peaks of the secondary voltage waveform (pink) should not charge the capacitor C2 to a voltage higher than V1 when S2 opens, because when the pink waveform is at its maximum then the blue waveform is at zero. ( I_PRI ∝ dv_sec/dt )
Since the blue waveform represents current in the primary, that means that no current flows in the primary when S1 closes and that also means that magnetic flux in T1 is zero, as well, thus no magnetic energy is stored in T1.
This means that a flyback pulse should not be generated.

Hence if C2 charges to more than V1 then we'd have a violation of conventional circuit theory and an anomaly.

P.S.
Don't misunderstand me as refusing to test this anomaly just because it cannot work according to conventional circuit theory.

Quote from: Сергей В. on May 24, 2013, 06:12:52 AM

СЕ первые потуги (OU first attempts coil shorting on peak)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql99yAlCU_8

It is not conventional model as you never do coil shorting in any way. Thanks Сергей for the link to somone's experiment on this so now you guys can see real scope shot:

Hoppy · « **Reply #1600 on:** May 24, 2013, 10:41:20 AM »

Quote from: T-1000 on May 24, 2013, 10:26:17 AM

It is not conventional model as you never do coil shorting in any way. Thanks Сергей for the link to somone's experiment on this so now you guys can see real scope shot:

Please give your interpretation of this waveform.

T-1000 · « **Reply #1601 on:** May 24, 2013, 10:46:43 AM »

Quote from: Hoppy on May 24, 2013, 10:41:20 AM

Please give your interpretation of this waveform.

Well, it was already described in http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/dlattach/attach/124000/image//
Just voltage won't be pure sine wave after this.

Hoppy · « **Reply #1602 on:** May 24, 2013, 10:57:41 AM »

Quote from: T-1000 on May 24, 2013, 10:46:43 AM

Well, it was already described in http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/dlattach/attach/124000/image//
Just voltage won't be pure sine wave after this.

Do you think that the energy level in the 'out of resonance' segment of the waveform captured in the storage cap as a DC voltage level exceeds the energy level of that same segment of the waveform had it not been shorted?

Как вы думаете, что уровень энергии в 'из резонанса "сегмент сигнала захваченных в колпачок для хранения как уровень напряжения постоянного тока превышают уровень энергии в том же сегменте сигнала, если бы не замкнут?

Ar manote, kad energijos lygis "iš rezonanso" segmento signalo fiksuojami saugojimo dangtelis kaip nuolatinės įtampos lygis viršija energijos lygį tame pačiame segmente signalo nebūtų buvę trumpuoju?

verpies · « **Reply #1603 on:** May 24, 2013, 11:01:15 AM »

Quote from: MenofFather on May 24, 2013, 10:19:03 AM

Ничего в основном не понятно. От чего происходит такой выстрел? От подсоединения конденсатора когда по синусу уские импульсы бъёт или от чего?

That's a manifestation of the Lenz law with repelling eddy currents in the metal plate, induced by the high dΦ/dt of the coil.

TinselKoala · « **Reply #1604 on:** May 24, 2013, 11:04:18 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on May 24, 2013, 05:53:31 AM

Ok, I think that MenofFather will understand why I'm posting the video below, which is a UFO politics idea, but is replicated by Woopyjump. Using a single IRF460 instead of 4 to 6 of those Fets as is shown by UFO previously in a different video. Maybe Verpies will even like the scope shots, and how they are altered by the use of the two trim pots, one for duty cycle, and the second for frequency adjustments. Similar to what Akula may be doing.
Video by Woppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyOlJERlYK8

I also wanted to post these first two pictures, so that you can see the similarities of my 65watt Cfl pulse circuit, and the Akula pulse circuit. Although mine is not adjustable with two pots as his is, and uses an e-core transformer instead of the single wind iron core toroid, but it could be made adjustable like his, if needed, also.
Third pic: Also notice that the yoke circuit with the induction heater (and wrench heating), is not the same yoke as is used later on, but look at how the connections of the IN4148 diodes on the fets (on the heat-sinks) are facing each other. And how the power lines feeding the driver circuit is most likely 220v, to the brown ceramic caps on his pulse circuit which drop that voltage to the right values, then the driver feeds the yoke at the center tap point, the two other ends or the red wires come back to the two fets mounted on the heat sinks.
What is going on there???
Anyways, Woppy's video may help to understand what may be happening.

The diodes facing each other from Gate to Source on the mosfets are most probably not 1n4148, but rather are 12 or 15 volt Zeners. This is a common thing to do when using mosfets, to protect the gate from overvoltage spikes. It's sort of a gate voltage regulator. I can't think of any reason that one would use a small signal switching diode here, but it makes good sense to use Zeners.
The red wires from the yoke appear to go to the mosfet drains (middle pins) and the blue wires from the driver go to the sources (rightmost pin). The other diodes and cap on the mosfets: one is probably a Schottky diode to supplement the mosfet's body diode, between source and drain, to keep the mosfet cool.
The cap, other diode and resistor together I'm not so sure about.

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