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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11848807 times)

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1260 on: May 08, 2013, 02:04:55 AM »

   Quote from T-1000:
   it included 2 parametric circuits with opposite polarity connected together and each leg involves resonance in parallel+standing wave+resonance in series creating surge right on standing wave pin point where Voltage from one coil meets Amperage from another and generates excessive effect...
 
   What does this mean, I've heard you say it many times, but I don't understand how to do it. Can you draw a diagram and be more specific???
   I'm not concerned about the self running aspect for now, but,  to focus on the actual cause of making a big output, from a small input source. Who, if anyone, has done what you are mentioning?

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« Reply #1261 on: May 08, 2013, 02:08:29 AM »
Possibly the 5 uF  AC run cap on the yoke circuit is acting as a spark gap, this I'm fairly sure of, there may also be needed a diode there, on that circuit. Then, what is happening at the big air coil? Everything there would be working as in normal inductance mode, even though the big secondary coil is going from the ground connection to the bulbs, that in itself is NOT a big eye opener. EXCEPT, for that choke and cap circuit in isolation, in the center of it with the aluminum sheeting, next to it.  Hendershot style.

Nick: I already described in detail how the primary circuit is working in the previous Akula video in Reply #1242, a few posts back. There is nothing particularly special with driving the primary this way. I also explained how you would likely have to tune the choke and parallel capacitor in that same post. Nothing too mysterious there that I can see.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1262 on: May 08, 2013, 02:10:24 AM »
   T-1000, Verpies, and All:
   I think that we really need to focus on what is making these devices work.  Let's just forget about the voltage source, inverter, and first rectifier, for now. As well as the feed back coil, cap, and second inverter. As these are not what is making this device produce an unconventional output. So, what is left? That is what we need to look into...

I tried to explain all these circumstances from my point of view what might make devices work (that still needs hard evidence with independed experiment) starting with post in http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg357338/#msg357338

From my view what is essential is to have there 5 things at once - resonance on paralel(L1C1) in primary, feedback from secondary to flip-flop circuit for breaking power input when secondary is starting to draw current so coils stop affecting power source, on the same air coil to have quarter wave resonant frequency between choke and secondary(L2C3L3) and resonance on same frequency on seeries and most important - creating standing wave between choke L2 as voltage source and L3 as current source. From the point where they both make standing wave you have shockwave what needs to be utilized by the load.
These all conditions are critical and need to be precise so with this environment you create something what is not in conventional physics...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1263 on: May 08, 2013, 03:22:52 AM »
  Guys:
   Void, and T-1000, thanks for your input.
   But, what we really need is some hard evidence, diagram, and hands on example of our opinions, as a back up to the proof of concept, theory, or ideas.
   Has anyone got anything that would prove the point, an example of such a device.
  We can all state how we think it should work, like L1/C1 needs to be in resonance, etz... but how do we do this, exactly, exact parts, and configuration, and know that such is indeed what is needed.  Do you get what I'm saying?  We can theorize all  day long, but just exactly how is this done, is what is needed at this time. Over a thousand pages of theories have not gotten us anywhere, yet.
  Some kind of proof of concept, showing small input/big output.
  I know that it's not easy.  But...

  EDIT:  Void, I just read you post that you mention in your last post. I had missed it before, I will consider it.
   Ramset:  I had also missed your post.  Thanks for the advice. Sometimes my patience is not what it should be.

   Quote from T-1000: 
"while trying to understand what are working principles over experiments done by various people over time including reproducing NMR effect by myself but my personal goal was not to go and consume another matter as fuel but use N. Tesla type of technology where we have resonances on matter + standing waves and that can work for much cleaner way than device with NMR based energy production".  End quote.

  I really have to agree with your "personal goal", as it is also mine. As I feel that after watching my father working in a nuclear radiation lab, for years, that radiation in any form (even from cell phone, etz...) is what I would consider not desirable. Or its future consequences, and disposal once discarded, as it's true dangers may not really be known, for years to come. Then may be too late, for some of us. 
  Also,  I don't feel that it is similar in any way to how nature works, at all.   My personal opinion.

 


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1264 on: May 08, 2013, 04:36:26 AM »
  Void, I just read you post that you mention in your last post. I had missed it before, I will consider it.

Hi Nick. What I am talking about with the primary series resonant circuit and how the choke would likely be tuned is not theory. I was basing my comments on the hand drawn schematic which Akula's previous demo board seemed to follow fairly closely. In a prior video Akula showed some tests with driving a series resonant circuit and how it produced high current. This is the same primary circuit configuration used in the hand drawn schematic as well. Since Akula seems to have followed the hand drawn schematic fairly closely (except for maybe some parts the main coil configuration), then I am pretty certain that is how he set up the primary circuit in the previous Akula demo video.

Using a series resonant circuit for the primary circuit would require that your transistor driver circuit be frequency adjustable. You would have to set the frequency of the transistor driver circuit to run right at the resonant frequency of the series resonant primary circuit. This resonant frequency is easy to find if you have an adjustable sinewave generator and an oscilloscope. If you don't have an oscilloscope, you could use a clamp on type ammeter over a wire in the primary circuit and adjust the transistor driver frequency until you read maximum current. You don't need to care about an accurate current reading as you are just adjusting for maximum current flow in the primary series circuit. If you don't have a frequency adjustable transistor driver circuit, then it will be tougher to tune. You would have to vary either the total inductance of the windings or change the series capacitor value, to make the primary resonant frequency match your transistor driver frequency . That is not so easy as just adjusting the frequency of your transistor driver to match the primary resonant frequency.

If the choke coil in the main coil assembly is parallel to a capacitor as shown in the hand drawn schematic (tank circuit), then this parallel tank circuit would probably be tuned to the exact same frequency that you are driving the primary at, which is the primary's series resonant frequency. It looks like the main output coil secondary winding in the hand drawn schematic is not tuned for resonance, and so the goal with it may well be to just wind it with magnet wire with a whole lot of turns so it steps up the secondary voltage to a high enough voltage to light the lights even when the lights are connected in.

That all seems fairly straight forward over all. So what might make the circuit produce over unity then? Well, the choke coil configured for parallel resonance with a capacitor and with the choke coil placed inside the other coils might contribute to some sort of boost in performance, but it would be hard to see how that might give over unity by itself. That aluminum sheeting that is wrapped around the coil form, which is between the choke coil and all the other coils, might be contributing something unusual to the whole arrangement, but who knows.

I think the best approach to try to set this up would be to build a frequency adjustable transistor driver circuit so you can easily drive the primary series circuit right at its exact resonant frequency. This resonant frequency may change a bit when you add or make changes to the other coils, so having a frequency adjustable driver would allow you to fine tune the driver frequency as you make any other changes to the whole coil assembly. Once you get your coils wound and you find the right driver frequency, you would then tune the choke and parallel capacitor to match the driver frequency you are using. There may be a bit of a back and forth there as you tune up the choke tank circuit, as it may impact the primary resonant frequency as you change the choke tank circuit tuning. Having a frequency adjustable driver circuit would make the tuning much easier here as well.

The question I would have is, is that aluminum sheeting connected to anything such as another coil, or is it just placed in there with no connection? Without having more specific details I think the best you could do there is experiment with a few different ways to connect the aluminum sheeting in, and compare to leaving it unconnected. I will see if I can find some time to do some experiments with this sort of setup over the next month or so. I am also interested in trying this out. :)








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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1265 on: May 08, 2013, 05:19:08 AM »
  Quote from Void.
   I will see if I can find some time to do some experiments with this sort of setup over the next month or so. I am also interested in trying this out".

  That, would be swell.  I understand what you are saying, but, I will have to leave the frequency adjustment for those who have the needed equipment and tune-able frequency driver, that you mention.
  I have a 65 watt Cfl bulb driver, 110v, and unknown amp circuit that I can use, that I had previously shown a picture of. And I can also adjust frequencies using ferrite rods, magnets, and different winding counts, etz... But, can't just go buy various specs of AC caps, that may or may not work, to test out. Therefore what is needed, in my case, is a diagram with exact wire type, wire count, cap specs, and wiring diagram.  In the mean time, I'm doing what I can with what I have, and as mentioned previouly, no budget to work with, although I do have some discarded stuff that I can use. As my lab is my kitchen table, as Akula's is a small table in the corner of a room, I will do all I can with what I have and can obtain.
 The trick is to obtain more out than in, while using or harvesting a magnetic current, that may possibly be different than anything we have previously worked with, like cold electricity, instead of hot dangerous or radioactive stuff. And after viewing the SR 193 video, again, I'm more convinced that it may really be possible.
  Thanks again, your contributions are much appreciated.
                                                                                          Nick
 

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1266 on: May 08, 2013, 07:09:41 AM »
  quote:
  " You would have to set the frequency of the transistor driver circuit to run right at the resonant frequency of the series resonant primary circuit."

  Ok, I get that. Maybe the transistor, or drive circuit output, can also be frequency tuned by using an AC wall dimmer, along with variable capacitor from a radio, etz... and the light output from the leds (that I use on top of the small inductors) can be used as indicator lights, which can help to tune for the higher output. 
Just a thought.
 Otherwise, I know that this may all be like trying to find a radio station, on a radio that has no tuning knob.

  EDIT: After I posted the comments above, I found this in another forum. It is from a Tariel Kapanadze patent, and I thought that it would also fit in well right here:



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1267 on: May 08, 2013, 11:19:15 AM »
To recap then, with the various interesting possibilities:
1) The real McCoy (with MIB on their way!).
2) Faked with a multi-core black cable with hidden connections to the white cable going to the house.
3) Faked using a partially hidden 'X' wire run almost out of sight along the earth in the garden close to the concrete slab.
4) Faked using a one-wire transmission system.
5) Faked with large batteries hidden in those large plastic boxes.

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« Reply #1268 on: May 08, 2013, 04:54:08 PM »
  Well then, with that overwhelming evidence, it looks like you guys have more than enough proof to start your own thread now.
  So that the people who would really like to move along and further advance on these threads, can do so without any more negative, disruptive, and ludicrous comments. Your true intentions must be now just to troll.
So it seams...

                                               "Don't feed the TROLLS"
 
    New thread:

   "ALL FAKE KAPANADZE REPLICATIONS".


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1269 on: May 08, 2013, 05:36:03 PM »
 Quote: from Void:
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The question I would have is, is that aluminum sheeting connected to anything such as another coil, or is it just placed in there with no connection? Without having more specific details I think the best you could do there is experiment with a few different ways to connect the aluminum sheeting in, and compare to leaving it unconnected."

  That is what I've been doing, and will continue to do so. The hand drawn diagram is showing that choke by itself, not connected to anything other than the cap. But, having the right cap to work with is not easy for me, as I have no idea which one may work. I have tried several that I have on had, but so far, no cigar. That diagram was made for the first (or older) replication. But, I don't have any AC caps, other than start caps, yet, and they don't work. This I've proven to myself.
  I have the yoke wound in the same direction, not opposing winds, which I will correct today.

  It looks to me that the effect generation is due to magnetic energy. which will not follow the same normal induction, transformer, laws. And will possibly NOT shock, as well. I hope. Just look how in the replications they are showing these guys touching even the spark gap, or any part of the circuit. That should be an eye opener.
I'd like to see someone do that with an x-wire or batteries, and make 1000 watts of bulbs light, then touch the spark gap. Ha!

  Void, do you understand Russian?  I wish that I did...
 



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« Reply #1270 on: May 08, 2013, 08:55:37 PM »
After I posted the comments above, I found this in another forum. It is from a Tariel Kapanadze patent, and I thought that it would also fit in well right here:

It is common practice in many patent applications to write about the device and how it works in very obscure terms, to make it hard for people to figure out exactly how to replicate the device. This also seems to have been done in the Kapanadze patent applications. I can't make out a whole lot out of what is said in the Kapanadze patents applications, although I should probably read through them again and see if can get at least some idea of how his devices are supposed to work. It is mostly indecipherable to me however. :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1271 on: May 08, 2013, 09:05:44 PM »
That is what I've been doing, and will continue to do so. The hand drawn diagram is showing that choke by itself, not connected to anything other than the cap. But, having the right cap to work with is not easy for me, as I have no idea which one may work. I have tried several that I have on had, but so far, no cigar. That diagram was made for the first (or older) replication. But, I don't have any AC caps, other than start caps, yet, and they don't work. This I've proven to myself.
  I have the yoke wound in the same direction, not opposing winds, which I will correct today.

  It looks to me that the effect generation is due to magnetic energy. which will not follow the same normal induction, transformer, laws. And will possibly NOT shock, as well. I hope. Just look how in the replications they are showing these guys touching even the spark gap, or any part of the circuit. That should be an eye opener.
I'd like to see someone do that with an x-wire or batteries, and make 1000 watts of bulbs light, then touch the spark gap. Ha!
  Void, do you understand Russian?  I wish that I did...

For choosing the caps for the primary circuit and choke tank circuit, you want caps that are non-polarized and which have a high enough voltage rating for the voltage they will have on them. For the choke tank circuit arrangement, you may need a cap with a voltage rating in the kilovolts area. It just depends on high the voltage is going to be on the cap.
You also would want caps that have a high current rating (low ESR). The second requirement if you are aiming for a specific resonant frequency is to choose a capacitance value that will give the desired resonant frequency when connected in to whatever coil or coils the capacitor will be connected to. You can use an inductance meter to measure the inductance value of the coil that the cap will be connected to, and then use the LC resonance formula to determine the approximate value of capacitance you will need to give the resonant frequency you want. You will probably still have to do some adjustment to the coil windings to get the resonant frequency right on. There are online LC resonant frequency calculators such as this:
http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm

Unfortunately, I don't speak Russian. The following phrases should help though:
Да.
Нет.
Не берите в голову.
Капанадзе
катушка
дроссель
конденсатор
лампочка
Посмотрите, лампочка освещения.
Где водка?
Давайте выпьем водки!
на здоровые!

:)

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« Reply #1272 on: May 08, 2013, 11:14:19 PM »
Dear NickZ.

I have been following this thread quite closely of late because there are many similarities to the devices we are currently working on.

I DO have to agree with the comments that Void has recently made. One of the most important "pieces of kit" you will need to persue any of these projects is an LCR meter.

I know very well they are expensive, it took me two years to save for one. and believe it or not it was imported from the USA!! But for finding resonance easily I'm afraid you will need to get one.

I obtained most of my "kit" from a local training school. I went in "cap in hand" and explained what I was doing, but don't mention Free energy!! And believe it or not they gave me a scope and a frequency counter!! So give a few places a ring, you never know?

BTW this is the site I visit for LC resonance calcs........http://www.whatcircuits.com/lc-resonance-frequency-calculator/

All the best, Grum.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1273 on: May 08, 2013, 11:43:41 PM »
  Void:
   Read the TK patent, again,  looking for the intention of what words may not be able to clearly explain.
   It is saying, there is an individual power supply, is providing power to the first coil, which alters this given electrical energy into magnetic energy, by its turned interaction with the second coil. The frequency is adjusted by some "frequency adjusters", and then converted from the input electric power source to magnetic energy, which is then reconverted by the second "adjuster" back to electric energy, to be used.
Two coils are needed, along with two frequency adjusters.
This does not cover the feed-back path, until possibly later on.
   This is what most of the self running device replicators have been saying, in their own way. Although possibly none of them are going to just freely give that secret up, of exactly HOW its done, in all it's details. As the consequences can be, well, unknown, at best. Most are trying to make a buck at this, which I can't blame. Not a bad idea...

  I had thought that I had made a mistake in my yoke coil winding direction, but on further in inspection, its was made correctly,  and is of opposing winds. I'll continue to work on this tonight, if possible.
   


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1274 on: May 09, 2013, 12:04:53 AM »
   Grum:
   Thanks for the info, good to hear from you. Although I do appreciate your ideas and information, I am not able to follow through with it. Someday these things may come to me in any case. 
I'm good at finding my way in the dark, with my heart guiding my way, and can find my way even in the worst storms.  But, for now, I must find a horse that I can ride. As Dr. Stiffler once recommended to me.
  As you can see from my pictures, I've done quite a bit, while spending, well, Zilch.
  I will upload some more pics and videos, as soon as I can find my camera to pc cable, which is lost in my house.

  Please, don't give up on your project, we all need to get onto the real deal here, as this is not just too good to be true. It is true, and not to be ignored. Mark my works... I am a permanent fixture, not going anywhere, you'll see.
  I'll return to the other thread, when ever they stop peddling fake wares, as I can't deal with that, although they seam to get around.
                               What goes around, comes around...