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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 10157366 times)

Offline MenofFather

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6360 on: November 03, 2014, 12:28:17 PM »
@ Itsu

Basicaly as I've understand there are two main frequencies:

1. Grenade natural freq must match kacher freq.
2. Series resonant circuitry = F grenade / 50. Push-pull driver must drive yoke on this freq.

PS. With 3 layer inductor, coil assembly look too bulky than what I see in all Ruslan's videos. I'm convinced Ruslan use just 2 layers (Tesla mode), and  18.5m for inductor is obvious not true, maybe 1/4 from grenade length, but not 1/2.
Ruslan use on inductor about 11 meters. He only to others recomendate use 18 meters.  :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6361 on: November 03, 2014, 12:53:01 PM »
Ruslan use on inductor about 11 meters. He only to others recomendate use 18 meters.  :)

Now we are in business !  8) 11meters may fit in 2 layers as can see in videos. Thanks for that.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6362 on: November 03, 2014, 01:35:01 PM »
Hi Jeg !

Yes in deed, a big pain in the ass ! But it may not be so big after all.

Itsu scanned his grenade with  inductor left free. Its (free coil, line) equivalent circuit is an LC parallel, which at resonance have big impedance, but big internal current which induce upon grenade. In schematic setup there are a 0.47uf or such in series with inductor which kill high frequency free oscillation of inductor, and force resonance of inductor to lower freq (34KHz let say) depending of external capacitor value which is much bigger than internal interturn capacitance. 
For finding final correct resonant freq of grenade, inductor must not left free oscillate, but short circuited (or put a 0.47uf or such across it) , and put to ground, thus you are free from its influence in scanning for grenade frequency.

It's also possible to have match free oscillating freq of grenade with free oscillating freq of inductor, and after that with kacher, and so on, then god help us if that is the case.

I hope I managed express my self correctly in this mater.
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6363 on: November 03, 2014, 01:51:17 PM »
Ruslan use on inductor about 11 meters. He only to others recomendate use 18 meters.  :)

11m he, could it be somewhat more,  like 12.5m as it would be 1/3 of the grenade wire length (37.5m)

This 12.5m will fit nicely as 2 layers.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6364 on: November 03, 2014, 02:05:40 PM »
11m he, could it be somewhat more,  like 12.5m as it would be 1/3 of the grenade wire length (37.5m)

This 12.5m will fit nicely as 2 layers.

Regards Itsu

I have a hunch that inductors length is not mater at all, even inductor itself is not so important across grenade, can be made separately, but please don't tell anyone, people do not like that, they get nervous if inductor haven't exactly 18.5m ;D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6365 on: November 03, 2014, 02:13:05 PM »
I have a hunch that inductors length is not mater at all, even inductor itself is not so important across grenade, can be made separately, but please don't tell anyone, people do not like that, they get nervous if inductor haven't exactly 18.5m ;D


In regards to wire length of grenade coil you need to see on what frequency Earth grounding responds best with different coils before doing calculations. The way to see what is happening is quite simple with frequency sweep generator powered by not grounded power source and test coil attached with one end to the generator and second end to ground. The current probe for spectrum analyzer/scope should be on the ground wire. Then trying different coils you might see on which frequency response is on same peaks and dividing that wavelength by 4 will be your grenade coil wire length.




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6366 on: November 03, 2014, 02:14:03 PM »
11m he, could it be somewhat more,  like 12.5m as it would be 1/3 of the grenade wire length (37.5m)

This 12.5m will fit nicely as 2 layers.

Regards Itsu

Itsu,

I agree, I have stripped off the top layer from my inductor and I have about 13m including connection tails. I looked very closely at all the available shots of Ruslans coil assembly and I'm sure there are only two layers. Also, why would a bifilar coil wound this way (stacked layers) logically have three layers.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6367 on: November 03, 2014, 02:29:27 PM »
Itsu,

I agree, I have stripped off the top layer from my inductor and I have about 13m including connection tails. I looked very closely at all the available shots of Ruslans coil assembly and I'm sure there are only two layers. Also, why would a bifilar coil wound this way (stacked layers) logically have three layers.

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Hoppy

The only reason for this bifilar coil to have 3 layers is to accommodate the 18.75m wire length on the available 9.5cm space.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6368 on: November 03, 2014, 03:10:14 PM »
Itsu you can look osciliograms acording this schematic http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/attachments/3866/ruslanschemapodkliuchenia.png
Diodes can use UF5408. You curent probe is not good because it have resistor on secondary windings. Need big permability feritte ring to get that pulses, not on all ferite rings, you get that pulses. I get that pulses, but I not have two chanel oscilioscope.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6369 on: November 03, 2014, 03:37:29 PM »
  There are no replications shown made using 18.75 meters for the inductor coil, none. Ruslan may just be guessing, without trying it out himself, nor showing it working as such.
 
   I just measured my 12,12 turn coil for my grenade inductor coil (12v set up), and it is was 16 foot, 5 inches long. I don't have a metric tape measure, I just provide this in measurement in feet, as a comparison. So, if anyone is interested they can just convert it to meters.

  11 meters sounds about right for the 24v systems, as a starting point.


  Itsu: Why not just remove one layer of the three on your inductor and try it again.

  Previously the primary yoke coil was only 6, 6 turns, for the 12v set up, and double that for the 24v system. That is where the magnetic induction is being produced from. If you don't get a 100 watt bulb to light brightly at this point, there may be something that needs to be further tuned, to continue on.

  All: This lasersaber video (below) shows the way he tunes his coils for maximum output. Please skip to minute 4.47, on.
  This may help some to obtain a higher output for any device, than just barely lighting a bulb or two, and hoping that the rest of the circuit will make up for it.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVXzGcyzu6o&list=UUIKzUKkh7XtnSYPW0AJb-9w

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6370 on: November 03, 2014, 03:54:28 PM »
Itsu you can look osciliograms acording this schematic http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/attachments/3866/ruslanschemapodkliuchenia.png
Diodes can use UF5408. You curent probe is not good because it have resistor on secondary windings. Need big permability feritte ring to get that pulses, not on all ferite rings, you get that pulses. I get that pulses, but I not have two chanel oscilioscope.

MenofFather,

my current probe is fine, it shows the real current through the line being measured.
I also tried (next to my current probe) with a ferrite ring with about 40 turns, and it showed the exact same current wave form (sine) as my current probe did.

If you only get this spiky current signal with a certain type of ferrite ring, then my guess would be that this special type of ferrite ring is being saturated and NOT presenting the real current in the line under test.   ;)

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6371 on: November 03, 2014, 03:57:38 PM »

In schematic setup there are a 0.47uf or such in series with inductor which kill high frequency free oscillation of inductor, and force resonance of inductor to lower freq (34KHz let say) depending of external capacitor value which is much bigger than internal interturn capacitance. 


This is a common mistake. Tuning inductor to a low KHz range through an external capacity, doesn't kill high frequency self oscillation at all. They are two completely different things which take place the same time.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6372 on: November 03, 2014, 03:58:17 PM »
  There are no replications shown made using 18.75 meters for the inductor coil, none.
Ruslan may just be guessing, without trying it out himself, nor showing it working as such.
 
   I just measured my 12,12 turn coil for my grenade inductor coil (12v set up), and it is was 16 foot, 5 inches long. I don't have a metric tape measure, I just provide this in measurement in feet, as a comparison. So, if anyone is interested they can just convert it to meters.

  11 meters sounds about right for the 24v systems.

  Itsu: Why not just remove one layer of the three on your inductor and try it again.

Hi Nick,

i will do that, sure,  but first need to verify yet another dozen or so variations   :o

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6373 on: November 03, 2014, 04:13:41 PM »

If you only get this spiky current signal with a certain type of ferrite ring, then my guess would be that this special type of ferrite ring is being saturated and NOT presenting the real current in the line under test.   ;)

Regards Itsu
Yes, I get that spikes, but not all ferites making this spikes. I use Ni-Zn ferite ring TSF28X0716.  28x7.5x16mm.[/size]

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6374 on: November 03, 2014, 04:28:02 PM »
  MenofFather:
  Of ALL the diagrams I've seen, I like yours the best. As I can understand it, clearly. And don't have to guess at just how the feed back loop is connected back to the input, or any other details.
  But, are YOU able to feed back the output through the power supply, to the input side. Have you tried to do this yet?
I have some questions about the 4 diodes (for the bridge) you used, as well.
Are you using the same type of power supply unit, as is Ruslan is using? Or not?
  This is the diagram that I'm referring to: