Also User Mopozco has made a video about it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG3zeNvDEZU

The video of Mopozco answered a lot of my questions. It is very important to note, that the shape of the magnets is not relevant. The coils can be parallel or in series as Mopozco states in his video. Nothing is better than a few experiments.

Greetings, Conrad

Hi folks, I think we have two possibilities here, the control freaks are still running around bullying people who display devices that are running in a unique way and would explain larsko's change of story from detailed report to prank.
Or we have the same old mind psyops campaign to simply create doubt in any of this being possible, to many people on these forums and elsewhere are making pranks and hoaxes for this not to be obvious to everyone.
There is no motive I can see for making hoaxes and pranks, unless one is either being bullied to do so, or is somehow deriving benefit from such actions.
Everything in this world in regard to human affairs is meticulously designed to be exactly the way it is, only a relatively few bad apples are spoiling the barrel in this world.
Human nature is one of truth, peace, joy, love and abundance.
These few manipulators and the unseen ones as well, will never convince me otherwise, no matter how many tricks and illusions they pull.
Robert Adams made a self runner with something right along the lines of this design, so don't let them jade you folks.
peace love light once and forever

Hi All,

Won't say it won't, won't say it will.  Mine is crude to the point of tears but has given me a heck of a lot of information.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of_eAEhCwwY&feature=g-upl&context=G20c16d6AUAAAAAAAAAA

Ben K4ZPE
The worlds smallest lab.

Hi All,

Won't say it won't, won't say it will.  Mine is crude to the point of tears but has given me a heck of a lot of information.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of_eAEhCwwY&feature=g-upl&context=G20c16d6AUAAAAAAAAAA

Ben K4ZPE
The worlds smallest lab.

Just wondering what sort of behaviour you'd get if you used air core coils. ?

Cheers

A lot weaker coupling and output.  To really understand what is going on.  I'm going to have to monitor current and not just voltage.  Current lags in the motor coils.....
I'm just getting started here.....hard to overcome that emf and utilize it!

Ben K4ZEP

Yes, I would expect a much weaker coupling, but with no core drag or core attraction to offset the weaker coupling, results may be significantly different.
Just a thought.

Cheers

@ hoptoad and k4zep:

I kind of like air core coils. A core (iron, ferrite) introduces a lot of difficult to control material parameters and the wave forms produced by the coil become strange (spiky and deviate from the ideal sinus).

It is not very related to this motor, but playing with Joule Thieves I learned to appreciate air core coils. Just by adding or removing windings one can easily fine tune.

It is impossible to change the material characteristics of toroids or any other type of core. Specially when experimenting at home the options are very limited when using ferrite or iron cores. Chances are very high one is using the wrong type of core which dampens sutler effects. The famous people building pulse motors in the past were endlessly searching for suitable cores and went to extreams mixing their own materials, which can only be done in a very good chemistry lab and by help of computer calculations and simulations.

Air cores need more wire windings but one has complete control over the shape and size of the coil which can be wound around a cardboard or plastic tube which are very easy to build or can be found easily.

The high inductance ferrites allow for very small coils, but size is not such a big problem when experimenting. Once a new principle has been found with air core coils (and their pure sinus wave forms), material scientists can determine just the right mixture for a suitable ferrite in order to make everything smaller.

Just some thoughts, greetings, Conrad

Hi Conrad and Hoptoad,

Everything you guys say is right on.  As simple as it looks there is a beast here to tame!  The contra EMF is a problem,
got to think on phasing here.  Right now I don't see how the unipolar concept can work.  The generator action is X amount of braking and unless I can get the magneto or open contact burst more while cancelling out the core, it is a problem!  So will be messing today, hope my mumetal comes in......

Without building one of these no matter how simple, it will never be figured out.......Did either of these devices come
out on April 1st?

Ben K4ZEP

Here is code for the Falstad sim. 

If you right click the background of the circuit screen, select/drag option will allow you to exchange the batteries to see what Im saying. The circuit works in both situations.

The first battery in the circuit when you import the code is Larskos first circuit.
The battery to the right not in the circuit is his second version. I made the batteries 1.2v for rechargeable.

Why would he change it if it works either way? Of course the polarity of the fields would change also. So is it N or S now?

The only other differences would be that the first circuit does produce true BEMF(Reverse Electro Motive Force) and charges back to the battery, but the second version only produces normal collapse current, just more continued forward emf, like in switching power supplies, and only drains the battery.


If the scope shots for both batteries do not show in the import, just right click the batteries and select scope.  Then right click the scope shot and select Show Power Consumed  and Show Negative Peak Value.

Sometimes the scope shots dont always arrive in the code. 

http://falstad.com/circuit/

$ 1 4.9999999999999996E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 50
l 304 128 304 176 0 1.0 -1.291725244562808E-20
r 304 256 304 304 0 5.0
v 304 176 304 256 0 0 40.0 1.2 0.0 0.0 0.5
w 304 128 208 128 0
w 304 304 208 304 0
s 208 128 208 304 0 1 true
w 304 128 384 144 0
v 544 272 544 192 0 0 40.0 1.2 0.0 0.0 0.5
w 384 288 304 304 0
162 384 144 384 288 1 2.1024259 1.0 0.0 0.0
o 2 64 1 291 7.62939453125E-5 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 7 64 1 291 7.62939453125E-5 9.765625E-5 1 -1


Now, which circuit would you rather build? The power sucker(Larskos last circuit presentation) or the first one?  ;]

I just dont get what is going on with that guy.   The first one works.  Some out there may be looking at the circuit and assuming actual BEMF isnt occurring so the led couldnt possibly be lighting. But it does either way. So maybe Larsko looked at it that way also. But he built the thing. He knows the polarity of the battery. He could have just as well on the second circuit just reversed the led's and gotten a good result.

I think the sim circuit shows it quite clearly.

Like I said, something is weird  here as to what is really going on. Larsko has produced a lot of vids, he knows what he is doing.

Mags

At 1:54, he holds up the AA battery. The coil assembly does not look tall enough to contain an AA battery.

http://youtu.be/n93iIduG01I

Hi Ben,
nice to see you back experimenting.

What would happen, if you used IRON wire for the coils ?
Then the magnets would be attracted to the coils on its own
attraction and generate already induction which you could store via a diode in
a cap and when the magnets will be Top Dead Center you could
use the stored cap energy to pulse some additional copper coils around the iron coils
to get the magnets to escape from the iron wire attraction.

I guess it will only work something like this, if at all...


Regards, Stefan.