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Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6435 on: November 04, 2014, 03:08:08 PM »
Just want to clarify something. Any length of wire or coil will have standing waves on it when
fed with a AC signal. This is generally much easier to observe when dealing with frequencies in the high
kilohertz or megahertz. The difference between standing waves on a wire fed at some random frequency
and when it is fed at a frequency that the wire or coil is resonating at is that at resonant frequencies the
current and voltage nodes occur at very specific positions in the wire or coil. For example, at one quarter
wave resonance, one current node occurs at the feed point end of the wire, and one voltage node occurs
at the end of the wire (picture the first quarter of a sinewave). An example of this is a tesla coil running at quarter wave
resonance. The top of the tesla coil will have its voltage node at the top of the tesla coil, and if tuned exactly to one
quarter wave resonance, you will get maximum voltage right at the very top of your tesla coil at that frequency.
So any talk of trying to get a standing wave on the grenade coil doesn't make sense since your grenade coil will always
have standing waves on it at all frequencies applied to it. The only difference in driving at different frequencies is what
sort of specific standing wave pattern will result on your coils. So there is nothing unusual in itself in seeing a standing
wave on your coils, but the exact location of current nodes and voltage nodes varies depending on the frequency you
are operating at.

All the best...


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« Reply #6436 on: November 04, 2014, 03:59:47 PM »
Hoppy, Do I see some metal shielding there or did I have too many pints ??  ;)

Just apply some logic here. My cellphone's camera doesn't work in distance from 40-50 cm from the coil. Why?  .  Next- Ruslan was always pointing to the " clean" setup. He said if you will have some wires around you get nothing. Why?? Maybe because too much of induced voltage is going to your circuits?  Interference, over voltage... just name it.   Just my flow of thoughts.  ;)

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« Reply #6437 on: November 04, 2014, 04:07:01 PM »
  Hoppy:
  I'm using for the grenade former, a 1 1/2 inch pvc sink drain tube pipe (3.81 cm), as was shown by Ruslan.
  Kapandze's blue coil former looks like it may be even smaller than that.
I don't know why people are mentioning 50mm as the right size, as it doesn't appear to correspond to the images seen on the Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan videos.

  I think that it's possible that I may be blowing my fets when I disconnect the load, while the device is running, or when I start it with no load. As there is over 1000v generated by my device, and the fets can't seam to handle that high a surge, for over a couple of seconds.
  I ordered 10 more IRFP260N from China, which will take a few weeks to get here.

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« Reply #6438 on: November 04, 2014, 04:19:41 PM »
Hoppy, Do I see some metal shielding there or did I have too many pints ??  ;)

Just apply some logic here. My cellphone's camera doesn't work in distance from 40-50 cm from the coil. Why?  .  Next- Ruslan was always pointing to the " clean" setup. He said if you will have some wires around you get nothing. Why?? Maybe because too much of induced voltage is going to your circuits?  Interference, over voltage... just name it.   Just my flow of thoughts.  ;)

Cheers,

John,

Indeed you do in that particular shot. It looks like the metal base plate that's supplied in some electrical enclosures. However, if you look through his video collection where opened boxes are shown, I can see no other examples of shielded enclosures, so I don't think its that important.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6439 on: November 04, 2014, 04:31:37 PM »
Hoppy, Do I see some metal shielding there or did I have too many pints ??  ;)

Just apply some logic here. My cellphone's camera doesn't work in distance from 40-50 cm from the coil. Why?  .  Next- Ruslan was always pointing to the " clean" setup. He said if you will have some wires around you get nothing. Why?? Maybe because too much of induced voltage is going to your circuits?  Interference, over voltage... just name it.   Just my flow of thoughts.  ;)

Cheers,

hi John.K1,

I recall Ruslan mentioned somewhere about shielding for the circuit.Yes it looks like a shielding for the circuit.Please don't use cheap ceramics caps for frequency control if you are sticking with TL494 generator.
Try to use mylar polyester which i find produce better frequency stability.Best is still mica. ;)

I will be proceeding with circuit designing at the later stage once nanosecond high voltage produce some effect.Major part of my circuit board will be covered in copper GND(-) as part of design.


 

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« Reply #6440 on: November 04, 2014, 04:36:10 PM »
  Hoppy:
  I'm using for the grenade former, a 1 1/2 inch pvc sink drain tube pipe (3.81 cm), as was shown by Ruslan.
  Kapandze's blue coil former looks like it may be even smaller than that.
I don't know why people are mentioning 50mm as the right size, as it doesn't appear to correspond to the images seen on the Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan videos.

  I think that it's possible that I may be blowing my fets when I disconnect the load, while the device is running, or when I start it with no load. As there is over 1000v generated by my device, and the fets can't seam to handle that high a surge, for over a couple of seconds.
  I ordered 10 more IRFP260N from China, which will take a few weeks to get here.

Nick,

If you look at the attached shot of Ruslan's working coil tube and compare it with the adjacent self-adhesive plastic cable tie base, I make it 50mm. The tie bases I have are 23mm x 23mm, so using this as a rough scale, the tube looks at least twice the width of the cable tie base.

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« Reply #6441 on: November 04, 2014, 04:44:35 PM »
  I notice that both Akula and Ruslan were mounting their heat-sink fans so that they would also blow over the fets, as well. As that might be a better way to help keep them running cooler. Once several hundred, or several thousands of watts are being outputted, the fets can get very hot. We haven't seen or heard of a device that runs 24/7 for very long, although Ruslan mentioned he had one running for a month, or so.

  Hoppy: Ruslan was showing the sink drain tubes that he is using in another video, but I can't remember which video, at this time. 
   Drain tubes are 1 1/2 inches diameter, at least here where I live.  It may not  be a big deal. But, just compare the diameter of the Ruslan pvc pipe image to his thumb... What does it looks like to you? Looks like 1 1/2 inches, to me.
In an case, I do what I see with my eyes, not what I hear. As most crt diagrams may not be totally correct.

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« Reply #6442 on: November 04, 2014, 05:15:13 PM »
  I notice that both Akula and Ruslan were mounting their heat-sink fans so that they would also blow over the fets, as well. As that might be a better way to help keep them running cooler. Once several hundred, or several thousands of watts are being outputted, the fets can get very hot. We haven't seen or heard of a device that runs 24/7 for very long, although Ruslan mentioned he had one running for a month, or so.

  Hoppy: Ruslan was showing the sink drain tubes that he is using in another video, but I can't remember which video, at this time. 
   Drain tubes are 1 1/2 inches diameter, at least here where I live.  It may not  be a big deal. But, just compare the diameter of the Ruslan pvc pipe image to his thumb... What does it looks like to you? Looks like 1 1/2 inches, to me.
In an case, I do what I see with my eyes, not what I hear. As most crt diagrams may not be totally correct.

Yes Nick, you may be right there but how long is his thumb.  ;) Your comment about the circuit diagrams is a gem!  ;D

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« Reply #6443 on: November 04, 2014, 05:16:56 PM »
Void and Magpwr,

I used the setup as requested by MenofFather here:
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg422138/#msg422138

He mentioned that it would be better to use a standalone 11m bifilar coil:
So i used a standalone, 11m wire, Tesla bifilar, (2 layers) coil on a bare 5cm OD tube.
It was connected to my 3 turn secondary on my yoke (which also has the 28 turn secondary and the 2x 6 turn primary) via a 0.47uF series capacitor.
Sweep signal was injected from my FG via an extra loosly coupled 2 turn wire around the yoke.

I did have a (very small amplitude) resonance peak around 25KHz, but its not visible in the sweep picture, but
i guess thats the resonance peak created by the series LC of this 11m coil and the 0,47uF cap.

But the main peak was on 7MHz, which is strange in my eyes as i swepped this same coil before and it showed a single
resonance point of 2MHz, see here:
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg421340/#msg421340

I did not have it connected to anything else then my scope probe points then (unloaded).

Regards itsu

hi itsu,

This my findings if you noticed no part of the kapanadze device is based on L/C resonance it's base on resonance of multilayer coil and use of related harmonics.
The closest to L/C is the 0.47uf x 2 + 2 smaller caps as used by Ruslan against eg:124.5uH for my case.The L/C resonance as mentioned by me was 13khz for Ruslan and my previous actual version is at 14.44khz which we will need to run at 2x 13khz =26khz estimate for Ruslan.

The 1uf as used in my previous experiment was just my basic test. Ruslan device as mentioned by me is using around 1.2uf estimate for a reason. Ruslan did mentioned somewhere in Russian forum to use at least 2 x 0.47uf.Please search for it but he explanation is way too short.

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This will be my next upcoming plan-

After your findings to obtain optimal resonance frequency  i gonna start do this backwards on my free time by taking example frequency say 7Mhz then divide by 4(This will be the kacher frequency).Then use 60th sub-harmonics to obtain the frequency(which will be automatically provided by my pwm generator at around 47% duty) again divide by 2 again to find out the suitable capacitor to use which will be around 1uf to be connected to 3 turns in series with 25 turns bifilar.For the 1/2 wave.
 
No direct L/C applied here.

All the points from kacher to pwm generator(60th sub-harmonics),kacher to multilayer coil at over 25 turns bifilar(To obtain kacher frequency eg:7Mhz div by 4) which will all be inter-connected via "Harmonics" mathematics.
Only the capacitor value selection is base on 1/2 wave as mentioned above.

That's how deep i'd believe i need to go. :D
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« Reply #6444 on: November 04, 2014, 06:00:07 PM »
@itsu,

The 7Mhz resonance looks about right as a 1/4 wave would place it at 1.75Mhz approx. This is the Kacher freq correct? or there about.

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« Reply #6445 on: November 04, 2014, 06:50:14 PM »
  Although it may not be a big deal, but the 1 1/2 inch pvc water pipe inner diameter is 1 1/2 in. And, it will fit over the 1 1/2 pvc drain tube pipe. As the drain pipe is 1 1/2 outer diameter.
That is how I have mine set up, one pipe fitting over the other one, as I thought that the distance between the grenade from the Kacher should be adjustable, as well. But now, looks like that may not be of much concern. Or, it may ....
 On the Ruslan's brown wire coil grenade images, he is using water pipe.
But, newer versions are using the thinner 3.81 cm drain tube pipe.
  5cm pvc pipe = 1 31/32 inches ( 2 inches, mas o menos). I don't see Akula /Ruslan replications using 2 inch pipe, and less so for TK's blue coil.
  This may be important as when the difference in pipe diameter is multiplied by the amount of turns, it may cause some differences in the effect generation.

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« Reply #6446 on: November 04, 2014, 06:54:04 PM »
For those who find it interesting:

As I am still waiting for my parts to build Push-Pull I just mess a little bit with the lamp connected to the 6th output of the grenade coil and the second lead free.  When I touch the free end of the wire the light goes up. When I touch the insulated wire between the lamp and the coil- the light goes down.  In my case , with the lamp connected the frequency drops by 80KHz!!.  I thought if I touch the free end and the light goes up it might be good idea to test some antenna. Well, I made an antenna from naked 10m of 0.25 brass wire at around 2m above ground. That 10 m totally messed the frequency alternating between 300Hz to 700Hz and of course no light.
Next test - as somebody mentioned it here- the flame test.  No presence of ions detected.  They are probably here but in such a small amount we do not need to speak about it. In fact I do not smell any ionized air. So by my mean the major working mechanism here will be RF.
Cheers,

Nick, said by Russlan any pipe D40-50 will do fine.

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« Reply #6447 on: November 04, 2014, 07:32:04 PM »
  In looking at this Ruslan video of his most recent Akula replication made a week ago, or so. It looks like the HV spark jumping to his screw driver point from the ferrite tuning rod is only 2 to 3 mm, and does not "stream" at all.  So, I doubt that it is over 2kv, nor giving very intense RF burns.
  It can be a violet/purple plasma flame, (not Aether), ionizing the surrounding air at the end of the antenna coil. This may not normally be visible in our case, nor be strong enough to effect a candle flame, as such. I use a neon bulb to test for this effect, or gutted CFL bulbs.
   Remember that SR 193 mentioning that his SG spark is silent, and does NOT need to be strong, to do what it does.

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« Reply #6448 on: November 04, 2014, 07:50:57 PM »
   John:
   Thanks for the info about the 40 to 50mm tube mentioned by Ruslan.
   Check this video below, made a week ago. Notice how his light bulbs dim somewhat when he adds the 4th bulb. I don't think that his bulbs are anywhere close having full brightness. Or the whole room would be lit up.
But, free light, is still free, even if not the same as when connected to the grid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0OWVFIDPf4

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« Reply #6449 on: November 04, 2014, 09:04:57 PM »
You not need use curent probe. You need mount on inductor wire, going to 3 turns on yoke, ferite ring like in my video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqcigiQcyPQ) with wounded 6-12 turns and to that turns conect oscilioscope.
And if you can please scan multilayer coil with conected to it 100 omh resistor (or if not have, then any, that you have 10-5000 omh) and without that resistor.
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Ok,  done that test, but with a 100 Ohm resistor parallel across the multilayer coil (not sure you meant that or that the 100 Ohm resistor needed to be in series with the scope probe tip, which in that case made no difference)

See screenshot,

white trace:  NO resistor parallel across the multilayer coil (no difference with or without the resistor in series with the scope probe tip),
yellow trace: resistor parallel across the multilayer coil (see the much lower amplitude / almost no strong peaks).

Regards Itsu