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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11884341 times)

Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1245 on: May 07, 2013, 06:44:14 PM »
Look at 0:46 on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_2rinvpvrM

The wire / cable is laying under some vegetation on the garden, not on the concrete slab. The camera shot is very brief.

My guess is it is just a dead plant stalk that is laying on the ground. If it were a power wire you'd think he would completely cover it up with dirt rather than leave it exposed to the camera, but anything is possible I guess. :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1246 on: May 07, 2013, 06:48:49 PM »
My guess is it is just a dead plant stalk that is laying on the ground. If it were a power wire you'd think he would completely cover it up with dirt rather than leave it exposed to the camera, but anything is possible I guess. :)

Its a mighty long one then!  :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1247 on: May 07, 2013, 06:53:41 PM »
The wire / cable is laying under some vegetation on the garden, not on the concrete slab.
Indeed there is a 2nd white cable.
However it seems that all 4 corners of the board were lifted off the table in 2 attempts.

...but it doesn't make the demo credible anyway, since there are several liters of Hidey Holes in those plastic boxes.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1248 on: May 07, 2013, 07:03:34 PM »
The heavy black cable goes over--- after the long coiled up section--- to a pipe driven into the ground, connected by a weld to another pipe... but there's a white wire connected at the same point to the ground pipe, and this wire goes back up into the building, through the window. Can anyone think of any kind of one-wire transmission system that could bring kilowatts of power to the table? I can.

The white object or wire at 0:46 in the video can be seen to emerge, or at least join up with, the long crack in the concrete, which also runs without interruption over to the building. One leg of the table is extremely close to this crack. Is it possible that a second wire, or even just a contact (for a wire concealed in the table leg) could exist here?

The overall layout and positioning is very neat. Yet, not a meter away from the table, is a nice rectangular pile of leafy debris. I find this very odd.

And I think it's the height of sillyness and paranoia to think that there are some kind of "paid agents of suppression" posting here. Why don't they just go over there and confiscate the apparatus and the lab notes, like they "have done" so many times in the past? Or hack the YT account and vanish the videos. You are being entertained, nothing more, and the paid agents of suppression have far better things to do.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1249 on: May 07, 2013, 07:12:57 PM »
It was mentioned that one wire went inside to the "Other" similar device that runs the family Manse..............
 
It was also mentioned something "physical" is happening to the earth in this "grounding area".
 
thx
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1250 on: May 07, 2013, 07:26:53 PM »
I think you guys are reaching more than just a little to say that it is definitely a wire laying near the concrete block in the garden. :) Sure it does kind of look like a wire for a few frames, but it may well just be a few pieces of dead plant stalk laying here and there in the dirt that looks something like one continuous wire for a few frames. I think it is more likely just plant stalks, as Akula would probably have covered up the wire with dirt or weeds if it were a wire powering the demo board. Akula lifts all four corners of the demo board up from the table anyway, so that would seem to rule out a hidden power wire running up a table leg. It seems more likely that it would be a hidden battery and inverter circuit powering the lights if this is a fake, or that black ground wire (looks like a multi-wire cable) going to the well may have one or more of its wires going to hidden power wires that run up the back of the vertical well pipe. That would be another possible hidden power source. There is no doubt that any of these sort of demo videos could potentially be faked. After all, stage magicians make a living fooling people in all sorts of clever ways. This doesn't mean the videos are necessarily faked however.  :)






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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1251 on: May 07, 2013, 07:32:44 PM »
Isn't it interesting, though, that we can think of so many different ways that it might have been faked, but nobody can reproduce it without faking?

It's not necessary for a visible wire to connect to or run up the table leg. There could be a wire concealed inside the table leg, with a simple button-contact arrangement at the bottom of the leg, which then makes contact with a similar button on the ground, and this latter button could easily be wellconcealed. The same contact arrangement can be used to get power from the tabletop to the circuit, and there could easily be enough storage within the apparatus to keep the lights lit during a brief lift-up off the table.

Can you see where my contacts are in this video? I made no special effort to conceal them, and they are indeed visible at one point. I did this deliberately, to see if anyone would notice them, but I could easily have concealed them and shot the video so that they were impossible to detect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saa39OCuBy0

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1252 on: May 07, 2013, 07:48:44 PM »
a k u l a 0 0 8 3- Free Energy1150W part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTWKHoncK4




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1253 on: May 07, 2013, 08:00:27 PM »
I think you guys are reaching more than just a little to say that it is definitely a wire laying near the concrete block in the garden. :) Sure it does kind of look like a wire for a few frames, but it may well just be a few pieces of dead plant stalk laying here and there in the dirt that looks something like one continuous wire for a few frames. I think it is more likely just plant stalks, as Akula would probably have covered up the wire with dirt or weeds if it were a wire powering the demo board. Akula lifts all four corners of the demo board up from the table anyway, so that would seem to rule out a hidden power wire running up a table leg. It seems more likely that it would be a hidden battery and inverter circuit powering the lights if this is a fake, or that black ground wire (looks like a multi-wire cable) going to the well may have one or more of its wires going to hidden power wires that run up the back of the vertical well pipe. That would be another possible hidden power source. There is no doubt that any of these sort of demo videos could potentially be faked. After all, stage magicians make a living fooling people in all sorts of clever ways. This doesn't mean the videos are necessarily faked however.  :)

To recap then, with the various interesting possibilities:
1) The real McCoy (with MIB on their way!).
2) Faked with a multi-core black cable with hidden connections to the white cable going to the house.
3) Faked using a partially hidden 'X' wire run almost out of sight along the earth in the garden close to the concrete slab.
4) Faked using a one-wire transmission system.

I like Void's suggestion in 2) above as this would be a reasonably simple fake and a little similar to how the TK Green Box device was faked IMO (with the bearded guy acting as the cable jointing post  :) ). The white wire could have been used in the original MK1 version where the chair was not lifted off the ground as there was some sign of a white cable coming through the crack close to the back RHS chair leg. It is strange that a small pile of weeds were left on the concrete slab (with a big damp patch suggesting there might have been a bigger pile at some stage before the video was shot) and that the white wire along the garden was visible and covered in part by weeds but this could have been a deliberate part of the illusion to divert attention to the actual means of faking. It is equally strange that the white wire running across the concrete slab to the house and through the window was the permanent house earthing arrangement as we have been informed.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1254 on: May 07, 2013, 08:42:15 PM »
Tinsel, I am not really following you. I have been agreeing all along that these sort of videos can potentially be faked in various ways. I am just saying that this of course doesn't necessarily mean that all these videos are fakes. Sure the probability is pretty high that free energy videos in general are fakes, or the person making the video is making major errors, but to say that no one has been able to replicate something similar to the kapanadze demos makes the assumption that other replication videos like the Akula videos or the SR193 and a few other videos are all definitely fakes. It seems at least possible to me that some of these other replication videos may not be fakes unless definitely proven otherwise. :)

At any rate, I am not much interested in debating about whether these videos could be fakes, as it is already obvious to me that any of these videos could well be fakes, and that there are various ways to fake these videos. I am more interested in discussing how these circuits might be working if on the off chance they are not fakes.

Like many here I have experimented a fair bit with these sorts of coil based circuits and my impression is that if some of these circuits actually do produce over unity then it seems likely to me that there is some sort of x-factor involved here that goes beyond actual specific driving methods and coil configurations and tuning that is giving the over unity. Whether it has to do with using a copper or aluminum liner or rod or pipe, or whether it has to do with some strange reaction happening in a ferrite core or some sort of combination of a couple of different effects would be anyone's guess. This doesn't have to be anything complicated, but it may just be something that a person wouldn't normally think of when thinking about these circuits in a conventional way. Of course I know many people are going to say the missing x-factor is most likely a hidden power source, and that may be the case in at least some or all of the replication videos, but I personally still don't want to rule out the possibility, however slim a possibility that may be, that there is something people have been missing that makes these circuits produce over unity. T-1000 has suggested something like NMR or possibly developing some sort of resonance with ground currents that pulls in extra power, which may be possible, and that guy at the mountain resort in France (I forget his name) has suggested that an oxygen free copper pipe with ferrite beads around it can pull off some sort of 'particles' out of the ground which can be converted to useable electricity, although this guy's videos don't seem particularly convincing. He may just have ordinary power transfer occurring similar to the kacher videos. Anyway, does anyone have any other ideas other than the obvious hidden power source explanation of how these circuits may be producing over unity?
« Last Edit: May 08, 2013, 12:02:00 AM by Void »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1255 on: May 07, 2013, 08:51:40 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1256 on: May 07, 2013, 09:04:14 PM »
Thanks, but what about the other white wire / cable laying on the garden behind the demo table??
I not see other cabel. It is maybe same white cable. Или трещина на земле выглядит как кабель.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1257 on: May 07, 2013, 09:11:14 PM »
Look at 0:46 on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_2rinvpvrM

The wire / cable is laying under some vegetation on the garden, not on the concrete slab. The camera shot is very brief.
Is not cabel can be, but something for garden. Какая нибудь безделушка ,чтоб придержать парник и так далее.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1258 on: May 07, 2013, 11:39:31 PM »
Is not cabel can be, but something for garden. Какая нибудь безделушка ,чтоб придержать парник и так далее.

Maybe, maybe not.
Может да, может нет.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1259 on: May 08, 2013, 01:00:30 AM »
   T-1000, Verpies, and All:
   I think that we really need to focus on what is making these devices work.  Let's just forget about the voltage source, inverter, and first rectifier, for now. As well as the feed back coil, cap, and second inverter. As these are not what is making this device produce an unconventional output. So, what is left? That is what we need to look into...
  All the self runners are using some kind of feed-back path to continue to run, that is the self runners mode of operation. But, that is not what causes the much higher output, from a very small input.
  On the SR 193 video the guy is showing something very interesting, not shown anywhere else. Which is, how the voltage on his power supply drops very fast, as the light bulb in the cardboard box is first lit up.  What this is indicating to me, is that, the output from the PS has dropped to 0 volts, 0 amps. Right? And he then disconnect it, and shorts the 4700 uF start cap. Then shows that small, silent spark gap.
Ok, so this is some proof that there is something unconventional going on here.  What is it??? That is the billion dollar question...
  You guys have been at this a LONG time, so, I'm requesting your help, as well as anyone else that is not chasing wild geese.
  My feeling is that  the center tapped primary coil with reversed polarity, be it on the yoke, or any other core, is part of the trick. Ferrite is NOT needed. Possibly even the primary being center tapped is not needed. As some are showing using the copper tube as the primary.
Possibly the 5 uF  AC run cap on the yoke circuit is acting as a spark gap, this I'm fairly sure of, there may also be needed a diode there, on that circuit. Then, what is happening at the big air coil? Everything there would be working as in normal inductance mode, even though the big secondary coil is going from the ground connection to the bulbs, that in itself is NOT a big eye opener. EXCEPT, for that choke and cap circuit in isolation, in the center of it with the aluminum sheeting, next to it.  Hendershot style.

Verpies,  come on, you can figure this out, It's not rocket science, a kid can and has done it.  So....
  Please help!